Bigger waist

[Maxx Power]

How do you go from having a skinny waist to something like this?.....
It looks like he swallowed an atlas stone!
I eat a ton but I cant gain any conciderable weight!

[Mateo_66]

Weighted sit ups and dumbell side bends. You have to use a lot of weight for lower reps to build a thick strong midsection.

[Maxx Power]

I do the side bends with a 25lb DB and then 50+ reps of nautilus machine crunches, and decline situps.
Ive been told not to do weighted situps but Im willing to try it at this point.

[bstan2180]

Post your current diet and others can let you know if you really are eating enough given your weight and goals.

[magicman531]

Doing situps won't give you a look like that. Heavy weights and "supplements" will though. These guys work their abs doing massive lifts that stress the core, not hours of crunches. Olympic lifters and powerlifters usually have thick waists. As do the top level bodybuilders, but that's usually from something else...

[Maxx Power]

I dont really have a fixed diet nor do I count the calories of what I eat. I eat what I want, when I want. Mostly restaraunt and fast food. I also take multi vitimins, and 3 servings of GNC whey protien daily.
I always start the day by having a big bowl of oatmeal for breakfast. I try and eat 4-5 meals a day. When I say I eat alot I mean everything from chineese food, pizza, roast beef, steak, cheese, chicken, eggs, Pinapple, various veggies from time to time, tons of pasta and bread you get the idea.
I just ate a large (16oz) cheese steak and a 1/4lb cheeseburger an hour ago and Im starving now so I'm sure I have more than 3,000 calories a day. I know Im probably not going to live past 50y/o if I keep eating like this but Im havin a hell of a time doing it.

[Maxx Power]

Originally Posted by magicman531

Doing situps won't give you a look like that. Heavy weights and "supplements" will though. These guys work their abs doing massive lifts that stress the core, not hours of crunches. Olympic lifters and powerlifters usually have thick waists. As do the top level bodybuilders, but that's usually from something else...

So your saying do squats, deads, chins or steroids.

[pprivon]

I've gotten a much bigger waist by doing heavy decline situps (full rom), squatting/deadlifting w/o a belt (make sure you suck all the air into your gut and flex your abs and expand outwards), heavy side bends (60-70lb DBs for 8-10 reps).

Stuff like that.

[magicman531]

Originally Posted by Maxx Power

So your saying do squats, deads, chins or steroids.

Not or steroids, it's and steroids.

Well on a serious side, yes those lifts hit the core. But to build big obliques and core muscles do one arm lifts. Look at the old time strongmen who did these lifts all the time. They have some huge waists and most were under 200 pounds. Marvin Eder was 200 pounds and had a 34'' waist with a 6 pack and no steroids.

[Maxx Power]

Great advice so far, thanks.
Are weighted situps really even worth it? Ive been told that you will end up with back problems from those....

[jason1052004]

Bottom line = You gotta take roids to get a roid gut.

[75kg]

Roids or HGH will get you the wonderful roid bulge that Mariusz has. It is possible to get a similar look by working your core like you would your triceps, low reps and heavy but probablly not to that extent. Your more likely to look like Bill Kazmeier at that point though.
around 7 seconds
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cRhxMY8JB...elated&search=

[magicman531]

Kazmaier was on roids too. But they were different back then. However his look is attainable. Let me dig up some of the old timers I'm referring to and let you see if that's what you're thinking of.

They call that the GH gut. That's how bodybuilders with like 3% bodyfat still have pot bellies that stick out like basketballs.

[magicman531]

Some pics

Marvin Eder 200 pounds btw

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9026/53misc34jl.jpg

http://www.americanpowerliftevolutio...ss6-53s&h1.jpg

George Hackenschmidt also around 200 btw

http://www.sandowplus.co.uk/Competit...enschmidt4.jpg

http://www.sandowmuseum.com/hackenschmidt20s.jpeg

Edward Aston 170's
http://www.sandowplus.co.uk/Competit...ton_edward.jpg

Ernest Cadine 200ish
http://www.fitplus.cz/allpic/mf/kronika_343.jpg


Arthur Saxon 200
http://halteurope2007.free.fr/eupean...p_image017.jpg

These are all steroid free lifters. They don't have the pot belly look to them, but they have heavily muscled waist/core sections. You don't see many lifters today or bodybuilders who look like these guys. Both because they did different lifts and had different goals. The "in" look for people is to have a big chest, arms, and a small tiny waist.

But a powerful waist is a thick waist. You've got to train it and train it hard. One arm lifts were the main contributor for the old timers on getting a thick waist. If you don't believe me, next time you're in the gym try a set of heavy one arm presses or side presses and see how your core/obliques feel the next day.

[BigDerek]

Originally Posted by Maxx Power

How do you go from having a skinny waist to something like this?.....
It looks like he swallowed an atlas stone!
I eat a ton but I cant gain any conciderable weight!

Any thing involving the hips. Farmers walks, squats, box squats etc.

[The_Brawler]

Originally Posted by magicman531

Not or steroids, it's and steroids.

Well on a serious side, yes those lifts hit the core. But to build big obliques and core muscles do one arm lifts. Look at the old time strongmen who did these lifts all the time. They have some huge waists and most were under 200 pounds. Marvin Eder was 200 pounds and had a 34'' waist with a 6 pack and no steroids.

a 34" waist for a 200lb guy isnt really that much. I'm 6ft and 165lbs with a 33" waist with a six pack.

[Mateo_66]

Originally Posted by Maxx Power

I do the side bends with a 25lb DB and then 50+ reps of nautilus machine crunches, and decline situps.
Ive been told not to do weighted situps but Im willing to try it at this point.

There is your problem right there. If you want a strong midsection 25 pounds isnt going to do it on a side bend. You need to be using anywhere from 100-200+ pounds for a dumbbell side bend. Also whoever told you to not do weighted sit ups dont know much about strength or power because those are the best for building a supportive midsection. Save the machines for the birds and use the free weights.

[Mateo_66]

Originally Posted by Maxx Power

Great advice so far, thanks.
Are weighted situps really even worth it? Ive been told that you will end up with back problems from those....

Keep your glutes tight and flexed throughout the entire motion and you will have no back troubles. Any lift you do can injure you if you do it wrong.

[magicman531]

Originally Posted by The_Brawler

a 34" waist for a 200lb guy isnt really that much. I'm 6ft and 165lbs with a 33" waist with a six pack.

Marvin was 5 inches shorter than you. And on a person that much smaller with an inch bigger on their waist looks much larger. Just look at the pictures of him and see how thick he looks.

[Radok]

Originally Posted by magicman531

As do the top level bodybuilders, but that's usually from something else...

They get it from the same thing top level strongmen do, and it's not ab work.

[The_Brawler]

Originally Posted by magicman531

Marvin was 5 inches shorter than you. And on a person that much smaller with an inch bigger on their waist looks much larger. Just look at the pictures of him and see how thick he looks.

But shouldnet my waist me smaller coz i am taller so more slim. But anywayz, 25lbs side bends aint ****, i do a few sets for 8 reps with 100lbs

[ArchDukeOfTops]

heavy squats and deads have made a small waist a no go for me. I don't do much direct ab work and I put my core strength up against anybody who's doing a lot of crunches.

[Danimal]

Originally Posted by ArchDukeOfTops

heavy squats and deads have made a small waist a no go for me. I don't do much direct ab work and I put my core strength up against anybody who's doing a lot of crunches.

That's the way to do it. The best core work is heavy squats and deads.

[Uriel_da_man]

Originally Posted by Maxx Power

How do you go from having a skinny waist to something like this?.....
It looks like he swallowed an atlas stone!
I eat a ton but I cant gain any conciderable weight!

1) Heavy deadlifts, squats, sit ups (good luck building huge abs with sets of 50), etc etc.
2) Peptide hormones and lots of food.

[Big_Spaz]

I think the guy looks really good. Roid gut and all.





-Spaz

[magicman531]

Originally Posted by The_Brawler

But shouldnet my waist me smaller coz i am taller so more slim. But anywayz, 25lbs side bends aint , i do a few sets for 8 reps with 100lbs

I would assume that'd be the case.

I agree with the last few posts, but none of them mentioned one armed work. That overloads one side and forces your core to work.

[GDA]

i got the roid got goin without roids and honestly id like to change that. i want a thick midsection, but not so much a pot belly with a six pack. my daughter says i look pregnent.

[Ramon66]

that guy probably uses alot of HGH IGFlr1 5000-6000-cals every day
and lots of other gear you will never get that thick without all that gear food and dedication that is only for the top 1% of the population.
squats wthout a wieght belt will thicken your mid section.

[ChickenLarge]

He eats a lot more 6000 cals a day, I dont know the exact number but I understand its closer to like 9 or 10,000. He works out like 6hrs a day. Oh and to the op HGH is the way to go for a waist like that.

[Gr3g_Lycan]

Originally Posted by Maxx Power

So your saying do squats, deads, chins or steroids.

Big stomach + abs = chemical enhancement.