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    Originally Posted by MiscInformed View Post
    Absolutely.

    Chubby boxer vs. skinny, manlet kickboxer. Once the skinny manlet gets the range correct for his kicks, it's lights out.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvQFy18dp04

    Skip to about 1:50 for the KO.

    It's not a streetfight, but the idea is the same.
    you're right about one thing, this definitely isnt a street fight.
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    your a fukking clown lmao.

    i don't like/follow boxing or mma but just lmao if you think there haven't been boxers that have gotten knocked about by normal dudes as well..

    boxers have beat the chit out of normal people and gotten the chit beat out of them, same with mma fighters.

    and as far as bully beatdown goes, those are like D level fighters no one's ever heard of, its not like they're putting them in the ring vs top fighters
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    the best self defense is any form you can calmly use to effectively disable the threat. There can be no blanket statement that one is better than the other.
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    Originally Posted by somfking View Post
    your a fukking clown lmao.

    i don't like/follow boxing or mma but just lmao if you think there haven't been boxers that have gotten knocked about by normal dudes as well..

    boxers have beat the chit out of normal people and gotten the chit beat out of them, same with mma fighters.

    and as far as bully beatdown goes, those are like D level fighters no one's ever heard of, its not like they're putting them in the ring vs top fighters





    no really, who are you talking to? you didn't quote anyone lol
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    Originally Posted by rainieravesouth View Post
    [img]https://media.tenor.com/images/0e06bdc207663fa0cae2a13fcb291f4e/tenor.gif[/mg]




    no really, who are you talking to? you didn't quote anyone lol
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    I think we should approach this like we approach fitness.....there's no 1 best catch-all approach to it. It will depend on who/how many you're fighting, who intercedes, and the specific situation.
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    Originally Posted by bjjnovice View Post
    wow... most delusion ITT from a bunch of retards that have never trained to fight a day in their lives. Vast majority of fights go to the ground. Any elite world class boxer would have the living chit beaten out of him by a high school wrestler. Fact.
    100 % true but if you look at it from a self defense perspective , boxing is the goat.
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    Originally Posted by Aesthetical View Post
    Kickboxing > Both

    Lol at being a hot shot street boxer and getting kicked in the face
    Find me a video of a kick boxer KO'ing 4+ people with kicks like we have of a boxer. Or even just 2 people. Theres multiple no name boxers on video doing that including tiny old men.

    I wont even give you the practical disadvantage of kicking into your older age. Just find me a kickboxer KO'ing multiple people rushing him with kicks.

    Go Ahead I'll wait.

    Find me a kickboxer KO'ing a robber with a weapon with a kick, not even an old kickboxer.

    Go ahead I'll wait


    Lmao the chin is the biggest human weakpoint. It will never stop being the most practical deadliest form of neutralizing a threat on the street as quick as possible with minimal risk. Especially vs weapons or multiple opponents aka 99% of potential street situations. When are you goofy *******s going to learn?

    60yr old small boxers have KO'ed guys by exploiting this weakness. Lmao at these ooga booga kung fu *******s denying this one giant weakness in humans and the giant relevancy it has in real life street life or death situations not MMA jerkoff daydream scenarios.




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    Originally Posted by rainieravesouth View Post
    you're right about one thing, this definitely isnt a street fight.
    Yeah, I know this fight would have ended much sooner if it were a streetfight. What I was trying to show was how the kick boxer whiffed on his headkicks early, but once he got the range, it was a 1-kick KO time. Maybe not the best video to demonstrate it if you view the whole thing, but if you skip to 1:50 you can see how it catches the boxer unprepared.
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    Anyone well trained in most combat sports will do well in a street fight.
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    Originally Posted by MiscInformed View Post
    Yeah, I know this fight would have ended much sooner if it were a streetfight. What I was trying to show was how the kick boxer whiffed on his headkicks early, but once he got the range, it was a 1-kick KO time. Maybe not the best video to demonstrate it if you view the whole thing, but if you skip to 1:50 you can see how it catches the boxer unprepared.
    because i think this match was a no holds barred type of fight. it just happened to be a boxer vs muay thai fighter.

    on the streets, the element of surprise is probably someones biggest weapon. if you hit them with something they aren't used to, its probably over

    muay thai beats boxer who beats a sport BJJ competitor who beats a wrestler who beat the muay thai fighter
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    Originally Posted by thc sargon View Post
    Didn't read your whole post. 90% of fights go to the ground. MMA is the closest thing to real life.
    Most fights do not goto the ground... And if they do good luck not getting head stomped by his mate.... Btw try and choke someone and they gonna gouge your eye or yank your balls.
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    So how can I safely learn boxing for self defense without getting brain damage? srs
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    Originally Posted by rainieravesouth View Post
    because i think this match was a no holds barred type of fight. it just happened to be a boxer vs muay thai fighter.

    on the streets, the element of surprise is probably someones biggest weapon. if you hit them with something they aren't used to, its probably over

    muay thai beats boxer who beats a sport BJJ competitor who beats a wrestler who beat the muay thai fighter
    I think so too. I'm a big fan of everybody learning to box. I also think in a streetfight, the boxer is not going to know he's up against a kick boxer until the kickboxer tips his hand. How is the boxer going to defend against a surprise spinning wheel kick when he's expecting a punch? That's my argument for kickboxer > boxer (of same skill levels). I'm not really strongly opinionated about this though. I just think it's a weapon very few people have experience against. MMA fighters? Yes. Boxers? No.


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    BTW, looking for vids for this thread sent me down a youtube rabbithole which reminded me just how much I despise sucker punchers. It's a cowardly tactic and what's worse is they act like they won due to skill.

    Bunch of slack jawed *******s.


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    Watched that spinning wheel kick thing. Kickers get ****ed up if people you know, step forward and push them to the ground lmao.
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    Let me know when you find 71 year old manlet muai thai/BJJ/Sambo/TKD/Wrestling/Kickboxing/krav maga/tiger showman karate guy in his slippers KO'ing a 6'4 guy like he just interupted his favorite episode of M.A.S.H. I'll wait.



























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    Originally Posted by MiscInformed View Post
    Absolutely.

    Chubby boxer vs. skinny, manlet kickboxer. Once the skinny manlet gets the range correct for his kicks, it's lights out.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvQFy18dp04

    Skip to about 1:50 for the KO.

    It's not a streetfight, but the idea is the same.
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    So how can I safely learn boxing for self defense without getting brain damage? srs
    Yea this^

    I wanna have teh deadly handz, but care to much about my big beautiful brain to let some ******* punch it.
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    Originally Posted by bjjnovice View Post
    Any elite world class boxer would have the living chit beaten out of him by a high school wrestler. Fact.
    Lol you got this from retard Joe Rogan. He legit said that word for word. LMAO at quoting retard Joe Rogan
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    If only they used boxing in MMA...
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    inb4 OP has never been in an actual fight in his life.
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    Originally Posted by bjjnovice View Post
    wow... most delusion ITT from a bunch of retards that have never trained to fight a day in their lives. Vast majority of fights go to the ground. Any elite world class boxer would have the living chit beaten out of him by a high school wrestler. Fact.
    That's just a statement the Gracie's use to fool people into thinking their system is the be all end all for self defense , it's not I mean ffs they use Royce Gracie's UFC fight as the paradigm for an actual street fight when it wasn't even close to that .
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    The best skill for real life street situations is your running ability. Keeping your ego in check and knowing when to walk away is the most practical skill you can have.That being said I think the vast majority of MMA techniques are rendered void in a street fight.
    The last thing you want to do is go to the ground. I mean rolling around on the hard pavement trying to armbar some idiot while his buddies stomp on your head seems like an stupid idea. Not to mention the dude is trying to gouge your eyes out.

    I remember watching the ultimate fighter show a long time ago. Two guys got drunk and started fighting. One guy pulled guard and tried to triangle choke the other guy. The guy being chocked just lifted the other guy off the ground and slammed his head on to the pavement and it was over.
    Also throwing high kicks makes no sense because it is too risky to throw yourself off balance like that. Trying to kick above the waist with pants on is just too awkward. I can see the case being made for low kicks the legs though.

    I've seen a lot of streets fights, both online videos and real life. I think the most successful guys are ones who are super aggressive who know how to box. Because it takes a second for someone to realize what is happening after the first punch. The person who comes out the gate non stop throwing seems to always win the fight.
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    Originally Posted by residesinAZ View Post
    If only they used boxing in MMA...




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    Mcgregor is a Z-level local boxer from ireland that went to the UFC and now looks like neo from the matrix while sleeping glasschinned wrestlers with his pillow marshmellow taps Even I was mindblown at how pitifully soft the fairy slaps he were throwing against floyd were. Dude made floyd look like marvin hagler.

    Garbrandt is another Q level local boxer looking like a dbz fighter against the stiff hobos in the UFC LOL.
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    90% of street fights go to the ground only if the 2 ***gots fighting train mma.

    In 90% of fights, men are fighting like men, not diving into the inviting spread eagle of another man. If someone ends up on the ground, he's getting stomped on, not cuddled with.
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    Originally Posted by badbart View Post
    Anyone well trained in most combat sports will do well in a street fight.
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    Originally Posted by FlabbyAndSick View Post
    90% of street fights go to the ground only if the 2 ***gots fighting train mma.

    In 90% of fights, men are fighting like men, not diving into the inviting spread eagle of another man. If someone ends up on the ground, he's getting stomped on, not cuddled with.

    The only times I have seen fights go the ground is when the fight is already over and the winner is being a scumbag stomping on the dude's head or soccer kicking him. This is why pride was the goat. As soon as some wrassler failed his take down, he would be greeted with kicks to the face.
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