Driven Sports CRZ (DA OH GEE) PROFILE

[put5onyo]

What's up ya chicken mcnugget heads?

In for OG CRZ ' breakthrough bodybuilding.com supplement of the year' of 2019. Just like Craze was in 2012.

6 scuepes maik u happee?

[neuron]

So you agree the original Craze had nothing illegal?

We are in agreement then.

o rlly?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25792717
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25792717

[Sldge]

I love how many of the people in this chat are formulators themselves and yet there has been no legit great pre-workout on the market since 2011-12. Back in the day there was Craze, Jack3d, quality C4, etc. now most of these have been reformulated or off the market and the replacements have sucked in comparison. Name me one non grey-market pre-workout these days that is any good? They're all trash.

flavored caffeine is great for profit margins

[LoudyRowdy]

Don’t you have some Centrums to paint orange?

I lol’ed

[DamonX]

Thread of the year

Five stars all day, everyday


Matt, what flavors do you have planned to launch for CRZ?

[DASBUNKER]

will shaking the tub also be mandatory this time or will they arrive pre-shaken? not stirred.

Wonder if they'll take away more stuff after the chit storm that's to come... brace yourselves ****gos

[Sldge]

o rlly?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25792717
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25792717

Is that the lab that claimed they didnt find DMAA in the gernaium lawsuit with Hi Tech? Vaughn Im sure you would know more than anyone didnt Jared show that the lab and researchers lied and tried to change testing parameters to keep their bias going? I could be wrong but I thought Jared did.

[DamonX]

Look forward to your argument of why someone would take millions worth of illicit drugs to potentially break even when they could have just moved it for 10x profits.

Who said drugs? I'm talking skittles.

Don't know wtf you're on about; have you tasted the rainbow?

[Vitruvian]

Dude it’s hilarious how you’re all of a sudden hard on a forum when you’re soft AF on ********.

I didn’t say they suck. Last I heard **** was going down with Rich and I thought they were done. Had no clue they even existed anymore.

I giggled

[VaughnTrue]

I dont care that much but Id never say anything bad about Rich, Gaspari Nutrition or Wheat.

Neither would I. After dealing with both of them closely, I believe them both to be genuinely good people.

I honestly think the same of you Matt. I have no issues with you, and I respect a lot of what you’ve been able to achieve in this industry. What drives me bonkers is the inability to say “ok, ya got me!”

Now in reality I know you personally can’t say it, that would be an extremely poor choice legally speaking but to have a posse of white knights come in and still deny it is absurd to me. I got caught with my hand in the cookie jar so if anyone here gets it, it’s me. The difference was the non DSHEA/controlled compounds I used were clearly listed on the label, and we admitted to the reality of “yup, we ****ed up”. If you didn’t come onto the forums and still proclaim this crap now, it’d be a lot easier to respect you and the situation.

Instead, it’s just “we discontinued a prewo selling tens upon tens of millions of dollars a year because we wanted to! We could’ve kept selling it bc it was totally legal, but we didn’t want to. Ok guys?”


I know I hate it when I make too much money too.

[Sldge]

Thread of the year

Five stars all day, everyday


Matt, what flavors do you have planned to launch for CRZ?

Berry lemonade at first but its a work in progress. The base formula tastes terrible.

[LoudyRowdy]

Wait... I though Gaspari and Cahill were supposed to be in jail by now. Isn’t that what ol’ Thermolife and their fanboyz been harping about since the Dallas Cowboys won their last SuperBowl?

[VaughnTrue]

I giggled

Brb, posting gangster rap videos on FB so my grandma can like/comment/share.

[Rob1882]

Just because something isn't compliant or shouldn't be used in a supplement; Does not mean it's expensive.. The very idea that it not being compliant it self means expensive? wtf kind of dumbass argument is that. And supplement companies have a long long history of using non-compliant ingredients in their products.. one mentioned just a min ago... also super cheap/inexpensive.


Either way popcorn.gif

Brb, posting gangster rap videos on FB so my grandma can like/comment/share.

krs1 or gtfo

[Starkk]

countrymiiiiike, take me hoooome
to the plaaaaace i beloooonnng
west virginiaaaa, mountain mama

[Vitruvian]

Brb, posting gangster rap videos on FB so my grandma can like/comment/share.

Are you admitting to doing this or insinuating that I do?

Im starting out assuming that's an attempted burn.... but it fell so flat I'm left scratching my head

[powercage]

Brb, posting gangster rap videos on FB so my grandma can like/comment/share.

I chortled

[optimus1]

Just because something isn't compliant or shouldn't be used in a supplement; Does not mean it's expensive.. The very idea that it not being compliant it self means expensive? wtf kind of dumbass argument is that. And supplement companies have a long long history of using non-compliant ingredients in their products.. one mentioned just a min ago... also super cheap/inexpensive.


Either way popcorn.gif



krs1 or gtfo

It is not about non-compliant ingredients, it is about the claimed ingredients which would have cost a boatload of money. If you spiked your preworkout with effective oral dosages of (edit: stimulant you might buy from Colombia) you might have a popular product, but no one would sell it because the retail price would be outstripped by the production cost.

[Farley1324]

Wait...are there those who consider OG Craze being spiked with ethamphetamine a “conspiracy”?

Y’all flat earthers too?

lol

Just because something isn't compliant or shouldn't be used in a supplement; Does not mean it's expensive.. The very idea that it not being compliant it self means expensive? wtf kind of dumbass argument is that. And supplement companies have a long long history of using non-compliant ingredients in their products.. one mentioned just a min ago... also super cheap/inexpensive.


Either way popcorn.gif



krs1 or gtfo

Right?

[DamonX]

It is not about non-compliant ingredients, it is about the claimed ingredients which would have cost a boatload of money. If you spiked your preworkout with effective oral dosages of WEINERS you might have a popular product, but no one would sell it because the retail price would be outstripped by the production cost.

Please edit your post so this thread doesn't get locked. I haven't had this much excitement on this forum for years. Don't ruin it

[neuron]

Is that the lab that claimed they didnt find DMAA in the gernaium lawsuit with Hi Tech? Vaughn Im sure you would know more than anyone didnt Jared show that the lab and researchers lied and tried to change testing parameters to keep their bias going? I could be wrong but I thought Jared did.

Guess Korea must be in on this global conspiracy

https://link.springer.com/article/10...419-013-0205-6

[COUNTRYMIKE]

countrymiiiiike, take me hoooome
to the plaaaaace i beloooonnng
west virginiaaaa, mountain mama

lmao! This thread is now complete

[VaughnTrue]

Are you admitting to doing this or insinuating that I do?

Im starting out assuming that's an attempted burn.... but it fell so flat I'm left scratching my head

No I was saying it as in “my grandma is on ********, how hard do you expect me to go on there?”

I don’t need that lady slapping me in the face next time I see her. She hits like a champ. I know from experience.

[put5onyo]

countrymiiiiike, take me hoooome
to the plaaaaace i beloooonnng
west virginiaaaa, mountain mama

Almost heaven

[OT2000]

countrymiiiiike, take me hoooome
to the plaaaaace i beloooonnng
west virginiaaaa, mountain mama

Be honest, how much ErgoCLA do you have left? Asking for a friend

[VaughnTrue]

It is not about non-compliant ingredients, it is about the claimed ingredients which would have cost a boatload of money. If you spiked your preworkout with effective oral dosages of weiners you might have a popular product, but no one would sell it because the retail price would be outstripped by the production cost.

The specific skittles brand in discussion here would not be very expensive on a kg basis. And with mcg active dosing, it would probably end up being equal to or cheaper than the cost of a solid dose of citrulline in a product. A few bucks a tub at absolute max.

[put5onyo]

Guess Korea must be in on this global conspiracy

https://link.springer.com/article/10...419-013-0205-6

So what is the effective oral dose of this substance, and what is the bulk cost of this substance?

[Meatie]

Buncha hot headed Joe rogan heads ITT

[Sldge]

Neither would I. After dealing with both of them closely, I believe them both to be genuinely good people.

I honestly think the same of you Matt. I have no issues with you, and I respect a lot of what you’ve been able to achieve in this industry. What drives me bonkers is the inability to say “ok, ya got me!”

Now in reality I know you personally can’t say it, that would be an extremely poor choice legally speaking but to have a posse of white knights come in and still deny it is absurd to me. I got caught with my hand in the cookie jar so if anyone here gets it, it’s me. The difference was the non DSHEA/controlled compounds I used were clearly listed on the label, and we admitted to the reality of “yup, we ****ed up”. If you didn’t come onto the forums and still proclaim this crap now, it’d be a lot easier to respect you and the situation.

Instead, it’s just “we discontinued a prewo selling tens upon tens of millions of dollars a year because we wanted to! We could’ve kept selling it bc it was totally legal, but we didn’t want to. Ok guys?”


I know I hate it when I make too much money too.

I didnt call a posse of white knights in here. I came in to tell you there's no reason for you to wait to bash something you're never going to try anyway. My friends came in strictly for the LULZ. You have a completely skewed view of what you think happened and Im no longer interested in trying to convince the people who will never be convinced of anything. There is nothing to change anyone's mind of anything else at this point.

I discontinued selling Superdrol about 7 years before iForce did, long after it was completely illegal for iForce to sell. I sold less Superdrol than anyone. I introduced it, sold less than anyone. So yeah, I have no problem discontinuing a product that I could make millions of dollars on.

[Rob1882]

The specific skittles brand in discussion here would not be very expensive on a kg basis. And with mcg active dosing, it would probably end up being equal to or cheaper than the cost of a solid dose of citrulline in a product. A few bucks a tub at absolute max.

Exactly.