Pull ups are the most important back exercise

[Codyisback]

These are essential for back width and fitness and overall strength. If you can't pull yourself up use an assisted machine on the lowest setting possible. A back routine must include at least 50 pull ups.

/thread

[CaptJeef]

But who is Cody?

[wildturkey]

ok.

[smithshreds]

Cant even do 1 pullup and my lats are one of my best body parts crew

[GrammarNaziM8]

Cant even do 1 pullup and my lats are one of my best body parts crew

Yea sure and I can bench press 700 lbs.
Pics for proof

[smithshreds]

ok.

u look like jason blaha bro

[DubBrah]

Weighted pull-ups FTW.

[smithshreds]

Yea sure and I can bench press 700 lbs.
Pics for proof

https://imgur.com/a/ENP3t

https://imgur.com/a/C0emd

https://imgur.com/a/UMBuz

Only been lifting 1 year, but they are one of my stronger muscle groups rn

[GrammarNaziM8]

https://imgur.com/a/ENP3t

https://imgur.com/a/C0emd

https://imgur.com/a/UMBuz

Only been lifting 1 year, but they are one of my stronger muscle groups rn

They look pretty good. That's good progress but I doubt you can't do pull ups given the width of the lats

[nm1891]

Phuck pull ups.

[smithshreds]

They look pretty good. That's good progress but I doubt you can't do pull ups given the width of the lats

Genuinely can't do one, never tried to get good at them but i go to do a pullup it's hard as **** so i just stop, can do like 5 chins max.


I just bent over barbell row 3x a week, went from struggling with the bar to doing 100kg for reps.

[GrammarNaziM8]

Genuinely can't do one, never tried to get good at them but i go to do a pullup it's hard as **** so i just stop, can do like 5 chins max.


I just bent over barbell row 3x a week, went from struggling with the bar to doing 100kg for reps.

Das it then. 100kg rows>>>>> pull ups

[Dota2Brah]

women can tell the difference between functional strength (pullups) and useless strength (rows). that's why many jacked miscers can't get women. the women know that they wouldnt be able to assist in a cliff hanging crisis situation, turning them off.

[wildturkey]

Das it then. 100kg rows>>>>> pull ups

I can confirm, but I can do pullups as well (Only about 5)

[criminal_manne]

Agree. Always start back day with as many pull-ups as I can do. Usually 3-4 sets to failure with about a minute or two between sets and I can't do many more.

[Metalmank]

I can do a decent amount of pull ups at bodyweight.

But I don't.

I like rows.

[smithshreds]

women can tell the difference between functional strength (pullups) and useless strength (rows). that's why many jacked miscers can't get women. the women know that they wouldnt be able to assist in a cliff hanging crisis situation, turning them off.

tell that to her when shes hanging off a cliff and you don't have the pulling strength built from rows you beta cuck

[wincel]

Pull ups are a great compound movement, but if you just want to build lats, pulldowns or rows are gonna get them bigger. Heavy close grip pulldowns are REALLY good for width IMO. The reason pullups are inferior to these isolation exercises for pure back development is that they make use of your traps, biceps, forearms, teres, lats, and abs/pecs/delts for stability. That's a lot of muscle groups being recruited, and they compensate for a lot of the weight. Your traps are involved in most of the motion of a pullup from the bottom, and your biceps are doing a significant amount of the work as well getting you up there.

[criminal_manne]

Pull ups are a great compond movement, but if you just want to build lats, pulldowns or rows are gonna get them bigger. Heavy close grip pulldowns are REALLY good for width IMO.

Disagree. You can mix up grips on pull-ups as well. As far as back width (as opposed to thickness) pull-ups can't be beat.

How would heavy "close-grip" focus on width. That would incorporate more bicep and rhomboid not lats

[poptarts]

Phuck pull days s rs. Hate it.

[wincel]

Disagree. You can mix up grips on pull-ups as well. As far as back width (as opposed to thickness) pull-ups can't be beat.

How would heavy "close-grip" focus on width. That would incorporate more bicep and rhomboid not lats

IDK I have always felt my lats way more active in heavy close grip work than wide grip. I looked it up,and you are right about it involving more biceps according to some studies so IDK then. And common broscience is wide grip for thickness, close grip for width...

[infinityplus1]

Must be pretty easy to do 50 pull ups when you're a twink OP

[Dota2Brah]

tell that to her when shes hanging off a cliff and you don't have the pulling strength built from rows you beta cuck

damn row boys worse than soy boys

[FreeTheRobots]

but who was pull ups AND rows? Pull ups are goat bodyweight though used the **** out of my pull up bar

[Aahl]

women can tell the difference between functional strength (pullups) and useless strength (rows). that's why many jacked miscers can't get women. the women know that they wouldnt be able to assist in a cliff hanging crisis situation, turning them off.

that goes against misc logic . Because manlets r usually the fellas who can rep out pull ups usually weighted aswell.

[jonB89]

Disagree. Pull ups have done f*ck all for my back development compared to bb rows and t-bars rows.

[TommyRO]

Genuinely can't do one, never tried to get good at them but i go to do a pullup it's hard as **** so i just stop, can do like 5 chins max.


I just bent over barbell row 3x a week, went from struggling with the bar to doing 100kg for reps.

Hows this possible, what do you weigh? Even at my heaviest I could do pull ups because of heavy ass rows. I guarantee if you start practicing you'd be able to do 10+ in a month.

[hbhorat]

Pull ups after every bench/OHP set checking in.

[Dota2Brah]

Pull ups after every bench/OHP set checking in.

brah you forgot to work out of the lower half of your body LMAO. are you fukin serious?

[sammywatkins]

Dorian Yates advice

The Myth of Wide-grip Superiority

One myth that has held back the development of lats the world over is the persistent idea that using a wide grip on chins and pulldowns is the best way to build wider lats. This myth probably has its origins in the fact that using a wide grip on any vertical pulling motion will selectively recruit the smaller upper back muscles like the teres major and minor, the upper portion of the traps, and the rhomboids.

When a bodybuilder feels these smaller muscle groups at the top of the back working, he often assumes he is making his lats wider. But the lats actually originate under the armpits and insert near the waist. Using a wide grip does not provide anywhere near a full range of motion for them. A narrower grip, in contrast, allows both a better stretch and a more complete contraction. If you don’t believe me, pantomime two types of pulldowns right now as you read this, doing your best to contract the lats as hard as possible: a wide-grip pulldown and a narrow, underhand grip. I guarantee you that you will feel a more powerful contraction of the lats with the narrow underhand grip.

In my early career, I experimented with various types of grips, and I found that using a closer grip with the hands either parallel (facing each other) or fully supinated (underhand) actually provided the best contraction and most complete range of motion for the lats. Throughout my Mr. Olympia reign, I never did a single set of wide-grip chins or lat pulldowns. My two choices for vertical pulling were always a narrow underhand grip for lat pulldowns, which I would go up to 400 pounds on, and the Hammer Strength Iso-lateral pulldown machine.

A final reason to consider using a narrow grip beyond the issue of range of motion is the fact that it puts the biceps in a stronger position. Since the biceps are far smaller and weaker than the lats, putting them in a position where they are guaranteed to fail before the lats are properly stimulated, as in any wide-grip vertical pull, will cause you to shortchange your potential growth.