I have a primal urge to shoot something whether its cutting a chickens head off, shooting a deer for meat, or filleting a fish. Cutting a fishes head off and filleting it or field dressing a deer and pulling out all it's internal organs satisfies a primal gene in my body
So primal bro. Dat primal gene
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06-25-2017, 05:18 PM #61
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We have enslaved the rest of the animal creation, and have treated our distant cousins in fur and feathers so badly that beyond doubt, if they were able to formulate a religion, they would depict the Devil in human form.
~ William Ralph Inge
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06-25-2017, 05:42 PM #72
And for the record when I saw Gary's video I actually went vegan for about 2 weeks is all I lasted.
Meat just tastes too good, and fulfills my primal needs.
Yes, we could do without right now. Is that ever going to happen in our lifetime? Probably not.
There's a possibility I could try veganism again one day, but right now I like eating meat and hunting.
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06-25-2017, 06:25 PM #73
who am i to stand in the way of millions of years of evolution? no thnx jeff, imma enjoy my breakfast burgers.
bro i basically went breatharian for 3 months. TFW i got home and dove into a 2 pound bowl of small shell mac and mozz cheese, followed by a greeeeCCC double cheeseburger for dinner!"Biggest fear in life is holding babies. Their so fragile, if you drop them you can ruin their entire life.
When a baby is looking at me and no one else is, I like to make sad faces to get the baby to cry and no one knows why it's crying. If they are young enough they will mimic other peoples emotions so if you act sad they will get sad." -captiontom
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06-25-2017, 06:32 PM #74
Vegan? Yo dog, that's gonna be a no for me.
Yes if you sift through the half-hidden science and the rest of the half-truths there can be some semblance of an argument made, but at the end of the day we're the dominant species, we ate meat for a reason in the past, and stopping all together especially for "moral" reasons is never going to happen. Who knows, when we're all being imprinted into machines then we may be running on a completely type of fuel. Until then I'll eat my delicious and healthy balance of meat and non-meat products, while doing a realistic best to buy from more reputable sources.
I am fine with whatever someone chooses, but when vegans start preaching and acting like non-vegans are somehow "don't get it" and are monsters then I have to start dishing out reality. It doesn't help that nearly everyone of them I see of them looks exactly how I imagine them. I have reduced my meat consumption over the years for a more balanced diet, but it's not because of anything vegans have said.EoR is powered by unique Nanomolecular Hyperdispersion Technology. Giving him high bioavailability and myocellular saturation.
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06-25-2017, 06:43 PM #75
its called being an immature bodybuilding ******* that doesn't have reasoning capabilities yet. for 50 million years our ancestors ate animals, and obviously they didn't go extinct from heart disease and cancer. now we have had agriculture for 1% of our history, and are predominantly carbohydrate eaters and not usually the right types of carbs, and brown rice and oatmeal don't cut it either *******. now we are going slowly extinct, thanks to the fact that our doctors are so stupid that they tell people to avoid the foods that kept us healthy for millions of years.
if you trust a young ******* who is barely 40 years old trying to sound like an expert you are seriously naiive, and if you think that means most old people know what they are talking about then you might as well pull tinkerbell out of my ass hole and sprinkle its powder on you and fly to Neverland.
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06-25-2017, 06:58 PM #76
I used to be a vegetarian and at least for me, it's extremely hard to get enough protein. I have been lifting daily for decades and have a good amount of muscle mass and there is no way to get enough protein eating plants. I have trouble getting meals in eating meat let alone that nonsense.
In addition, life is what it is and animals are going to die anyway, so they might as well benefit people. The only thing I'm opposed to is purposely torturing animals in any way.If you want to ask me a question:
Ask: TheAdlerian
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=150655983&p=1000366043#post1000366043
Read my science fiction novel:
http://www.amazon.com/Echelon-Adlerian-ebook/dp/B00RCFFTKC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419640250&sr=8-1&keywords=Echelon+the+adlerian
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I've said it before in another thread,
Veganism IMO is a diet for the privileged. The only reason people are vegan in the west is because everything is available to them - want something vegan? No worries, just walk down the street and there you have a selection of vegan food. Is this possible in a developing country like India? Speaking from experience, No.
I don't think vegans have ever left their privileged lives and been to a place that: Rely on fish - near a coast, a developing country, anywhere rural (few hours outside of the city) or up north where you can't farm all year round.
Veganism isn't anti-meat eating but more anti-industrialization/ animal cruelty - which I completely understand.*Misc. Wristwatch Crew*
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06-25-2017, 07:23 PM #80
You probably stink less to, tbh I've cut back on my meat eating lots. Used to be a bro needing to eat tons of protons, red meat, chicken etc. Thankfully science has shown we don't need as much protein as we thought. I've cut out red meat from my daily eating, limit myself to 3 oz of chicken or fish twice per day, and once a week or so I'll go out to eat and have a steak. I try to stay away from dairy as much as possible as well though for now I still consume eggs and Greek yogurt. I'll probably cut out meat completely after sometime if I feel like but for now I like how I'm slowly growing away from it instead of overnight.
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06-25-2017, 07:25 PM #83
muscles and scallops and oysters are interesting
are they nonsentient organic life like plants or not
there is evidence for both sides
oyster farming is better for the environment and aside from the oysters has almost no impact on other life, much different than pure plant farming which is still quite imperfect
also i think you will find that most poor cultures around the world actually mostly eat vegetable food. meat is a privilege. it is weird that meat is cheaper in our society than ****ing vegetables.
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06-25-2017, 07:25 PM #84
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I'm baffled how an individual can be as retarded as you.
You want "privilege?" Factory farmed meat is the biggest privilege in western society. You don't have to do any of the killing and cleaning of the animal, you just get to go to the grocery store and buy a piece of meat that's price is severely reduced from what it should cost due to massive government subsidization.
Also, how is this relevant in any way whatsoever to what vegans are arguing? You have options at your disposal that cause far less harm to animals and the environment than meat. Now, I'm not expecting your pea-brain to be able to comprehend any of this, but I look forward to your reply either way.
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06-25-2017, 07:38 PM #89
dude, ive been talking this for 2 days and that's not the first time ive talked about this with people or miscers. I usually don't want to talk about it because they will not listen. they even though I wasn't following my own advice until that ended up to me taking my avi as a before picture. if you don't want to listen to someone with a history of bad self control like me, don't. but once I get in shape, the advice is still correct and they still wouldn't listen and its not totally their faults because it is a secret.
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06-25-2017, 07:40 PM #90
human hunting is necessary for the eco-system to stay in motion, but ya industrial farming is horrendous.
IMO its best to go free range for meat or even better hunt it yourself.
on the morals aspect of it you can argue plant has life and even shows diferent defense mechanisms to not be eaten"Take account of yourselves before your are brought to account."
“You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength” -Marcus Aurelius
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