*BREAKING* multiple people down at shooting at Colorado Walmart

[Ikeman83]

"Nothing can be done to prevent this."

-Resident of only country in the western world where this happens regularly.

Just watched a BBC special about Britain's rising gun crime.

Also, this is totally preventable. I'm surprised that no one in Colorado had a carry permit.

[Ikeman83]

Its absolutely mind numbing that you use to be an actual LEO, and sincerely every single one of your post clearly show why.

I didnt saw new guns laws would stop violence even though I think its common sense mentally ill and those with priors shouldnt be allowed to own guns.

I said the travel ban is as ridiculous as claiming a gun ban will work.

You said we all know what needs to be done, I personally don't lol, so while you're taking the honor of speaking for all of us, tell us in clear terms what you think needs to be done.



Or less prescribing them? I've broken my leg, 2 ribs and jaw. Declined pain killers every time. I don't know what the draw is to them, but I am not going to find out if I can help it.

So, the core problem with a gun ban is that it's unenforceable, and killers don't need guns to kill. A travel ban is very enforceable, and stops the killing from happening here.

[coolbrah75]

Burn in hell mass shooters! Ken Reid mature 22 year old Spreading positivity always. Positivity will never go away in Life. Hell with you Lust! If I die a virgin no problem

[Farley1324]

I didnt saw new guns laws would stop violence even though I think its common sense mentally ill and those with priors shouldnt be allowed to own guns.

Define mentally ill.

What priors

[Farley1324]

Again, it was only until RECENTLY that everyone has 2a rights...


For the majority of our history, it was limited to MILITIA.


I can't get into the politics of what government should or shouldn't do...

All I know is that people without training shouldn't have guns... or minimally, shouldn't have high-powered semi-auto rifles....

I personally think everyone should have a gun willy-nilly, but then I look at the gang statistics and where they get their guns, and all the kids shooting their moms, and it makes me rethink my ideals.

This is a ****ing complicated matter, but the end goal should be to reduce access for willy-nillers...as they are the primary supplier of gangs, children, and lunatics.

We are all ****ed either way, because there are already so many guns in America. I don't think anything we do now will affect current generations, but perhaps in future to come.

Stop lying bro

All I know is that you are as wrong as you could possibly be so, please, just stop..

On a related note, I hope to God you don't live or vote in the US

[dhawkeye1980]

Define mentally ill.

What priors

Whats funny is he doesnt know mentally ill and felons/violent misd are aready banned from owning firearms but mental illness doesnt show on background checks because of hippa laws (which according to the utah cop thread he knows all about hippa)

[nightmare69]

Its absolutely mind numbing that you use to be an actual LEO, and sincerely every single one of your post clearly show why.

I didnt saw new guns laws would stop violence even though I think its common sense mentally ill and those with priors shouldnt be allowed to own guns.

I said the travel ban is as ridiculous as claiming a gun ban will work.

You said we all know what needs to be done, I personally don't lol, so while you're taking the honor of speaking for all of us, tell us in clear terms what you think needs to be done.



Or less prescribing them? I've broken my leg, 2 ribs and jaw. Declined pain killers every time. I don't know what the draw is to them, but I am not going to find out if I can help it.

Our home state is one of the few who does report mental illness so that it will show up during a BG check. Felonies and assaults as well as stalking and harassment charges will decline you from buying a firearm. What more do you want?

[jason_bh]

Define mentally ill.

Voting for Hillary.

[dhawkeye1980]

Its absolutely mind numbing that you use to be an actual LEO, and sincerely every single one of your post clearly show why.

I didnt saw new guns laws would stop violence even though I think its common sense mentally ill and those with priors shouldnt be allowed to own guns.

I said the travel ban is as ridiculous as claiming a gun ban will work.

You said we all know what needs to be done, I personally don't lol, so while you're taking the honor of speaking for all of us, tell us in clear terms what you think needs to be done.



Or less prescribing them? I've broken my leg, 2 ribs and jaw. Declined pain killers every time. I don't know what the draw is to them, but I am not going to find out if I can help it.

Its absolutely mind numbing how low iq you are

[slo0tPatrol]

Doesn't Chicago have strong gun laws tho?

How's that working out for you?

But bordering states don't. People just drive to states with lax gun laws, and bring them back to Illinois. derpaderp

[jason_bh]

But bordering states don't. People just drive to states with lax gun laws, and bring them back to Illinois. derpaderp

But why don't those states have the same issue as IL (Chicago)? Derp...

Surely keeping citizens defenseless has nothing to do with crime rates, right?

[slo0tPatrol]

But why don't those states have the same issue as IL (Chicago)? Derp...

Surely keeping citizens defenseless has nothing to do with crime rates, right?

Wasn't arguing that Chicago doesn't have a gang and poverty problem, but when people throw the whole "What about chicago" "Gun laws there" "insert trope about Chicago gun laws" they don't realize people will just drive 20 minutes to Indiana or Wisconsin and buy guns there, and bring them back. Gun violence here is a systematic issue more than it is a "we're all a bunch of crazies"

[dhawkeye1980]

Wasn't arguing that Chicago doesn't have a gang and poverty problem, but when people throw the whole "What about chicago" "Gun laws there" "insert trope about Chicago gun laws" they don't realize people will just drive 20 minutes to Indiana or Wisconsin and buy guns there, and bring them back. Gun violence here is a systematic issue more than it is a "we're all a bunch of crazies"

Kinda the point, if these gang members are driving to buy weapons why are they not committing crimes in those other states? Could it possibly be because its easier to rob people in chicago where they know their victims will be unarmed and therefore easier victims

[jason_bh]

Wasn't arguing that Chicago doesn't have a gang and poverty problem, but when people throw the whole "What about chicago" "Gun laws there" "insert trope about Chicago gun laws" they don't realize people will just drive 20 minutes to Indiana or Wisconsin and buy guns there, and bring them back. Gun violence here is a systematic issue more than it is a "we're all a bunch of crazies"

So what you're saying is that criminals don't follow the laws. However, the law abiding citizens that do follow the laws have no way of defending themselves against these dirt bags. Makes sense that crime would thrive in a place like that, right?

[slo0tPatrol]

So what you're saying is that criminals don't follow the laws. However, the law abiding citizens that do follow the laws have no way of defending themselves against these dirt bags. Makes sense that crime would thrive in a place like that, right?

I own a gun, I'd consider myself a law abiding citizen. But why is the solution to the problem to not do anything at all? Why not try and fix the system? Am I for banning all weapons? No, but what preventative measures can be taken so that these incidents can be limited. The link below shows how much gun related crimes are out there, so how can we decrease gun related incidents from 51k to maybe 25k in 1-5 years

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

[jason_bh]

I own a gun, I'd consider myself a law abiding citizen. But why is the solution to the problem to not do anything at all? Why not try and fix the system? Am I for banning all weapons? No, but what preventative measures can be taken so that these incidents can be limited. The link below shows how much gun related crimes are out there, so how can we decrease gun related incidents from 51k to maybe 25k in 1-5 years

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

If the laws are so great, how about we start by enforcing the laws in place? Get the guns out the hands of criminals.

Banning firearms is NOT the answer.

[PeaceWithin]

Kinda the point, if these gang members are driving to buy weapons why are they not committing crimes in those other states? Could it possibly be because its easier to rob people in chicago where they know their victims will be unarmed and therefore easier victims

So what you're saying is that criminals don't follow the laws. However, the law abiding citizens that do follow the laws have no way of defending themselves against these dirt bags. Makes sense that crime would thrive in a place like that, right?

Das it mane

[benz5521]

Can't criticize the US?

I bet you have no problem with Trump calling the US justice system a laughing stock and a joke.

That's totally fine though, right.

It’s not criticizing the US. And that’s what you liberals can’t comprehend. When you attack the Constitution and want to eliminate people’s God given freedoms, then it’s beyind criticism.

Hey why don’t we create a license for reporters. Only licensed reporters can post things on the internet because you can cause a lot of violence if you don’t know what you are doing. See how stupid that sounds?

Criticize all you want but stay away from our Constitutional rights.

[colbski]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mu...cid=spartanntp

story is still developing

here we go again guys...

I'm supposed to be moving here.....(lakewood area)


does the altitude f with your brain or what?

[slo0tPatrol]

If the laws are so great, how about we start by enforcing the laws in place? Get the guns out the hands of criminals.

Banning firearms is NOT the answer.

Completely agree, but how is that done, and where can we start? A lot of proposed methods get shut down by both sides. I think banning all weapons is too drastic. Like I said, i own a gun, but I'm indifferent to it. So to the passionate base I'm sure your upset that whenever there's a shooting everyone immediately wants to criminalize gun owners. So what's the best method of keeping guns out of criminals hands when its relativity easy to buy a weapon

[ctprelude]

Wasn't arguing that Chicago doesn't have a gang and poverty problem, but when people throw the whole "What about chicago" "Gun laws there" "insert trope about Chicago gun laws" they don't realize people will just drive 20 minutes to Indiana or Wisconsin and buy guns there, and bring them back. Gun violence here is a systematic issue more than it is a "we're all a bunch of crazies"

Except that people can't buy handguns in a state outside of their residence, unless of course you're referring to illegal face to face sales to people that are already banned from owning/possessing a firearm, which would just go to prove that criminals will get guns regardless of stricter gun laws. Outside of that one minor fact, awesome point bro.

[slo0tPatrol]

Except that people can't buy handguns in a state outside of their residence, unless of course you're referring to illegal face to face sales to people that are already banned from owning/possessing a firearm, which would just go to prove that criminals will get guns regardless of stricter gun laws. Outside of that one minor fact, awesome point bro.

Gun show loophole. Also, some states don't require that guns be registered so who knows who sold them the gun in the first place. No way to stop the source

[Jaroctor]

Every man woman and child needs to open carry minimum a fully automatic or a bazooka. You'll all be safe then.

[jason_bh]

Completely agree, but how is that done, and where can we start? A lot of proposed methods get shut down by both sides. I think banning all weapons is too drastic. Like I said, i own a gun, but I'm indifferent to it. So to the passionate base I'm sure your upset that whenever there's a shooting everyone immediately wants to criminalize gun owners. So what's the best method of keeping guns out of criminals hands when its relativity easy to buy a weapon

I say that LEO's should go into every home of known criminals and start searching for firearms. This should happen all the time and there should be no need for search warrants. Find weapons, take them to jail for 99 years. Also, lock up their family members, friends, etc that are staying in that house.

[jason_bh]

Gun show loophole. Also, some states don't require that guns be registered so who knows who sold them the gun in the first place. No way to stop the source

What is a gun show loophole?

Also, any firearm that is purchased from a federal firearms licensee (gun dealer, gun store, etc) MUST have a background check run on the individual buying the gun.

[slo0tPatrol]

I say that LEO's should go into every home of known criminals and start searching for firearms. This should happen all the time and there should be no need for search warrants. Find weapons, take them to jail for 99 years. Also, lock up their family members, friends, etc that are staying in that house.

People on parole can have their homes searched without a warrant, but not every criminal has a criminal history. That would go against my 4th Amendment right of "...the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." the same way banning all guns would go against our 2nd Amendment right

What is a gun show loophole?

Federal law allows the sale of a firearm at a gun show without doing a background check and do not need to report the sale. So I could go to a gun show, tell the guy "I like your gun, i'll take one pls" and I now own a gun while also paying a premium

[jason_bh]

People on parole can have their homes searched without a warrant, but not every criminal has a criminal history. That would go against my 4th Amendment right of "...the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." the same way banning all guns would go against our 2nd Amendment right

Exactly my point. At what point do we do away with our constitution for everything in the name of safety?

BTW, I was being sarcastic in that post.

[nightmare69]

Gun show loophole. Also, some states don't require that guns be registered so who knows who sold them the gun in the first place. No way to stop the source

Unicorns are real too.

[wasp9166]

certain people just love to argue , you never see them post anything for the lawlz, but if there is a point of view they don't agree with , they come out of the woodwork

[slo0tPatrol]

Exactly my point. At what point do we do away with our constitution for everything in the name of safety?

BTW, I was being sarcastic in that post.

But it just furthers my point that there really isn't a simple answer that everyone can agree on, but we shouldn't just not do anything about it.