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    Originally Posted by Sldge View Post
    exactly. which is why i said, there's no reason to wait. it makes no difference

    I learned my lesson on the true OH GEE batch.

    Fool me once...shame on you. Fool me twice, my chances of experiencing eth withdrawal increase significantly.
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    Originally Posted by Sldge View Post
    exactly. which is why i said, there's no reason to wait. it makes no difference
    This thread has me wanting to try this stuff. Even if it doesn't live up to the writeup it apparently works amazingly as rustling jimmies.

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    Originally Posted by put5onyo View Post
    So wait you honestly think someone would take tonnage of illicit drugs, dose them at a level to have an effect, pay for labels, tubs, shipping, advertising, and other ingredients to make $5/tub?

    Wouldn’t it make more sense to move that much weight wholesale?

    I mean seriously I love conspiracies but this may be the dumbest one I’ve ever heard.

    “Hey can I get $2,000,000 worth of so I can chop it up and mix it with a bunch of other ingredients and put in tubs and add labels and pay for shipping?”

    Sounds legit
    OG Craze did not actually have anything illegal in it. DS just played the same game guys play, which is that they are legally allowed to put something out on the market that is a molecule or two different from the real deal, then sell it until their own molecule gets banned. Craze did not have in it - it had a novel stimulant that was not illegal, but they got enough heat for it that they had to take it off the market. No one ever died or was injured from craze, unlike crap like yohimbine and banned ****
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    Originally Posted by DamonX View Post
    In 4 the drama

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    Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    I learned my lesson on the true OH GEE batch.

    Fool me once...shame on you. Fool me twice, my chances of experiencing eth withdrawal increase significantly.
    I took OG craze 3-5x a week, never developed a true addiction and did not have any significant withdrawal. I know what withdrawal is, I used to be prescribed benzos and an ssri, withdrawals from those are real and unpleasant. Craze did not have any worse withdrawal than any other preworkout on the market.
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    Originally Posted by optimus1 View Post
    OG Craze did not actually have anything illegal in it. DS just played the same game guys play, which is that they are legally allowed to put something out on the market that is a molecule or two different from the real deal, then sell it until their own molecule gets banned. Craze did not have in it - it had a novel stimulant that was not illegal, but they got enough heat for it that they had to take it off the market. No one ever died or was injured from craze, unlike crap like yohimbine and banned **** .
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    Originally Posted by put5onyo View Post
    So wait you honestly think someone would take tonnage of illicit drugs, dose them at a level to have an effect, pay for labels, tubs, shipping, advertising, and other ingredients to make $5/tub?

    Wouldn’t it make more sense to move that much weight wholesale?

    I mean seriously I love conspiracies but this may be the dumbest one I’ve ever heard.

    “Hey can I get $2,000,000 worth of (can't discuss drugs because it's against forum rules and I'll be banned for 30 days) so I can chop it up and mix it with a bunch of other ingredients and put in tubs and add labels and pay for shipping?”

    Sounds legit
    Wait...are there those who consider OG Craze being spiked with ethamphetamine a “conspiracy”?

    Y’all flat earthers too?
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    Originally Posted by COUNTRYMIKE View Post
    I don't plan on it as long as nobody posts specific drugs in here because you it's against forum rules. We can refer to any and all drugs as "Skittles"
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    Originally Posted by optimus1 View Post
    OG Craze did not actually have anything illegal in it. DS just played the same game guys play, which is that they are legally allowed to put something out on the market that is a molecule or two different from the real deal, then sell it until their own molecule gets banned. Craze did not have in it - it had a novel stimulant that was not illegal, but they got enough heat for it that they had to take it off the market. No one ever died or was injured from craze, unlike crap like yohimbine and banned ****
    But Vaughn “still go hard in the bb.com paint even though it died five years ago” True says they were spiking it with millions of dollars worth of illicit drugs?
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    Originally Posted by Vitruvian View Post
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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    This cant be a serious post.
    Name me one person that ever suffered serious withdrawal from Craze, or had a heart attack from it, or died from it. Never happened. Happens with caffeine and other stimulants dozens of times a year, but Craze has no recorded incidents of sickness or death.
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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    This cant be a serious post.
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    They might be doing better had they not been duped by Cahill and pierce into releasing a spiked fat burner.


    How’s DS sales in the USA? I’d bet my left ball and my mortgage that Gaspari has a higher domestic gross and profit margin than DS currently.
    Who said anything bad about Gaspari or that DS sells more or that DS has higher sales? What are you 5 yo old? DS definitely sells less and profit margin plays no part in our formulations. Consistently we have always had terrible margins but Ive never cared about that.


    Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    Well no, I’d owe the winner the remainder of my mortgage value. Property prices in NJ are a bitch, it’d be at least like $50 I bet since I bought this house less than 2 years ago.


    So...are we going to continue with the “bruh you post too much”, “haha gaspari sucks now”, amid other useless arguments or are we going to hunker down and figure out what this European only (no FDA to worry about...does Europe extradite from the US? Can Europe extradite a US govt informant?) preworkout May or May not have sprinkled inside it?
    No one is saying Gaspari sucks nor would I. I think its great that Rich got the company back. Couldnt be happier about it. US govt informant, you sound like a moron. Complete lack of common sense and logic is still alive and well on BB.com.

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    Originally Posted by put5onyo View Post
    Don’t you have some Centrums to paint orange?
    I wish I could say your tactics have improved
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    I missed the DS propaganda crew. Good times
    I look forward to your explanation as to why someone would take millions of dollars worth of illicit drugs to potentially break even?
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    Name me one person that ever suffered serious withdrawal from Craze, or had a heart attack from it, or died from it. Never happened. Happens with caffeine and other stimulants dozens of times a year, but Craze has no recorded incidents of sickness or death.
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    Originally Posted by put5onyo View Post
    I look forward to your explanation as to why someone would take millions of dollars worth of illicit drugs to potentially break even?
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    Originally Posted by Sldge View Post
    Who said anything bad about Gaspari or that DS sells more or that DS has higher sales? What are you 5 yo old? DS definitely sells less and profit margin plays no part in our formulations. Consistently we have always had terrible margins but Ive never cared about that.


    No one is saying Gaspari sucks nor would I. I think its great that Rich got the company back. Couldnt be happier about it. US govt informant, you sound like a moron. Complete lack of common sense and logic is still alive and well on BB.com.

    CRZ isnt european only.
    Go back to page 1. Read the posts in sequential order. They’re numbered on the right hand side which will help you move through them.

    Yes, someone is discussing gaspari and saying they “suck”.

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    I wish I could say your tactics have improved
    I wish I could say I remembered who you are.
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    i learned my lesson on the true oh gee batch.

    Fool me once...shame on you. Fool me twice, my chances of experiencing eth withdrawal increase significantly.
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    You know growing up I was always a good kid. I never messed with skittles or anything. I never knew what addiction felt like, or withdrawals. I was ignorant to always say, "if they really want to quit, they can , it's just will power."


    i still have never intentionally done any sort of skittles. But I learned from firsthand experience what addiction felt like, and what withdrawals were. Having depression for months, the cravings, etc.. it felt horrible. Yet, all I knew was that I just wanted a preworkout for energy.
    I tried dozens of preworkouts to make the withdrawals go away, just trying to resist that my favorite preworkout could potentially have had skittles. I didn't want to believe it, yet nothing worked.
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    Originally Posted by put5onyo View Post
    I wish I could say I remembered who you are.
    you got me!
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    I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...

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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    I never said there were illicit drugs. We are all gentlemen and scholars here.
    So you agree the original Craze had nothing illegal?

    We are in agreement then.
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    Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    Go back to page 1. Read the posts in sequential order. They’re numbered on the right hand side which will help you move through them.

    Yes, someone is discussing gaspari and saying they “suck”.

    He’s one of your fedora boys. Let me know when you’re caught up.
    Dude it’s hilarious how you’re all of a sudden hard on a forum when you’re soft AF on ********.

    I didn’t say they suck. Last I heard **** was going down with Rich and I thought they were done. Had no clue they even existed anymore.
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    Originally Posted by DamonX View Post
    You know growing up I was always a good kid. I never messed with skittles or anything. I never knew what addiction felt like, or withdrawals. I was ignorant to always say, "if they really want to quit, they can , it's just will power."


    i still have never intentionally done any sort of skittles. But I learned from firsthand experience what addiction felt like, and what withdrawals were. Having depression for months, the cravings, etc.. it felt horrible. Yet, all I knew was that I just wanted a preworkout for energy.
    I tried dozens of preworkouts to make the withdrawals go away, just trying to resist that my favorite preworkout could potentially have had skittles. I didn't want to believe it, yet nothing worked.

    Look forward to your argument of why someone would take millions worth of illicit drugs to potentially break even when they could have just moved it for 10x profits.
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    Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    Go back to page 1. Read the posts in sequential order. They’re numbered on the right hand side which will help you move through them.

    Yes, someone is discussing gaspari and saying they “suck”.

    He’s one of your fedora boys. Let me know when you’re caught up.
    I dont care that much but Id never say anything bad about Rich, Gaspari Nutrition or Wheat.
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