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03-23-2018, 08:27 PM #66
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I don't understand why some people are seeing that he is a fraud now and not before. The guy got a ton of money and connections from his daddy and when he tried to run a casino his father had to come and bail him out.The problem is that when you mention things like this people assume that you are a leftist. I hate the far left in much the same way I hate the far right. People have let their emotions get the better of them. They wanted to believe his WWE style speeches but the guy is little more than a snake oil salesman. Before the Apprentice show saved him from drifting into further obscurity he was shilling steaks for the Sharper Image. I think the Republican Party should have rallied about a true conservative in Ron Paul instead of demonizing him in the news. He was a true outsider but of course he didn't speak with theatrics so it's not enough to appeal to the peasants.
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03-23-2018, 08:47 PM #71
Revisionist history/10
Funny how Elon Musk takes taxpayer money and uses for projects, but Trump used "daddy's money" and is just a fraud. You would be hard pressed to find a successful businessman who didn't use other's capitol at some point.
But besides that point. The 5 decade fraud is the Dem/GOP parties, neither is who they claim. If Trump doesn't run, then what do you think Hillary or Yeb would do? Immigration only became an issue due to Trump. Trade is only an issue due to Trump. Both of which he's undercut on constantly by GOP's leaders and MSM Repub talking heads. Would have loved for him to veto this trash bill, but at some point he would have had to sign something, that's reality. Last time I checked, no one stepped up when the Speaker of the House position was open, Ryan got it by default. Mitch has been leading the Senate how long? Even after he went to war with the Tea Party that got them the majority.
Voters get the government they deserve. Nothing changes if people expect one election....16 months ago to do it. Where's the anger at townhalls? Or the Tea Party rallies? Or new blood to replace Congress. All I see is bluster and whining, same as Bernie bros when the DNC fukked themover. Wah wah wah, Trump didn't put on his cape and save us like this is some MCU flick. Voters have all the power, and GOP primaries are coming up .Last edited by TaeBoNinja; 03-23-2018 at 08:53 PM.
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03-23-2018, 08:50 PM #72
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03-23-2018, 08:57 PM #73
I really don't get how people are blaming Trump for this mess as if he created and promoted it. He got out maneuvered. Nothing more. He was considering vetoing the bill and then Paul Ryan went to Washington and talked Trump out of it. He tried to make friends with Ryan and McConnell in hopes it would help move his agenda forward and they turned on him. Your anger should be focused on the republicans and democrats who created the bill and voted for this and the way it was moved forward. Trump deserves blame for being foolish but he isn't the source of our problems.
By not recognizing this we are handing the swamp exactly what they want...the assurance an outsider like Trump will never be elected again.
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03-23-2018, 09:04 PM #74
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Jesus Christ dude. He is a grown ass man. What happened to tough guy Trump that is supposed to stand up to foreign nations such as North Korea and Iran? Apparently little ole Paul Ryan got him to buckle. Freaking wake man. He is also a billionaire. He isn't an outsider. That is just WWE style promo for his campaign. There are numerous instances of him golfing with Bill Clinton. " Outsiders " don't do that. Jesus Christ some people are so dense that they cannot even see what is in front of them because it contradicts with what they already believe. Cognitive Dissonance 101
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It's not shocking but I did think that he would at leas somewhat chill out with the tweeting after he won, because he had a real chance to get something good going for him.
I acknowledged he was a seriously flawed candidate from the get go, I voted for him because I agreed with some of his views but it was mainly a "want Hillary and the Democrats to lose" vote.*Sit there and don't know what to do when people sing happy birthday to me crew*
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03-23-2018, 09:31 PM #82
I don't know how people fell for the Trump meme. Dude's a ****ing bull**** artist in its purest sense. Always has been. I actually kind of understand, although not agree with, some of the conservative talking points, but you thought Trump was going to be the guy to advance them? LOL He fooled you with his "LOOK, i can say whatever i want, i'm not politically correct" gimmick. Just a mentally unstable old coot with 0 dignity.
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03-24-2018, 04:52 AM #90
Question: if he had refused to sign this, and was overriden because the GOP are snakes, the talk would have been how weak and inept he was, right?
I don’t know what’s going on inside him but how could he have stopped this?All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
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