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    Originally Posted by KeepItMoving View Post
    You and your damn facts...exposing Obama's accord as global socialism with the United States distributing its wealth to other countries. If I listened to the liberal media, like a fool, I'd call you a xenophobic racist (ahhh, what the heel, I'd call you a homophobe too!) But, I don't listen to ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS, The New York Times, et. seq.
    lol. Don't forget The Washington Post.
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    Originally Posted by KeepItMoving View Post
    You and your damn facts...exposing Obama's accord as global socialism with the United States distributing its wealth to other countries. If I listened to the liberal media, like a fool, I'd call you a xenophobic racist (ahhh, what the heel, I'd call you a homophobe too!) But, I don't listen to ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS, The New York Times, et. seq.
    Yes; you have shown to be far smarter and more open minded than the rest of the masses.

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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    The United States (Obama) sent $1 billion to the global Green Climate Fund, but the world's top polluters contributed nothing ($0.00).

    Three of the top polluters China, Russia and India added no money to the Green Climate Fund. None.

    Make it fair, then revisit.


    Apparently since the money is meant to help developing nations switch from fossil fuels to greener energy China and India haven't contributed since both are considered developing nations. Doesn't make much sense.


    Also:

    http://fortune.com/2017/06/02/bloomb...nt-funding-un/


    Bloomberg believes that "non-state actors" will be able to achieve the United States' 2025 emissions reduction target without the federal government's support.
    So Bloomberg is stating that the private sector will develop environmental solutions and private philanthropy will contribute funding toward developing nations? Sounds like a properly conservative approach to me. To think it took Trump pulling out of the Paris agreement to get Bloomberg back in touch with his conservative side.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    Apparently since the money is meant to help developing nations switch from fossil fuels to greener energy China and India haven't contributed since both are considered developing nations. Doesn't make much sense.


    Also:

    http://fortune.com/2017/06/02/bloomb...nt-funding-un/

    So Bloomberg is stating that the private sector will develop environmental solutions and private philanthropy will contribute funding toward developing nations? Sounds like a properly conservative approach to me. To think it took Trump pulling out of the Paris agreement to get Bloomberg back in touch with his conservative side.
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    "More than 80 city mayors, including Los Angeles, Chicago, Austin and New Orleans, announced plans for their individual cities to adopt the Paris Climate Agreement."
    http://www.accuweather.com/…/us-poli...ge…/70001833
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    Originally Posted by Tyrbolift View Post
    "More than 80 city mayors, including Los Angeles, Chicago, Austin and New Orleans, announced plans for their individual cities to adopt the Paris Climate Agreement."
    http://www.accuweather.com/…/us-poli...ge…/70001833
    I've adopted it too.
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    Originally Posted by Brackneyc View Post
    I've adopted it too.
    And I personally hold you responsible for the entire earth crumbling in a ball of fire, Brachiopolis!
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    And I personally hold you responsible for the entire earth crumbling in a ball of fire, Brachiopolis!
    Well, I won't be globetrotting in my private jet any longer for starters. I will also not be heating/cooling multiple residences, or be driven around in a 40,000 lb stretch Humvee which gets 1 mile to the gallon.

    I will lead by example.

    Will the politicians follow my lead?

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    Originally Posted by Tyrbolift View Post
    "More than 80 city mayors, including Los Angeles, Chicago, Austin and New Orleans, announced plans for their individual cities to adopt the Paris Climate Agreement."
    http://www.accuweather.com/…/us-poli...ge…/70001833

    Let me guess...you could prolly just copy pasta the sanctuary city list?
    Well meaning, elderly man with a poor memory...pause

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    Originally Posted by Fishman15 View Post
    Let me guess...you could prolly just copy pasta the sanctuary city list?
    I'm anxiously awaiting to see how they plan to do this actually. I mean, are they planning to kick in funds, as would have been the case had DT renewed. Because iirc, these cities will not have the amount of money they would normally have, you know, because the Feds are cutting them off.
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    Originally Posted by Brackneyc View Post
    I'm anxiously awaiting to see how they plan to do this actually. I mean, are they planning to kick in funds, as would have been the case had DT renewed. Because iirc, these cities will not have the amount of money they would normally have, you know, because the Feds are cutting them off.
    Nothing that they can't fix with a few phone calls from Obama to some black robers in the courtroom.
    Well meaning, elderly man with a poor memory...pause

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    Originally Posted by Fishman15 View Post
    Nothing that they can't fix with a few phone calls from Obama to some black robers in the courtroom.
    Good thing is, china will keep chugging along making goods for Americans to purchase. Think they give a sht about Paris or Pittsburgh?
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    Originally Posted by vakrka View Post
    If anyone supports this agreement they are fools. Trillions of dollars spent on a promise of reducing the center of the earth temp by .06 degrees.
    I remind you they have no idea what the temperature of the center of the earth is. If it's an exact temperature. Or if it operates within a range. They have no way to measure it if they have no way to assess the history of it. It was only 3 or 4 years ago that they realize they weren't thworizing it right and now they are assuming it's 1800 degrees hotter than they thought then. They have no idea what the number correlates to as far as damage to the Earth or if it's permanent damage or just part of the cycle of this dynamic into woven ecosystem planet that we live on
    You are a liar and a fool. Anyone not supporting it is a fool. What the hell does 0.06 degrees at the center of the earth have to do with any of this? The average temperature of the surface of the earth is breaking records almost every year and is rising faster and faster. The amount and intensity of storms including hurricanes will increase rapidly. The sea will rise making oceanfront property worthless. The data is there and the projections are there. Maybe not because Pruitt of the EPA is trying to destroy the data. Trump appointed an anti science nut to head the EPA.

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    Originally Posted by Tyrbolift View Post
    "More than 80 city mayors, including Los Angeles, Chicago, Austin and New Orleans, announced plans for their individual cities to adopt the Paris Climate Agreement."
    http://www.accuweather.com/…/us-poli...ge…/70001833
    The way it should be. I believe these decisions should be made at the most local level as possible. Let communities decide what is best for them.

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    Originally Posted by crupiea View Post
    I went to the beach yesterday here in San Diego. I did not see any icebergs or polar bears so I think the sky is falling predictions might be a bit exaggerated.
    I just got paid the other day. Therefore there is no unemployment.

    Originally Posted by Mark1T;
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    Unemployment rate is down, stock market is up, consumer confidence is up, but according to the fraudulent media, the sky is falling.
    Wow, I said this last October and got poo-pooed by you.

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    Climate does change...that's the nature of it. It changes every year, every, month, every week, every day, and usually several times throughout each day. But the idea that the US needs another route to redistribute it's wealth because of it while China does China...

    ...is indeed a hoax in my opinion
    The most fantastic display of willful ignorance I've read in a while. You are confusing weather with climate.

    Originally Posted by vakrka View Post
    If anyone supports this agreement they are fools. Trillions of dollars spent on a promise of reducing the center of the earth temp by .06 degrees.
    Ok, WTF? lol Who's making this sh!t up. This tops even Fish.

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    The left should be happy he took us out of it. Seeing as how they don't trust him, this appears to be a good move.
    Once again demonstrating how you don't know the left that you rail against so much.

    Originally Posted by acrawlingchaos View Post
    So then what is the point? Just handshakes and empty promises while the U.S. is expected to keep their end of the bargain?


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    Just to demonstrate that everyone is on the same page.

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    Trump is proving to be the greatest president we've ever had, and it's not even been a year yet. I can't wait to see all that he will accomplish in 8 years. Thank you America, for getting this election right.
    His legislative victories are just piling up, right?

    Originally Posted by acrawlingchaos View Post
    The way it should be. I believe these decisions should be made at the most local level as possible. Let communities decide what is best for them.
    Agreed, although I do find it troubling that the Gov. of California is essentially negotiating a treaty.

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    Originally Posted by JediRN View Post
    I just got paid the other day. Therefore there is no unemployment.



    Wow, I said this last October and got poo-pooed by you.



    The most fantastic display of willful ignorance I've read in a while. You are confusing weather with climate.



    Ok, WTF? lol Who's making this sh!t up. This tops even Fish.



    Once again demonstrating how you don't know the left that you rail against so much.





    His legislative victories are just piling up, right?



    Agreed, although I do find it troubling that the Gov. of California is essentially negotiating a treaty.



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    Originally Posted by JediRN View Post
    His legislative victories are just piling up, right?
    I'm not quite sure I understand what this has to do with my response. IMO the Paris Accord placed America in a situation in which we are expected to funnel money outside our borders while Russia and China pay nothing more than lip service to the agreement. Any agreement must be binding or it means nothing.

    Agreed, although I do find it troubling that the Gov. of California is essentially negotiating a treaty.
    To be honest, it doesn't particularly bother me at all. I don't live in California and there is absolutely nothing Governor Jerry Brown can do to force the hand of businesses or citizens in New Hampshire. Jerry Brown has been voted by the people of California to speak on their behalf, and I am quite certain that his constituents approve of his actions.

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    Well, I won't be globetrotting in my private jet any longer for starters. I will also not be heating/cooling multiple residences, or be driven around in a 40,000 lb stretch Humvee which gets 1 mile to the gallon.

    I will lead by example.

    Will the politicians follow my lead?

    The magic 8 ball says, "all signs point to no."
    I will follow you, Brach, at least to the end of the block. I believe.

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    I'm not banned, Tyrbs. But, maybe I will be after climate change kicks in, being that I didn't invest in that boat
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    I'm not quite sure I understand what this has to do with my response.

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    Rookie cut and paste error. I fixed my original post. Should make sense now.

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    The way it should be. I believe these decisions should be made at the most local level as possible. Let communities decide what is best for them.
    Yes but if man made climate change is real then it doesn't stay just in the local community. I think this was the whole (supposedly and what they want us to believe) point of getting everyone onboard.

    Dropping out of the Paris agreement doesn't mean that the US won't continue developing clean energy and may even have more success with it when not bogged down by the bureaucracy (read.. black hole that you throw money into) that will be inevitable under the Paris agreement.

    I have read that DT has or is going to cut funding to R&D (This from the leftist anti DT media over here). However history has shown that it’s not government funded research but private enterprise that has the most success in finding and developing new technology. This is the American way. You chase the money and profit.

    It makes no difference what DT does for it will be portrayed as wrong regardless. The man could fire gold nuggets out of his anus and they would still be the wrong shape.

    People over here forget that had it not been for the US we would all be speaking German or Russian.....but thats another subject.
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    Originally Posted by PiperBill View Post
    It makes no difference what DT does for it will be portrayed as wrong regardless. The man could fire gold nuggets out of his anus and they would still be the wrong shape.
    OR it will be defended as right regardless.
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    Once again demonstrating how you don't know the left that you rail against so much.
    Just to be clear, I don't consider you "left." most folks I know irl life who claim left or right, actually live in both camps much of the time, depending on the issue.

    I am talking about the left wing knuckleheads like Schumer, Pelosi, Feinstein, etc. You could set your watch by this group. Do we have people here on bbdotcom? Yes we do, but not many.

    I am being 100% sincere when I say that had DT stayed in the Paris agreement, some of the left would have gone on the news a millisecond later and said what an awful decision it was.
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    Originally Posted by Brackneyc View Post
    Just to be clear, I don't consider you "left." most folks I know irl life who claim left or right, actually live in both camps much of the time, depending on the issue.

    I am talking about the left wing knuckleheads like Schumer, Pelosi, Feinstein, etc. You could set your watch by this group. Do we have people here on bbdotcom? Yes we do, but not many.

    I am being 100% sincere when I say that had DT stayed in the Paris agreement, some of the left would have gone on the news a millisecond later and said what an awful decision it was.
    And some on the right would say that it's good. It goes both ways. Divisive rhetoric is the order of the day.
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    Originally Posted by Tyrbolift View Post
    And some on the right would say that it's good. It goes both ways. Divisive rhetoric is the order of the day.
    Of course it goes both ways. However, the right has beaten DT up on many occasions prior to, and since taking office. He has not gotten a few pass from those claiming R.

    If we can achieve the same goals here at home, which are outlined in the Paris agreement, without funding the program for the rest of the world, I'm all in.
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    Originally Posted by Brackneyc View Post
    Just to be clear, I don't consider you "left." most folks I know irl life who claim left or right, actually live in both camps much of the time, depending on the issue.

    I am talking about the left wing knuckleheads like Schumer, Pelosi, Feinstein, etc. You could set your watch by this group. Do we have people here on bbdotcom? Yes we do, but not many.

    I am being 100% sincere when I say that had DT stayed in the Paris agreement, some of the left would have gone on the news a millisecond later and said what an awful decision it was.
    I hear what you are saying.

    I would just same that some on the left should just be ignored. I know I don't take them seriously. Most the leadership on both sides falls in the camp. Unfortunately they are all skill politicians... and that's just the way it is.

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    Originally Posted by JediRN View Post
    I hear what you are saying.

    I would just same that some on the left should just be ignored. I know I don't take them seriously. Most the leadership on both sides falls in the camp. Unfortunately they are all skill politicians... and that's just the way it is.
    Politics / Politically Correct is only going so far now. Theresa May for the first time, either today or yesterday said the words, "Islamic Terrorism/Extremism," instead of being politically correct.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Politics / Politically Correct is only going so far now. Theresa May for the first time, either today or yesterday said the words, "Islamic Terrorism/Extremism," instead of being politically correct.
    She did!! Oh boy, this changes everything. The war on terror is all but over now. I feel safer already.
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    She did!! Oh boy, this changes everything. The war on terror is all but over now. I feel safer already.
    I don't feel any safer. But, sometimes, even words can translate into action.

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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Politics / Politically Correct is only going so far now. Theresa May for the first time, either today or yesterday said the words, "Islamic Terrorism/Extremism," instead of being politically correct.
    I'd like to know what she means by that they need to have some difficult and embarrassing conversations now? Are they embarrassing because of their existing policies are so lenient? I'm not really sure what she was saying. Hopefully they get tougher on the terror front though...
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