Demographics are destiny

[DamagedAndDull]

You are high (hopefully). The author of that article is conservative and he never says Dems will yield on immigration. Dems will not yield. No idea where you saw that legal immigration is down, last year was the 2nd highest in the past 10 years.

You mean when Republicans controlled both houses including the HOR since 2010? Funny how mass amnesties have only happened under Republican admins while the closest for Dems is DACA. Also legal immigrants are a drop in the bucket. Illegal immigration peaked in like the 90s over legal ones then.

[redmelly]

Our destiny is a single race. It is inevitable unless our species becomes extinct first.

Not going to happen. Humans are tribal in nature and like to stick with their own kind. That includes all races. LMAO that people think whites are the racist ones when there is plenty of racism to go around. As if everyone would just embrace one another if whites suddenly vanished. Lol. No.

I'll tell you my experience in a white minority country in the DR (73% mixed race (mulatto and mestizo), 16% white, and 11% black). The whites had all the money and a greater amount of respect and the mulattos were terribly racist toward the blacks. The blacks had the worst jobs (housekeeping, domestic help).

Can you think of anywhere that has a white minority and the whites were considered a lower social class? I can't.

It's not right but that's how it is, at least from what I've seen in my life and travels.

[thorpowers]

you sound scared Bud... have more Kids if its an issue & stop Mixing races, also Asian are a growing Minority too, so don't Blame other people for your own ****-ups

My own **** ups? I have nothing to do with this, im just citing statistics and demographic analysis.

America is and will always be a melting Pot country. that's why it's the Best country in the world

Thats a cute revisionist lie liberals like to say. History says otherwise...it won't be the best country in the world when the demographics shifts to mirror a hispanic countries. You replace a country with a population of low IQ migrants and the country becomes that. Diversity is a weakness, America has been resting on the laurels of its ancestors, which is ever fleeting

[wesleysh21]

You mean when Republicans controlled both houses including the HOR since 2010? Funny how mass amnesties have only happened under Republican admins while the closest for Dems is DACA.

Dems don’t want to actually get a DACA deal done, they just want to run on it. Why give away the cure if you can keep selling medicine?

[mr.left hook]

Don't forget to bring snacks.


You're in Montana?




But if you start a war with Liberals who will work and pay taxes so you can live in luxury in your 2 bedroom/1 bathroom trailer park?

WoW, I guess those are the states where all the Illegals stay

[DamagedAndDull]

Dems don’t want to actually get a DACA deal done, they just want to run on it. Why give away the cure if you can keep selling medicine?

Neither does Trump seeing as he could have just repealed it on his own last year. The Republican Congress didn't do anything about it and now the courts have froze it.

[FIREnICE]

Meh, good chance I'll be dead by then, in which case I'll likely be voting democrap.

underrated post

[thorpowers]

Not going to happen. Humans are tribal in nature and like to stick with their own kind. That includes all races. LMAO that people think whites are the racist ones when there is plenty of racism to go around. As if everyone would just embrace one another if whites suddenly vanished. Lol. No.

I'll tell you my experience in a white minority country in the DR (73% mixed race (mulatto and mestizo), 16% white, and 11% black). The whites had all the money and a greater amount of respect and the mulattos were terribly racist toward the blacks. The blacks had the worst jobs (housekeeping, domestic help).

Can you think of anywhere that has a white minority and the whites were considered a lower social class? I can't.

It's not right but that's how it is, at least from what I've seen in my life and travels.

This.

Go to any public school, prison, church, or neighborhood and observe it yourself. Humans innately stick to their own kind, its natural and instinctive. This isn't even controversial to any other race they will openly acknowledge this obvious fact. Only white people have been socially conditioned to the point of being terrified to be called 'racissss' and are filled with guilt. When forced together there is almost always conflict. History is replete with said conflict. A country may be successful in spite of some diversity, but it is never a strength.

Edit: South Africa the white minority, the white minority that built the country where there was none before, is an example of whites being treated as a lower social class. Whites are blamed for everything there, and being stripped of property, rights, and even life. White guilt and extreme altruism that borders on cuck behavior after WW2 is their greatest weakness.

[anonymous]

We need to send ICE task force to every city and deport the 30 million illegals, build the wall, and bring the legal immigration rate down to 0%. This will at least slow the decline down and give us time

If Israel and Japan can do it, then we should be able to. Probably too little too late though even if we did all that this year, which I don't see any of it happening now that the democrats won the house.

Can't happen now, the reCucks spent the last 2 years preventing Trump from doing anything and now it's too late

America will be a miserable high tax, low freedom chit hole like Europe in 20 years at absolute most now, and the poverty useful idiots voting for "free" will ironically suffer the most.

[brighamw]

I love that racists don’t even hide being racist anymore.

Who tf cares? Lol at you in the 1870s. “All these Italians coming into our great land. Soon everyone’s name will end with a vowel! Disgusting!”

Okay Mr. Sterling...

[89FoxBody]

[Fishman15]

I love that racists don’t even hide being racist anymore.

Who tf cares? Lol at you in the 1870s. “All these Italians coming into our great land. Soon everyone’s name will end with a vowel! Disgusting!”

What...are you some kind of vowelist?

[EctoCanuck]

1/2 the country pays no taxes. Are you trying to tell me they are republicans?

You know there are a hundred different taxes right?There's property tax on your trailer park.Taxes on those Virginia Slims cigarettes you smoke.There's even tax on the corn dogs and Mountain Dew you had for breakfast.

[CalmWind]

Guys....

it ain't about demographics... or where they come from


It's about integration. It's about illegal immigration. Illegals are adults who have decided to break the law... they are of low moral character and a lot of them will not integrate themselves into American society, so they or their first generation children never become real Americans. They don't understand what it means to be an American, or our ideals, or traditions.

It doesn't matter if someone is from Mexico, or Germany.... what matters is that they come here legally and are of high moral character, and that they integrate themselves. They learn our traditions, they learn what it means to be one of us... so that they become Americans.


Truly, someone's race or origin does not matter.

What matters is that every single Immigrant who comes into this land, takes the time to learn what it means to be one of us, and then BECOMES one of us. After that, it doesn't matter where they're from. You will have Mexican Democrats and Mexican Republicans, etc...




We need INTEGRATION.

[Fishman15]

You know there are a hundred different taxes right?There's property tax on your trailer park.Taxes on those Virginia Slims cigarettes you smoke.There's even tax on the corn dogs and Mountain Dew you had for breakfast.

You know what I mean. Don't be stupid...

[redmelly]

Guys....

it ain't about demographics... or where they come from


It's about integration. It's about illegal immigration. Illegals are adults who have decided to break the law... they are of low moral character and a lot of them will not integrate themselves into American society, so they or their first generation children never become real Americans. They don't understand what it means to be an American, or our ideals, or traditions.

It doesn't matter if someone is from Mexico, or Germany.... what matters is that they come here legally and are of high moral character, and that they integrate themselves. They learn our traditions, they learn what it means to be one of us... so that they become Americans.


Truly, someone's race or origin does not matter.

What matters is that every single Immigrant who comes into this land, takes the time to learn what it means to be one of us, and then BECOMES one of us. After that, it doesn't matter where they're from. You will have Mexican Democrats and Mexican Republicans, etc...




We need INTEGRATION.

Demographics does matter for people who want a conservative government and vote republican. All it takes is for Texas to go D then we will not have another R president again.

[thorpowers]

Guys....

it ain't about demographics... or where they come from


It's about integration. It's about illegal immigration. Illegals are adults who have decided to break the law... they are of low moral character and a lot of them will not integrate themselves into American society, so they or their first generation children never become real Americans. They don't understand what it means to be an American, or our ideals, or traditions.

It doesn't matter if someone is from Mexico, or Germany.... what matters is that they come here legally and are of high moral character, and that they integrate themselves. They learn our traditions, they learn what it means to be one of us... so that they become Americans.


Truly, someone's race or origin does not matter.

What matters is that every single Immigrant who comes into this land, takes the time to learn what it means to be one of us, and then BECOMES one of us. After that, it doesn't matter where they're from. You will have Mexican Democrats and Mexican Republicans, etc...




We need INTEGRATION.

I used to believe that, I want to believe that because it feels better, but it's just not the truth. Hispanics that have been in America for generations still vote the same 70% democrat, and blacks have voted 90% democrat with no change no matter how many generations pass. Tribalism is instinctual , and even with extreme social conditioning and indoctrination like what was done to white people, they still remain tribal. Whites won't openly admit they are tribal, like other races will that have not been subjected to the same socially conditioning to be guilty of who they are, and because they are terrified of being called racist; but they don't have to say it, their actions show they are tribal. Whites will move away when an area becomes too 'culturally enriched'. Churches are one race, neighborhoods are one race because when left to their own devices people act upon their subconcious (tribal) primal instincts. Sorry observable reality isn't a Disney movie, im trying to be unbiased, remove my feelings and just observe how humans behave objectively

The exception is Cubans. Cuban migrants in the US vote majority Republican. But Cubans are almost entirely Spanish, and just experienced communism first hand. Cubans actually shift the Hispanic vote in Florida to 40%+ Republican instead of the typical 30% in most other states.

[89FoxBody]

I used to believe that, I want to believe that because it feels better, but it's just not the truth. Hispanics that have been in America for generations still vote the same 70% democrat, and blacks have voted 90% democrat with no change. Tribalism is instinctual , and even with extreme social conditioning and indoctrination like what was done to white people, they still remain tribal. Whites won't openly admit they are tribal, like other races will that have not been subjected to the same socially conditioning to be guilty of who they are, and because they are terrified of being called racist; but they don't have to say it, their actions show they are tribal. Whites will move away when an area becomes too 'culturally enriched'. Churches are one race, neighborhoods are one race because when left to their own devices people act upon their subconcious innate primal instincts. Sorry observable reality isn't a Disney movie, im trying to be unbiased, remove my feelings and just observe how humans behave objectively

Whites are the only group that are scolded for tribalism and the only ones constantly accused of it.

[CalmWind]

I used to believe that, I want to believe that because it feels better, but it's just not the truth. Hispanics that have been in America for generations still vote the same 70% democrat, and blacks have voted 90% democrat with no change no matter how many generations pass. Tribalism is instinctual , and even with extreme social conditioning and indoctrination like what was done to white people, they still remain tribal. Whites won't openly admit they are tribal, like other races will that have not been subjected to the same socially conditioning to be guilty of who they are, and because they are terrified of being called racist; but they don't have to say it, their actions show they are tribal. Whites will move away when an area becomes too 'culturally enriched'. Churches are one race, neighborhoods are one race because when left to their own devices people act upon their subconcious (tribal) primal instincts. Sorry observable reality isn't a Disney movie, im trying to be unbiased, remove my feelings and just observe how humans behave objectively

Okay, can you show me where those statistics show that Hispanics who have been here for several generations for 70% democrat?


Because it doesn't make sense to me that race = political disposition. In theory, you should be able to have hispanics on all sides of the spectrum, just like whites are on both sides of the spectrum.


IMO, it seems to me that the issue is lack of education and integration.

The majority of the hispanics who illegally entered this country are from Mexico.... they probably make up the bulk of that 70% stat you referenced.... and those Mexicans were poor peasants with very little education. You can hardly expect them to understand a single thing about world politics, much less American politics and tradition. And this results in a failure to educate their children...

[Sweetums6000]

According to game theory, as long as there are only two parties with a credible chance to win, their party positions will split conservative and liberal in all of the issues that are close to 50-50 divided. Therefore, if the whole country moves left as a result of immigration of leftists, then the GOP will respond by dumping conservative issues that are no longer near the 50-50 split in the country and moving left to match the country. But there will always be two parties split nearly 50-50 because that is a long-term equilibrium.

That only works if politicians act in the interest of their national parties. But politicians act in their own self-interest, according to their states or districts.

And most states and districts are lopsided enough that most politicians (at the federal level at least) are more in danger of losing a primary than a general election. So I think the two parties are likely to continue moving further apart.

It appears to me that the Republican Party is in the midst of a positive feedback loop, in which they are becoming more conservative as they shed moderates, and appeal less to moderates as they become more conservative, eventually leading to a small but entrenched group of true believers. The flip side is that the population gap between the big states and small states continues to grow, and since the electoral college weights states by population and the Senate does not, I think we could be heading towards a permanent democratic majority in the electoral college, and a permanent republican majority in the Senate, with increasingly little common ground on which to compromise, creating endless gridlock.

The only solution I see is to implement ranked choice voting to give third parties a chance.

[thorpowers]

Okay, can you show me where those statistics show that Hispanics who have been here for several generations for 70% democrat?


Because it doesn't make sense to me that race = political disposition. In theory, you should be able to have hispanics on all sides of the spectrum, just like whites are on both sides of the spectrum.


IMO, it seems to me that the issue is lack of education and integration.

The majority of the hispanics who illegally entered this country are from Mexico.... they probably make up the bulk of that 70% stat you referenced.... and those Mexicans were poor peasants with very little education. You can hardly expect them to understand a single thing about world politics, much less American politics and tradition. And this results in a failure to educate their children...

Well hispanics started migrating here in real numbers starting in the mid 1960's. So there have been 3-4 generations of hispanics here in the US now, and if you look at their voting record it is always ~30% Republican, ~70% Democrat +/- ~5%. The exception to this are Cubans. Redmelly posted the stats from the 2016 election, but you can look back to all previous elections and see the same exact trend for all races. Whites are the only true swing voters that will shift in mass. In Pew Research polls when polled on things like gun rights, free market economics, ect they will support big government. I don't know why, but that's just the data and it hasn't changed since 1960's when they started coming here.

My grandfather was Mexican btw and he did legally immigrate, then integrate and assimilate, but that is an anecdote. It just doesn't reflect the statistically averages.

[CalmWind]

Well hispanics started migrating here in real numbers starting in the mid 1960's. So there have been 3-4 generations of hispanics here in the US now, and if you look at their voting record it is always ~30% Republican, ~70% Democrat +/- ~5%. The exception to this are Cubans. Redmelly posted the stats from the 2016 election, but you can look back to all previous elections and see the same exact trend for all races. Whites are the only true swing voters that will shift in mass. In Pew Research polls when polled on things like gun rights, free market economics, ect they will support big government. I don't know why, but that's just the data and it hasn't changed since 1960's when they started coming here.

Okay I trust your numbers, but

if a poor Mexican peasant with little to no education enters this country.... and raises kids. Those parents have no clue on what it means to be an American, they aren't integrated, most of them don't even learn how to speak english.

So they raise their kid, in a spanish speaking house... the kid goes to public school in America, learns english, but still, does NOT receive proper parenting. So the kid is now a first generation Mexican American, but was never taught what it means to be an american, and comes from a spanish speaking household from peasant working class parents.


People don't magically learn how to be an American unless they spend the time on their own to educate themselves, OR their parents teach them. Unfortunately, these mexican americans don't have the parenting.... and since the average person on planet earth has an IQ of about 90..... these 1st and 2nd and 3rd gen mexican americans won't ever learn how to REALLY integrate. Very few will be smart enough to educate themselves on their own.


I think this is the problem. Illegal immigration.

[iabs]

According to game theory, as long as there are only two parties with a credible chance to win, their party positions will split conservative and liberal in all of the issues that are close to 50-50 divided. Therefore, if the whole country moves left as a result of immigration of leftists, then the GOP will respond by dumping conservative issues that are no longer near the 50-50 split in the country and moving left to match the country. But there will always be two parties split nearly 50-50 because that is a long-term equilibrium.

So you end up with a communist running against a socialist and one of them is the "conservative."

lol this.

hey, it's called "progress"..

[thorpowers]

Okay I trust your numbers, but

if a poor Mexican peasant with little to no education enters this country.... and raises kids. Those parents have no clue on what it means to be an American, they aren't integrated, most of them don't even learn how to speak english.

So they raise their kid, in a spanish speaking house... the kid goes to public school in America, learns english, but still, does NOT receive proper parenting. So the kid is now a first generation Mexican American, but was never taught what it means to be an american, and comes from a spanish speaking household from peasant working class parents.


People don't magically learn how to be an American unless they spend the time on their own to educate themselves, OR their parents teach them. Unfortunately, these mexican americans don't have the parenting.... and since the average person on planet earth has an IQ of about 90..... these 1st and 2nd and 3rd gen mexican americans won't ever learn how to REALLY integrate. Very few will be smart enough to educate themselves on their own.


I think this is the problem. Illegal immigration.

Yea I think we are in agreement. Don't disagree with anything you wrote

[Skythes]

Guys....

it ain't about demographics... or where they come from


It's about integration. It's about illegal immigration. Illegals are adults who have decided to break the law... they are of low moral character and a lot of them will not integrate themselves into American society, so they or their first generation children never become real Americans. They don't understand what it means to be an American, or our ideals, or traditions.

It doesn't matter if someone is from Mexico, or Germany.... what matters is that they come here legally and are of high moral character, and that they integrate themselves. They learn our traditions, they learn what it means to be one of us... so that they become Americans.


Truly, someone's race or origin does not matter.

What matters is that every single Immigrant who comes into this land, takes the time to learn what it means to be one of us, and then BECOMES one of us. After that, it doesn't matter where they're from. You will have Mexican Democrats and Mexican Republicans, etc...

We need INTEGRATION.

Yes in theory, but the reality is that immigration is happening at a such a high rate that this sort of integration simply isn't feasible. Mark my words - its already over, just compare the younger age groups. Real "conservatism" is dead and buried because it caters to a declining demographic segment (older established white people), only reactionary extremism will be an effective alternative now vs parties that cater to the new "diverse" America.

The funny thing is that far left wingers and immigrants think they are "winning" when they are plainly being used by the same elites that have been crushing us forever, happily handing them over more power which will make muh resistance truly futile in the future. Although far lefties do thrive in cultish ultra conformist environments so maybe it will work for them in the end. LMAO

[easydoesit42]

Guys....

it ain't about demographics... or where they come from


It's about integration. It's about illegal immigration. Illegals are adults who have decided to break the law... they are of low moral character and a lot of them will not integrate themselves into American society, so they or their first generation children never become real Americans. They don't understand what it means to be an American, or our ideals, or traditions.

It doesn't matter if someone is from Mexico, or Germany.... what matters is that they come here legally and are of high moral character, and that they integrate themselves. They learn our traditions, they learn what it means to be one of us... so that they become Americans.


Truly, someone's race or origin does not matter.

What matters is that every single Immigrant who comes into this land, takes the time to learn what it means to be one of us, and then BECOMES one of us. After that, it doesn't matter where they're from. You will have Mexican Democrats and Mexican Republicans, etc...




We need INTEGRATION.

That’s all great and all but this ain’t happening when whites become a minority in America. This type of co existence and level of mutual respect between races can only exist when there is the white in the middle drawing the line of what is what and who is who. Non whites are pouring into the country at a pace that ‘’’integration’’’ doesn’t even matter when the whites white flight and the others create their own ethnic enclaves.

And this is all if you “want” integration in the first place. Multiculturalism falls out to the dominant culture/ethnic majority in the end. Hoping for This wonderful rainbow land is akin to believing communism can work in reality. Keep dreaming.

[cashinout]

Okay I trust your numbers, but

if a poor Mexican peasant with little to no education enters this country.... and raises kids. Those parents have no clue on what it means to be an American, they aren't integrated, most of them don't even learn how to speak english.

So they raise their kid, in a spanish speaking house... the kid goes to public school in America, learns english, but still, does NOT receive proper parenting. So the kid is now a first generation Mexican American, but was never taught what it means to be an american, and comes from a spanish speaking household from peasant working class parents.


People don't magically learn how to be an American unless they spend the time on their own to educate themselves, OR their parents teach them. Unfortunately, these mexican americans don't have the parenting.... and since the average person on planet earth has an IQ of about 90..... these 1st and 2nd and 3rd gen mexican americans won't ever learn how to REALLY integrate. Very few will be smart enough to educate themselves on their own.


I think this is the problem. Illegal immigration.

don't forget that our public education systems are being run by communists

[Merovingian11]

ban demographics, pablum solved.

[CalmWind]

That’s all great and all but this ain’t happening when whites become a minority in America. This type of co existence and level of mutual respect between races can only exist when there is the white in the middle drawing the line of what is what and who is who. Non whites are pouring into the country at a pace that ‘’’integration’’’ doesn’t even matter when the whites white flight and the others create their own ethnic enclaves.

And this is all if you “want” integration in the first place. Multiculturalism falls out to the dominant culture/ethnic majority in the end. Hoping for This wonderful rainbow land is akin to believing communism can work in reality. Keep dreaming.

Multi-culturalism and Mutli-racial is not the same thing.

I was talking about having a multi racial, BUT uni-cultural society, of which everyone is integrated into being an American. So we would only have -1- culture, the American culture.


You equated that with multi culturalism, something I never advocated for.

don't forget that our public education systems are being run by communists

And this is a problem too.. how will we integrate new immigrants, when our public education system is failing them?

[adimare]

Even if it's true that we're inherently tribalistic and will always vote in block, what makes you think that hispanics and blacks will always vote democrat? Can't they be swayed to vote republican in block? Also, if this tribalistic nature is inescapable, how do you explain the fact that hispanics vote democrat 70/30, but blacks vote 90/10? Is one race less tribalistic than the other? How come the same party doesn't always win in more racially homogenous countries?

Couldn't it simply be that they vote for the party they believe will benefit them the most?