olympus labs Re1gn

[mikaveli06]

https://www.stack3d.com/2017/06/olympus-labs-reign.html

Thought this should have own thread. I will be trying.

Anyone have detailed info on flavors? I seen the names, but have no idea what they mean lol

[VaughnTrue]

https://www.stack3d.com/2017/06/olympus-labs-reign.html

Thought this should have own thread. I will be trying.

Anyone have detailed info on flavors? I seen the names, but have no idea what they mean lol

looks like a pretty interesting formula. definitely VERY high stimmed, so it's a hell yes or a hell no for most users on here.

I like the inclusion of sceletium, we use it in Hemav02 max, great ingredient

[Farley1324]

https://www.stack3d.com/2017/06/olympus-labs-reign.html

Thought this should have own thread. I will be trying.

Anyone have detailed info on flavors? I seen the names, but have no idea what they mean lol

Apparently it may/is likely to have a form of Y so I'd be the

looks like a pretty interesting formula. definitely VERY high stimmed, so it's a hell yes or a hell no for most users on here.

I like the inclusion of sceletium, we use it in Hemav02 max, great ingredient

hell no if it has Y or anything that has the effects of Y

[VaughnTrue]

Apparently it may/is likely to have a form of Y so I'd be the



hell no if it has Y or anything that has the effects of Y

I don't hate on Y personally, but I know a lot of people aren't huge fans. I feel you

[kissdadookie]

Apparently it may/is likely to have a form of Y so I'd be the



hell no if it has Y or anything that has the effects of Y

It's yohimbine, the source being extracted from c. macroceras but the active and main target alkaloid they are extracting for is yohimbine. Other possible alkaloids that came along for the ride may or may not do anything but all the known benefits of consuming c. macroceras has been due to the yohimbine (stimulatory effects, aphrodisiac, etc.).

Kind of like if you read a label and it says green tea extracted for caffeine. What that really says is that it's caffeine that came from green tea, but it's basically caffeine :P The Vaso6 is epicatechins, more specifically it's ECGC.

[BenBlue]

Hell yes from me, but depends on this Stim X and Vaso 6. If they do what they're supposed to, gonna be one hell of a ride. I have not been enjoying Y lately, but I think amount is an important distinction. Most products have small amounts that most users have no issues with. Its when the dosages start getting into the higher ranges that it becomes a problem for me, personally, and most other users I've chatted with. Most products containing Y have pretty trace amounts, and I wouldn't be dismissing Stim X until some user experience starts coming in. In any case, the profile is one of the more unique ones to come out in a while. I think it's gonna boil down to user feedback for lots of folk. I, for one, am willing to be the guinea pig on a BOGO release.

[TommyTuffGuy]

Hell Yes.

Olympus Labs makes some excellent products.

[VO2Maxima]

Anyone have detailed info on flavors? I seen the names, but have no idea what they mean lol

Flavor discussion begins around 8:00:


If you don't want to watch the long video:
ISEE Fury is a sweet cherry slushie flavour
Area 51 is our sour mystery flavor
Dragons Mist is a sweet freezie flavour
Lions Blood is a tropical citrus flavour
KrusherZ is a sweet orange candy flavour

[OT2000]

I like the inclusion of sceletium, we use it in Hemav02 max, great ingredient

Never understood why iForce would use that for a non stim pre. But in general I like the OG H2 not the newest version.

[VO2Maxima]

Just to post it in here:


Also, since I assume there will be some questions about Vaso6, this is from the write-up:

Vaso6™ is a gallate-enhanced oligomer made up of dimers, trimers, tetramers and pentamers that is a powerful stimulator of nitric oxide production. It can be derived from the extracts of grape seed or green tea. Research has shown that extracts of grape seeds (GSE) causes endothelium dependent relaxation (EDR) activity in vitro. EDR activity involves the release of endothelial nitric oxide (NO) release and subsequent increase in cyclic guanosine monophosphate (GMP) levels in the vascular smooth muscle cells ultimately increasing vasodilation and blood flow. So why not just use grape seed extract which is inexpensive and widely available? Because Vaso6™ only contains the components of GSE that are EDR active, meaning it only contains the components that will improve blood flow.
Further study into the isolation and characterization of GSE identified the extract was separated into seven fractions (A–G). Only fractions (D–G) were EDR-active so they were further separated into 25 individual compound peaks by high performance liquid chromatography (HPLC), 16 of which were EDR active. Analysis of these 16 peaks identified Procyanidin content, which are oligomeric compounds formed from catechin and epicatechin molecules, hence the reason we refer to it as Superior Epicatechin. Peak G6, a trimeric procyanidin gallate, was identified as the peak that had the highest EDR activity. Vaso6™ contains only the peaks and fractions of GSE with the highest EDR activity including peak G6, hence the name Vaso6™.
That is not all Vaso6™ provides; the gallate-enhanced catechins activate the enzyme eNOS to produce NO. The enhancement of blood flow caused by Vaso6™ improves the shuttling of glucose, insulin and other nutrients to metabolic targets. Glucose and nutrient uptake is a critical step to activating muscle protein synthesis. Therefore, you want the extreme vasodilation that Vaso6™ provides prior to your workout. Furthermore, Nitric Oxide mediates muscle hypertrophy. Upon mechanical loading, NO reacts with superoxide to generate peroxynitrite. The latter then activates the TRPV1 (transient receptor potential cation channel subfamily V member 1) channel, causing an increase in intracellular Ca2+ levels via release from the sarcoplasmatic reticulum. Such elevation causes an increase in protein synthesis through TORC1 activation. Recent studies demonstrate that NO-synthase participates in the regulation of protein and energy metabolism in skeletal muscle by fine-tuning and stabilizing complex signaling systems which regulate protein synthesis and degradation.
NOS activation during muscle stretching or resisting exercise initiates proliferation of G0-satellite cells. Released NO passes through the sarcolemma, and activates hepatocyte growth factor (HGF) through the activity of matrix metalloproteinases. Activated HGF interacts with c-met receptors of satellite cells, promoting their entrance into the cell cycle. Therefore, during resistance exercises NO works as an activator and as a regulator of signaling, and as a trigger of muscle hypertrophy. The end result is a functional pump!

[kissdadookie]

They at least used a studied dose of EGCG. Still, it's EGCG, smh at finding the need to give it a fancy name in order to make it sound like it's novel and new.

[BenBlue]

Flavor discussion begins around 8:00:


If you don't want to watch the long video:
ISEE Fury is a sweet cherry slushie flavour
Area 51 is our sour mystery flavor
Dragons Mist is a sweet freezie flavour
Lions Blood is a tropical citrus flavour
KrusherZ is a sweet orange candy flavour

Sounds awesome, excited to try.

[VO2Maxima]

They at least used a studied dose of EGCG. Still, it's EGCG, smh at finding the need to give it a fancy name in order to make it sound like it's novel and new.

Because simply calling it EGCG without any further explanation is selling it short. Vaso6 is from grape seed and green tea so technically yes, it is EGCG, but it's only the peaks & fractions that have the highest EDR activity. It's not like you could take regular EGCG and it would do the same thing.

[kissdadookie]

Because simply calling it EGCG without any further explanation is selling it short. Vaso6 is from grape seed and green tea so technically yes, it is EGCG, but it's only the peaks & fractions that have the highest EDR activity. It's not like you could take regular EGCG and it would do the same thing.

The study using 300 mg on humans did use regular EGCG @ 300 mg. You guys dosed it at 300 mg and most likely based the dosing on the available data. So yes, you take regular EGCG @ 300 mg and it would do the same thing because that's what the data shows.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3773609/

[Synapsin]

It's yohimbine, the source being extracted from c. macroceras but the active and main target alkaloid they are extracting for is yohimbine. Other possible alkaloids that came along for the ride may or may not do anything but all the known benefits of consuming c. macroceras has been due to the yohimbine (stimulatory effects, aphrodisiac, etc.).

Kind of like if you read a label and it says green tea extracted for caffeine. What that really says is that it's caffeine that came from green tea, but it's basically caffeine :P The Vaso6 is epicatechins, more specifically it's ECGC.

Just because you can use google doesn't mean you know what's in the product :S

[VaughnTrue]

Just because you can use google doesn't mean you know what's in the product :S

if its something unique, why not tell people what it is? srs question here, not trying to hate...just dont get why thered be any secrets/withheld information when innovation is being claimed

[Synapsin]

if its something unique, why not tell people what it is? srs question here, not trying to hate...just dont get why thered be any secrets/withheld information when innovation is being claimed

i don't decide these things, plus we have some stuff we are working on regarding IP

[kissdadookie]

if its something unique, why not tell people what it is? srs question here, not trying to hate...just dont get why thered be any secrets/withheld information when innovation is being claimed

^ That exactly.

It's like when companies put the chemical name down on the label for caffeine instead of listing the caffeine as caffeine.

[BenBlue]

You guys bring up good points, and i'd like more info to be released by OL too. Still, they have a pretty great line up these days, open labels, and Reign is good profile with or without the Stim x. That said, innovation is being claimed, and i'd like to know more about it. I'm sure things will start to become more clear as user feedback starts pouring in, but with the caffeine, TeaCrine, Eria and DMHA, the stims are gonna hit regardless, so it may be hard to make any distinctions.

[mikaveli06]

Im curious about the tasteless teacrine also. Does 100mg tasteless equal 100mg of teacrine or is it more like 50mg teacrine and 50mg masking/blocking

Im goin to try regardless, usually do stuff from OL, Pes, or Iforce and newer Gaspari stuff

[BenBlue]

Im curious about the tasteless teacrine also. Does 100mg tasteless equal 100mg of teacrine or is it more like 50mg teacrine and 50mg masking/blocking

Im goin to try regardless, usually do stuff from OL, Pes, or Iforce and newer Gaspari stuff

So tasteless TeaCrine is typically 40% TeaCrine I believe. That said, I think what's on the label is the actual amount of TeaCrine as it doesn't indicate otherwise. Hopefully someone else can confirm this? But I was actually wondering about that too, because if it is more like 40mg of TeaCrine, that drastically brings the stim count down, which i'm sure many people would be fine with considering the rest of the stim blend, but i'd like to know.

[kissdadookie]

So tasteless TeaCrine is typically 40% TeaCrine I believe. That said, I think what's on the label is the actual amount of TeaCrine as it doesn't indicate otherwise. Hopefully someone else can confirm this? But I was actually wondering about that too, because if it is more like 40mg of TeaCrine, that drastically brings the stim count down, which i'm sure many people would be fine with considering the rest of the stim blend, but i'd like to know.

The label shows the actual amount of theacrine.

[BenBlue]

The label shows the actual amount of theacrine.

What I thought, thanks for clarifying!

[kissdadookie]

What I thought, thanks for clarifying!

Someone pointed something out to me that came straight from OL. It's 40mg of actual theacrine. So 100 mg of tasteless Teacrine yielding 40 mg of theacrine. Sorry.

[BenBlue]

Someone pointed something out to me that came straight from OL. It's 40mg of actual theacrine. So 100 mg of tasteless Teacrine yielding 40 mg of theacrine. Sorry.

Oh damn, alright, that changes things. Thanks for lookin into that.

[kissdadookie]

Oh damn, alright, that changes things. Thanks for lookin into that.

I think they probably have to update the label as well. There's 2 patented ingredients in it (Teacrine and Astragin) and 3 which are just TM names (couldn't find any patents pending or awarded for those three things, the agmatine let's be cereal here, there's no patent on that agmatine).

[carguy123]

I think they probably have to update the label as well. There's 2 patented ingredients in it (Teacrine and Astragin) and 3 which are just TM names (couldn't find any patents pending or awarded for those three things, the agmatine let's be cereal here, there's no patent on that agmatine).

They mentioned on another forum that they have already updated the labeling regarding the teacrine. BenBlue, they claimed they tested various amounts of teacrine and did not notice much difference between 40 and 100mg so just went with 40.

[kissdadookie]

They mentioned on another forum that they have already updated the labeling regarding the teacrine

Nah, I meant the part of the label that states 5 patented ingredients. It's actually 2 patented ingredients and 4 trademarks.

[carguy123]

Nah, I meant the part of the label that states 5 patented ingredients. It's actually 2 patented ingredients and 4 trademarks.

Ahhh roger that

[BenBlue]

They mentioned on another forum that they have already updated the labeling regarding the teacrine. BenBlue, they claimed they tested various amounts of teacrine and did not notice much difference between 40 and 100mg so just went with 40.

Hmm, well I can't comment on this particular blend of stimulants, but I add TeaCrine to other products and anything less than 100mg I just don't notice at all beyond a little added focus, maybe. Either way I'm expecting to enjoy Reign quite a bit.