"We're saying Merry Christmas again"

[BullittEV]

He has no legislative accomplishments, so he just jingles his keys infront of his base so they'll clap.

Look at this thread. Its working perfectly.

lol you guys just cant help yourselves. Now we're back onto the same old circular argument of what has Trump done. vs What has congress blocked.

Really? Stop going back to square one in every thread. stay on the topic.

I don't give a chit who celebrates what.

[x-trainer ben]

Why does Trump just pick random things that weren’t a big deal or wasn’t even an issue and try to be the champion for it? Watch next month he will start championing “Nobody says good morning anymore, let me tell you I say the best good mornings”.

Because his advisors told him that wedge issues like this will get his base erect. It works too as evidenced by dullblade 83.

[Rayzor84]

Because his advisors told him that wedge issues like this will get his base erect. It works too as evidenced by dullblade 83.

The easiest way to tell when an argument has no merit is when the protagonist mixes in some personal insults

Looks like you belong here with the rest of us hyperbolic, fallacy slinging, ad hominem tossing scoundrels!

[ODBM]

Because his advisors told him that wedge issues like this will get his base erect. It works too as evidenced by dullblade 83.

So, do you disagree that we should be saying Merry Christmas?

[Fronest]

For me it's about family gathering, dinner and grandma's cookies. Gifts are pretty modest since there's nothing I need that I don't already have. Same with family members.

Christmas can be about consumerism if you make it so. I choose not to participate in that.

In your original post you mentioned that Christmas is an important aspect of American tradition and culture. Why do you think that is? Christmas is a shortened version of Christ's mass, and is at its core completely religious. If you are not celebrating Christmas for its intended purpose, then you are responsible for its dilution.

[zinkhan99]

Gotta love it how the left always defends the ridiculous **** far progressive left does and at the same time doesn't acknowledge anything what is happening. As far as the thread goes - good to see Christian values and traditions being preserved for a change. It seemed to absolutely be a problem for the group previously mentioned, and the whole "we are saying Merry Christmas again" is not just about saying Merry Christmas, but strengthening Christian traditions that were portrayed as negative and rejected from the public domain by the far left. Try to catch up, you all sound painfully slow, and sometimes it feels like talking to 5th graders.

[x-trainer ben]

The easiest way to tell when an argument has no merit is when the protagonist mixes in some personal insults

Looks like you belong here with the rest of us hyperbolic, fallacy slinging, ad hominem tossing scoundrels!

No you just assumed I meant you because of your thin skin. Don't be such a girly man.

[ODBM]

In your original post you mentioned that Christmas is an important aspect of American tradition and culture. Why do you think that is? Christmas is a shortened version of Christ's mass, and is at its core completely religious. If you are not celebrating Christmas for its intended purpose, then you are responsible for its dilution.

Belief isn't a choice; I can't choose to believe in God. Celebrating Christmas minus church is still better than not celebrating it, or celebrating something else. Those two things are actually choices!

[x-trainer ben]

So, do you disagree that we should be saying Merry Christmas?

People should say whatever the fk they want to say to others, I just take the lazy approach and say MC because I don't care. This is a non issue for those that have real lives!

[Rayzor84]

People should say whatever the fk they want to say to others, I just take the lazy approach and say MC because I don't care. This is a non issue for those that have real lives!

A non issue yet u posted many times itt, u can't stop putting your foot in your mouth lol

[Audioslave]

Christmas is an important part of American tradition and culture, and I'm not even religious. It's important that we do not forget who we are, and it's important that we do not dilute ourselves by making widespread efforts to absorb and express foreign cultures. Same for Thanksgiving, Independence Day, etc.

I have never felt like Christmas has been diluted (at least not where I am from). In all honesty, I feel like Christmas is constantly getting stronger year after year because it is such an important marketing tool. When I was younger it seemed like Christmas lasted a few days. Today, I feel like we are hit with Christmas decorations and commercials before Thanksgiving even starts.

If Christmas is about "family gathering, dinner and grandma's cookies" to you, then you have more in common with Jews and people of other faiths than you think. A lot of them view Hanukkah the exact same way you see Christmas. You would probably like Fesivus the most because it is the most similar to Christmas but without the consumerism that you don't partake in.

[Fronest]

Belief isn't a choice; I can't choose to believe in God. Celebrating Christmas minus church is still better than not celebrating it, or celebrating something else. Those two things are actually choices!

No, you can't choose whether or not to believe in God, but you can choose whether or not you will respect the tradition and culture of your forebears by celebrating Christmas for its intended purpose. If you want to celebrate gluttony and consumerism, by all means. However, if you want to celebrate Christmas, attend church, feed and clothe the poor. You don't have to be a man of conviction to do good deeds.

[Muzzlrpress]

In your original post you mentioned that Christmas is an important aspect of American tradition and culture. Why do you think that is? Christmas is a shortened version of Christ's mass, and is at its core completely religious. If you are not celebrating Christmas for its intended purpose, then you are responsible for its dilution.

Dilution? The holiday itself is a mesh of several traditions combined. Wasn't even a holiday for almost 100 years after the nation's founding. The way it is celebrated is all over the place, but that just means people enjoy the holiday in their own way. It has something for everyone and brings people together. Christmas is fine and nobody wants it gone, not even happy holiday people.

[ODBM]

you have more in common with Jews

Literally the most insulting thing anyone has ever said to me.

Anyway, Christmas is also strong here and never has been significantly diluted, but that's only because I live in the very religious south. I even remember as a child that Nickelodeon ran a long seasonal special about "Merry Hannukwanzakamas" or some garbage like that. Didn't think much of it at the time, but now I'm old enough to value Christmas as being less about presents and more about my culture.

No, you can't choose whether or not to believe in God, but you can choose whether or not you will respect the tradition and culture of your forebears by celebrating Christmas for its intended purpose. If you want to celebrate gluttony and consumerism, by all means. However, if you want to celebrate Christmas, attend church, feed and clothe the poor. You don't have to be a man of conviction to do good deeds.

The poor can clothe themselves with hard work and abstinence from drugs and alcohol. Not sure what point you're trying to make since I celebrate Christmas. As you trying to sell me on Christianity, or are you saying that you can't have Christmas without church? Because that sounds an awful lot like the religious forcefulness from which our European ancestors fled.

[x-trainer ben]

A non issue yet u posted many times itt, u can't stop putting your foot in your mouth lol

Gramps, you can't recall who said what, maybe you should take a break from posting.

[PSToolman]

Dilution? The holiday itself is a mesh of several traditions combined. Wasn't even a holiday for almost 100 years after the nation's founding. The way it is celebrated is all over the place, but that just means people enjoy the holiday in their own way. It has something for everyone and brings people together. Christmas is fine and nobody wants it gone, not even happy holiday people.

They just want to make it another way to score political points. We love Christmas so they must hate it.

[Audioslave]

Literally the most insulting thing anyone has ever said to me.

Anyway, Christmas is also strong here and never has been significantly diluted, but that's only because I live in the very religious south. I even remember as a child that Nickelodeon ran a long seasonal special about "Merry Hannukwanzakamas" or some garbage like that. Didn't think much of it at the time, but now I'm old enough to value Christmas as being less about presents and more about my culture.

Sorry buddy, the truth sometimes hurts.

Well I live in the very non-religious north, and here I guess you can say that Jews celebrate Christmas and Christians celebrate Hanukkah, etc. Why? Because no one really cares about religion. We just want to hang out, drink, and eat.

[Fronest]

Dilution? The holiday itself is a mesh of several traditions combined. Wasn't even a holiday for almost 100 years after the nation's founding. The way it is celebrated is all over the place, but that just means people enjoy the holiday in their own way. It has something for everyone and brings people together. Christmas is fine and nobody wants it gone, not even happy holiday people.

The modern mesh you are witnessing is the result of centuries of dilution, and we have not seen the end of it. At its core however, Christmas is strictly religious, and what most people celebrate today is simply gluttony and consumerism in disguise.

[Muzzlrpress]

The modern mesh you are witnessing is the result of centuries of dilution, and we have not seen the end of it. At its core however, Christmas is strictly religious, and what most people celebrate today is simply gluttony and consumerism in disguise.

So instead of gifts, feasts, and drinking, you'd prefer we all go to church, pray, and go home?

[Audioslave]

The modern mesh you are witnessing is the result of centuries of dilution, and we have not seen the end of it. At its core however, Christmas is strictly religious, and what most people celebrate today is simply gluttony and consumerism in disguise.

I wouldn't even say that the gluttony and consumerism is even in disguise any more. Businesses have made Christmas into what it is today, which is why it is still so powerful. The second it can no longer be used for profit, then you have to worry about it dying in culture.

[gharamlifter]

***only say 'Happy Holidays' crew***

[Fronest]

So instead of gifts, feasts, and drinking, you'd prefer we all go to church, pray, and go home?

Attend church, pray (not a requisite for the irreligious), feed and clothe the poor. It's a christian holiday of remembrance and worship, and if you do not intend to keep it within christian boundaries, it would be favorable to stay clear.

[SillieBazzillie]

Like I've said tons of times, anything except left looks alt right to liberals. Centrists, moderates, independents are all conservatives in a liberals mind. That's a big part of the social dysfunction among you retards.

I call out right wing idiocy also but honestly the left outdoes itself daily on moronic new lows so it's way too easy, making me look right wing. The right still has values and stable platforms albeit some dumb ideas but the left is deranged and wide open.

You believe saying Merry Christmas over Happy Holidays is a centrist position?

Unlikely bro.

[Muzzlrpress]

Attend church, pray (not a requisite for the irreligious), feed and clothe the poor. It's a christian holiday of remembrance and worship, and if you do not intend to keep it within christian boundaries, it would be favorable to stay clear.

Something tells me you don't know a lot about the origin of Christmas.

[SillieBazzillie]

From now on, all I'm saying is Happy Holidays. Hopefully I'll be triggering Trumpers on the daily.

[dakensta]

I never stopped saying it

Neither did most people, but you didn't hear about them.

[ODBM]

From now on, all I'm saying is Happy Holidays. Hopefully I'll be triggering Trumpers on the daily.

Will you stand for the anthem when you are out in public?

[Fronest]

Something tells me you don't know a lot about the origin of Christmas.

If you are referring to Yule or other pagan elements then that is not Christmas (Christ's Mass). Those are simply old elements of the aforementioned dilution.

[SillieBazzillie]

Will you stand for the anthem when you are out in public?

Always did, always will.

[x-trainer ben]

Will you stand for the anthem when you are out in public?

Wouldn't he have to be at a sports event?