Females are truly different creatures

[AhDo]

How can it be possible to relate to and understand people who have everything they want in their sex and relationship life?

From my viewpoint, girls enjoy being hit on and girls are attracted to people who are nice to them (because I would be interested in any girl who is nice to me).

This is coming from the frame where no girls are interested in me.

It is almost impossible to understand what it is like to be able to have so much abundance.

I can't predict how it would feel or what would attract a girl if she has all that abundance.

So I will be beta around females because I can't act in the right way around them to attract them, because I can't understand them.

[epidox01]

From my viewpoint, girls enjoy being hit on and girls are attracted to people who are nice to them (because I would be interested in any girl who is nice to me)\

no duh sherlock
people like people who make them feel good. and hitting on and being nice to someone is an act of validation and approval.
it's not rocket science; you don't need to write a fukking thesis on your new-found revelation.

[Land_Down_Under]

men are from mars, women are from uranus. u expect to understand them op?

[CodyZellery]

Why don't you go to ******* or a site like that OP? There you will find more brahs like you.

[Rabbitjb]

That is almost perfect in its victimhood

People like people who like them
Nobody likes me
I shall LDAR

Learn social skills

[BostonRockets]

Women will also never be able to relate with man on how much burden is added on their lives to attract the opposite sex.

Think of how much time men spend working or trying to build wealth to be attractive in the female eye. We're talking YEARS not minutes or hours here.

[hoganrulz]

theyre from venus mayne, we're from mars. i like them squishy. wat.

[Letthemcome]

That is almost perfect in its victimhood

People like people who like them
Nobody likes me
I shall LDAR

Learn social skills

and as you can see here, their lack of empathy is disgusting.

[Rabbitjb]

and as you can see here, their lack of empathy is disgusting.

Oh the power of having a quick forum post represent 3.2 billion people

[BeastModeFTW]

this is how you attract girls:

[RC2008]

A woman's true challenge is getting a man they want to hang around. A difficult feat since the men they want are usually desired by other women. And even more paradoxical since they only want men who are desired by other women. Hence the reason so many of them are single.

[Letthemcome]

Oh the power of having a quick forum post represent 3.2 billion people

we see it all the time you stupid ****, women refuse to even so much as concede how much better they have it in dating

[Rabbitjb]

we see it all the time you stupid ****, women refuse to even so much as concede how much better they have it in dating

If I conceded that it is easier to be the hunted than the hunter would that make you happy?

Women are the selectors...never said they weren't ...

It's easier when you're looking at the concept of first contact and/or sex because men go after physical generally. But pretty much matched in difficulty if looking for a worthwhile relationship

[RC2008]

If I conceded that it is easier to be the hunted than the hunter would that make you happy?

Women are the selectors...never said they weren't ...

It's easier when you're looking at the concept of first contact and/or sex because men go after physical generally. But pretty much matched in difficulty if looking for a worthwhile relationship

Making a man hang around with whom they want to be with is where it really becomes difficult. Social media and Tinder has made things significantly worse because women interpret men giving them attention and sexually charged comments as a confirmation that they are SIGNIFICANTLY better than they actually are. Slippery slope.

The social media and Tinder high is a very dangerous thing for women.

[Letthemcome]

If I conceded that it is easier to be the hunted than the hunter would that make you happy?

Women are the selectors...never said they weren't ...

It's easier when you're looking at the concept of first contact and/or sex because men go after physical generally. But pretty much matched in difficulty if looking for a worthwhile relationship

yeah.. i'm not dumb enough to engage in this argument with you sweetheart. look at you already trying to include your buts and rationalise it away.

[Rabbitjb]

Making a man hang around with whom they want to be with is where it really becomes difficult. Social media and Tinder has made things significantly worse because women interpret men giving them attention and sexually charged comments as a confirmation that they are SIGNIFICANTLY better than they actually are. Slippery slope.

The social media and Tinder high is a very dangerous thing for women.

Agree completely ...social media and instant connection is a very dangerous thing for society as a whole.

It's fracturing the western world into much more distinct stratas than the social classes but there seems to be a rise of rejection of vacuousness in some circles so there's hope

[Rabbitjb]

yeah.. i'm not dumb enough to engage in this argument with you sweetheart. look at you already trying to include your buts and rationalise it away.

Sweetheart
Honeybunch
Don't underestimate yourself

[AhDo]

Women will also never be able to relate with man on how much burden is added on their lives to attract the opposite sex.

Think of how much time men spend working or trying to build wealth to be attractive in the female eye. We're talking YEARS not minutes or hours here.

that's why women are overachieving men in education. They don't have to spend time and effort finding parties or satisfying their sexual and intimacy needs.

[Nicklol]

we see it all the time you stupid ****, women refuse to even so much as concede how much better they have it in dating

this

[imperialmisc]

That is almost perfect in its victimhood

People like people who like them
Nobody likes me
I shall LDAR

Learn social skills

I Srs don't understand why you post. None of your posts I've seen are helpful and you're condescending/demeaning, why? Do you get off on the attention? You realize this is a male-dominated forum, if you aren't going to be helpful then pls go. You don't even have any glow to make this thread worthwhile. And yes negged

[wincel]

Girls basically aren't even people bro. They don't feel the same way. They are shallow creatures. Their ambitions are shallow, their needs are shallow, their lives are shallow. There is nothing going on up there. Most of them will never know real pain and suffering nor will they ever comprehend true joy or love. They are generally physically and mentally weak succubi, soulless and heartless, ever searching for the next Chad or beta upon whom to feed.

[Rabbitjb]

I Srs don't understand why you post. None of your posts I've seen are helpful and you're condescending/demeaning, why? Do you get off on the attention? You realize this is a male-dominated forum, if you aren't going to be helpful then pls go. You don't even have any glow to make this thread worthwhile. And yes negged

Oh dear, now I'm hurt to the core

[RC2008]

that's why women are overachieving men in education. They don't have to spend time and effort finding parties or satisfying their sexual and intimacy needs.

Definitely a lot of truth to this...

[Maatkarah]

And even more paradoxical since they only want men who are desired by other women.

Saw a post from a guy on here saying men want attractive gf's that they're proud to have on their arm and that other men want/envy them for .. do you reckon he's not representative?

(Cause obv., if he is, both sexes want people other people want.
In fact simply by being attractive enough to attract you, since looks are v important to most men, she would be wanted by other men too, wouldn't she).



Edit: should add I'm referring to dating/relationships here; obv with just sex some men would get with women they may not think are desirable, just for the sex.

How can it be possible to relate to and understand people who have everything they want in their sex and relationship life?

From my viewpoint, girls enjoy being hit on and girls are attracted to people who are nice to them (because I would be interested in any girl who is nice to me).

This is coming from the frame where no girls are interested in me.

It is almost impossible to understand what it is like to be able to have so much abundance.

I can't predict how it would feel or what would attract a girl if she has all that abundance.

So I will be beta around females because I can't act in the right way around them to attract them, because I can't understand them.

Due to own personal situation, OP speaks as though all girls have abundance and no men do; whereas in fact;

> some guys have abundance
> others "do all right" (as one attractive manlet told me once), and
> a portion have a v hard time.**

Likewise some girls have abundance, some median, and some are considered low desirability and have few opportunities.

Note: am talking about dating here; not no-strings sex. If a woman will free-prostitute herself for no strings sex, of course she will have abundance, but it's not real abundance; it's pump and dump on repeat and it's not what the vast majority of women want or are made happy by.

** Real question is what can OP and other guys do to improve their situation. Most people are not conventionally ugly (and sometimes even conventionally ugly people do all right) .. most fall in the middle range looks-wise, so it's down to attitude, understanding of social dynamics, being well-adjusted, personality etc.

[mcity23]

and as you can see here, their lack of empathy is disgusting.

Couldn't agree more. There are some exceptions. I don't consider myself misogynistic at all, but virtually every girl I've come across has gone on about how they're too nice and could never hurt anyone... get to know them better and realise they are the most manipulative people you've ever met. I'm not saying all girls are like that.

But it's pretty obvious whether unconsciously or by design, many women are super hypocritical. They'll be like "guys are such dicks" when Chad doesn't reciprocate their advances. Meanwhile they're scrolling through tinder and going "ew ugly, ugly, what's wrong with your head, indian, asian, manlet, etc." Same goes for all the other guys hitting on them irl who they reject

[mcity23]

Sweetheart
Honeybunch
Don't underestimate yourself

Oh dear, now I'm hurt to the core

I'm not trying to start an argument with you. But you do realise your sarcastic and condascending tone can really push some guys over the edge yeah? There are so many guys who are legit struggling with depression and their confidence about looks, money, etc. and can't get a girl.

Baiting them with ****posts like this may be the tipping point for someone to kill themselves or go on a rampage. I don't understand what you're trying to achieve with this air of superiority? There's just no need for this ****.

[Maatkarah]

I'm not trying to start an argument with you. But you do realise your sarcastic and condascending tone can really push some guys over the edge yeah? There are so many guys who are legit struggling with depression and their confidence about looks, money, etc. and can't get a girl.

Baiting them with ****posts like this may be the tipping point for someone to kill themselves or go on a rampage. I don't understand what you're trying to achieve with this air of superiority? There's just no need for this ****.

She's responding to his neg and insults - not to the OP's situation.
She does try to help people on here; I've seen it in plenty of posts.

Learn social skills

This was her answer and she's correct in my book.
Long-term posters on here are just way more blunt and harsh due to the repetitive nature of these posters/posts. Fu$l is the same (harsher in fact) and he's a guy. Is he also a bish with no empathy?

The problem with this answer (essentially the same as mine) is that it's not an easy fix.

[Rexcalibr]

For fuks sake, women have just as many issues as guys. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and see people as people.

[Vawx]

It is almost impossible to understand what it is like to be able to have so much abundance.

I can't predict how it would feel or what would attract a girl if she has all that abundance.

So I will be beta around females because I can't act in the right way around them to attract them, because I can't understand them.

This is why you treat them like normal people and go from there

I've met 9/10 fitness models who are immediately super friendly to me and smile and act like regular people and I've met amateur bikini girls with 1,000 followers (nobodies) who act like stuck up kunts

When you meet a girl for the first time you have no idea if she's attracted to you but if she acts like a bitch it's probably just because she's actually a fuking bitch