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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    hmmm....sounds like exactly what fox news did with Obama for 8 years.
    The MSM absolutely has turned into Fox News for the left. Its funny to watch, particularly after so many people called Fox whacked out and racist all those years. Its funny watching Fox pull back towards the center and the MSM go off the deep end.

    Originally Posted by Trapstar4.4 View Post
    were there any trump aids in the car that can go on the record and say that he didnt say it?
    curious who was all in the area and what everybody recalls.

    either way, trump has to learn how to put out fires, not set news ones everyday. the moment he threw out "well obama and other presidents didnt..." it was over.
    yes most of you will blame the media, but this will continue until he learns to not set fires. or at least if you set one, you do your best to put it out

    the media is not going to change. learn how to play the game
    The media was trying to start a fire, and he was TRYING to put it out before it started. I'm not saying I agree with it, I just know what he was doing. The media was setting him up with the narrative of him not calling the soldiers...evil Trump...this is what president's have done since the beginning of time. George Washington called the family of fallen soldiers. He was trying to get out in front and say "look, calling is MY thing, its not something that is typical of the president to call every damn time. So back the fuk off, and let me handle it." And really it was unfair to be critical of "you haven't called...you haven't called...you haven't called" when calling is not something that has been done on a regular basis in the past.

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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    You would be surprised at how many things the media has taken out of context and/or spun in a totally different direction...if you were actually paying attention. If all you are getting is the sound bites and not actually following the entire thing, you are missing it. GUARANTEED...missing it.
    Was it the media who lied and said that Obama didn't call general Kelly's son or was that taken out of context by the media as well? What about him having the largest electoral college victory ever?

    Trump deserves all the negative coverage he gets. His supporters just have their heads too far up their own ass to see it
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    This is where I'm at. If they would stick to stuff that actually matters and call a spade a spade, I'd be fine with it. Its getting into petty stuff that's irrelevant in order to spin a narrative, or the mental gymnastics used that compels me to speak up.

    Lmao the irony.....
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    Originally Posted by notorius1 View Post
    Was it the media who lied and said that Obama didn't call general Kelly's son or was that taken out of context by the media as well? What about him having the largest electoral college victory ever?

    Trump deserves all the negative coverage he gets. His supporters just have their heads too far up their own ass to see it
    Did Obama call General Kelly after his son died?
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    Originally Posted by ichBinBerliner View Post
    Its like his first impulse is to just lie. Why would he tell the press he has called every family of slain servicemen under his watch? Its easily proven false. so why say it?
    It makes no sense. It doesnt further his agenda at all.
    And his second impulse is to send money to the parents of a dead soldier. Such values this man has.
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    Originally Posted by PSToolman View Post
    And his second impulse is to send money to the parents of a dead soldier. Such values this man has.
    And that's a bad thing?
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    And that's a bad thing?
    It's terrible. "I'm sorry you'll never see whathisname again. But you can have what's in the box that Jay is bringing down the aisle. What's in the box, Jay?"

    "TWENTY FIVE LARGE!"

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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    Did Obama call General Kelly after his son died?
    That's my mistake. I misquoted this article:

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/1...-soldiers.html



    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    Did Obama call General Kelly after his son died?

    Did he have the largest EC victory in us history?
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    Kelly just went in dry on that south FL congress woman
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    Originally Posted by notorius1 View Post

    Did he have the largest EC victory in us history?
    Trump says dumb chit. I don't defend his dumb chit. There is so much of it, that its mind boggling that the MSM feels the need to take him out of context or use mental gymnastics to fit their narrative. I've said it since last year...there is so much low hanging fruit. Why stretch? Why conflate so damn much? Why be so intellectually dishonest? Why a lot of things.
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    Originally Posted by PSToolman View Post
    It's terrible. "I'm sorry you'll never see whathisname again. But you can have what's in the box that Jay is bringing down the aisle. What's in the box, Jay?"

    "TWENTY FIVE LARGE!"

    cheers and applause

    The man has no moral center.
    And once again, I've got an eery feeling that you'd be praising Obama for it. I'm not seeing an issue with this...none.
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    The MSM absolutely has turned into Fox News for the left. Its funny to watch, particularly after so many people called Fox whacked out and racist all those years. Its funny watching Fox pull back towards the center and the MSM go off the deep end.



    The media was trying to start a fire, and he was TRYING to put it out before it started. I'm not saying I agree with it, I just know what he was doing. The media was setting him up with the narrative of him not calling the soldiers...evil Trump...this is what president's have done since the beginning of time. George Washington called the family of fallen soldiers. He was trying to get out in front and say "look, calling is MY thing, its not something that is typical of the president to call every damn time. So back the fuk off, and let me handle it." And really it was unfair to be critical of "you haven't called...you haven't called...you haven't called" when calling is not something that has been done on a regular basis in the past.

    But, such is life.
    why did mr moron have to say other presidents didnt call the families its like he cant help but to lie
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    Originally Posted by drLihp View Post
    why did mr moron have to say other presidents didnt call the families its like he cant help but to lie
    He said they didn't do it as a habit, which they didn't. The press was trying to give him chit for not calling the families of the fallen soldiers, so he was just telling them to pump their brakes its not common practice even though he tries to do it. That was his point.
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    Trump says dumb chit. I don't defend his dumb chit. There is so much of it, that its mind boggling that the MSM feels the need to take him out of context or use mental gymnastics to fit their narrative. I've said it since last year...there is so much low hanging fruit. Why stretch? Why conflate so damn much? Why be so intellectually dishonest? Why a lot of things.
    This is my issue with 'scandals' like this. Trump's a walking headline every week with some retarded thing he's done, no need to give something like this legs. Pick something he actually did or said, there's a ****ing smorgasbord right there.
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    Originally Posted by notorius1 View Post
    Was it the media who lied and said that Obama didn't call general Kelly's son or was that taken out of context by the media as well? What about him having the largest electoral college victory ever?

    Trump deserves all the negative coverage he gets. His supporters just have their heads too far up their own ass to see it
    exactly.

    trump supporters are so brainwashed that they call any negative press "fake news" when the press is factually accurate.

    they literally have no ability to objectively assess the veracity of any news when anti trump headlines are instantly labeled as "fake" even if it's true.

    Originally Posted by PSToolman View Post
    And his second impulse is to send money to the parents of a dead soldier. Such values this man has.
    more like the empty promise to send them money but then not actually send it until the Washington Post calls him out on the hypocrisy.

    he doesn't have a charitable bone in his body.
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    Did Obama call General Kelly after his son died?
    He didn't, Kelly just said so in his WH briefing today:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/kelly-def...203732629.html

    Kelly also said that then-President Barack Obama had not called him when the younger Kelly was killed.
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    Was it the media who lied and said that Obama didn't call general Kelly's son...
    Obama DID NOT call General Kelly after his son was killed. That is a stone cold fact, confirmed by Kelly himself.
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    Kelly just went in dry on that south FL congress woman
    He completely ruined her, and the leftist scum in this thread defending her.

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    Originally Posted by Trapstar4.4 View Post
    were there any trump aids in the car that can go on the record and say that he didnt say it?
    curious who was all in the area and what everybody recalls.

    either way, trump has to learn how to put out fires, not set news ones everyday. the moment he threw out "well obama and other presidents didnt..." it was over.
    yes most of you will blame the media, but this will continue until he learns to not set fires. or at least if you set one, you do your best to put it out

    the media is not going to change. learn how to play the game
    So far, the only person who said the congresswoman lied was Trump.
    The soldiers family confirmed Trump did say that and the others around the call haven’t denied it.

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    THis thread will be very quiet since Kelly made all the critics look like morons, and that congresswoman look like a cold piece of chit
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    We know you're speaking from personal experience.



    hmmm....sounds like exactly what fox news did with Obama for 8 years.




    oh and let's get those investigative committees fired up similar to what was done with Benghazi. 4 Americans died while on the President's watch.
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    Originally Posted by notorius1 View Post
    That's my mistake. I misquoted this article:

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/1...-soldiers.html






    Did he have the largest EC victory in us history?
    Are you talking about Reagan?
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    Originally Posted by Twerk4it View Post
    So far, the only person who said the congresswoman lied was Trump.
    The soldiers family confirmed Trump did say that and the others around the call haven’t denied it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.d57c10ff2e9f
    General Kelly put the entire issue to bed. You look like a damned idiot trying to push back.

    There was nothing wrong with what Trump said at all. In fact, it was nearly the exact same thing said to General Kelly after his son was killed and what he recommended Trump say.
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    Originally Posted by mCheech View Post
    Kelly was amazing wow.
    Incredible speech.

    I mean there's no way of us knowing for sure, but does anyone truly think that Trump really told that wife "He knew what he was getting into" in some sort of annoyed, condescending tone? I'll be the first one to say that the guy's a moron and sucks at public speaking but I find it highly highly unlikely that he would say anything like that, especially since he's been so pro-military. Even Sillie thinks this is a bs story and he's been a huge Trump critic since the beginning.

    Personally I think it's a complete bs story and that congresswoman ought to be ashamed of herself.
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    Originally Posted by John L View Post
    Incredible speech.

    I mean there's no way of us knowing for sure, but does anyone truly think that Trump really told that wife "He knew what he was getting into" in some sort of annoyed, condescending tone? I'll be the first one to say that the guy's a moron and sucks at public speaking but I find it highly highly unlikely that he would say anything like that, especially since he's been so pro-military. Even Sillie thinks this is a bs story and he's been a huge Trump critic since the beginning.

    Personally I think it's a complete bs story and that congresswoman ought to be ashamed of herself.
    He would never do that, no. What made me lose faith was going on ******** and seeing how people can so quicky jump on the hate bandwagon without even seeing the full context of what he said. Nasty people.
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    Originally Posted by QuitYourCrying View Post
    General Kelly put the entire issue to bed. You look like a damned idiot trying to push back.

    There was nothing wrong with what Trump said at all. In fact, it was nearly the exact same thing said to General Kelly after his son was killed and what he recommended Trump say.
    too bad Trump isn't smart or articulate enough to respond the way Kelly did. all trump did was (like normal) was pour gas on a fire, blowing it up.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    too bad Trump isn't smart or articulate enough to respond the way Kelly did. all trump did was (like normal) was pour gas on a fire, blowing it up.
    You know this how? Did the three other family's he call say the same thing? Why is anyone giving this woman the time of day who has voted against the military any chance she could? Do you actually believe she cared about the man that died? LMAO you people are beyond pathetic man.
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    Originally Posted by Twerk4it View Post
    So far, the only person who said the congresswoman lied was Trump.
    The soldiers family confirmed Trump did say that and the others around the call haven’t denied it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.d57c10ff2e9f
    This one is tricky because the words themself are not the issue. They are literally the words that Kelly received when his son was killed. Its the tone and context. The way the congresswoman reported the tone, and slightly changed up the context, makes a big difference. And what she did was for political reasons, which is why Kelly said it made him sick to his stomach after watching her on TV do what she did...and part of what compelled him to speak out. He was there when Trump was making the calls.

    Maybe Kelly is lying, who knows. But I think once Kelly came out on the subject, it put this baby to bed. Trump called a grieving widow and did the best he could. The lady on the other end was so politically motivated she either had a congresswoman listen to the call or contacted her immediately afterwards. Sad. But I guess she can now officially post #resist on her FB page...amirite?
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