Elon Musk will drop out of white house councils if trump leaves paris deal

[SwayWay]

http://thehill.com/policy/technology...aves-the-paris

Musk directly on Twitter: ✔ @elonmusk Don't know which way Paris will go, but I've done all I can to advise directly to POTUS, through others in WH & via councils, that we remain

The administration needs to listen to the business sector, the deal keeps america as the leader in global technology.

[jlick]

Here's a novel idea....American can keep it's own carbon emissions down. We don't need to play by foreign rules and giving our hard earned dollars to foreign governing bodies.

[Lefticle]

Elon leaving because the President may go against his advice on 1 issue?

What a selfish cry baby.

[iifymbro]

I'm not seeing anywhere that he is going to quit....

[Procta]

doubt that, all his money come from govt subsidies

[SwayWay]

Here's a novel idea....American can keep it's own carbon emissions down. We don't need to play by foreign rules and giving our hard earned dollars to foreign governing bodies.

Play by foreign rules? Huh? You realize we dont live in some isolationist vacuum right? The whole world needs to agree to consensuses on GLOBAL ISSUES for policies to have any effect. Welcome to the 21st century.

[ContrarianIndi]

What would it do to Elon's bottom line if his customers didn't receive a 7,500 tax credit from the federal government for purchasing one of his vehicles.

It would be a shame if he lost that incentive and had to reduce the price of his vehicles or experience a lower sales volume. Especially during a time when Tesla's financials are looking so terrible.

And if SpaceX stopped receiving government contracts?

I wonder what percentage of Solar City's financials are made up of subsidies and tax credits.

His investors must feel a little nervous about that.


When you're running running a business that's so heavily dependent on the government's tit, it's important to not upset the leader of that government.

[SillieBazzillie]

What would it do to Elon's bottom line if his customers didn't receive a 7,500 tax credit from the federal government for purchasing one of his vehicles.

It would be a shame if he lost that incentive and had to reduce the price of his vehicles or experience a lower sales volume. Especially during a time when Tesla's financials are looking so terrible.

And if SpaceX stopped receiving government contracts?

I wonder what percentage of Solar City's financials are made up of subsidies and tax credits.

His investors must feel a little nervous about that.


When you're running running a business that's so heavily dependent on the government's tit, it's important to not upset the leader of that government.

Yea, lets not support an actual entrepreneur who's legitimately trying to make the world a better place by creating new lines of products that don't adhere to norms. Let's just throw some more money into the hands of our oil companies who don't give two ****s about anything that doesn't increase their bottom line.

[ymer]

Yea, lets not support an actual entrepreneur who's legitimately trying to make the world a better place by creating new lines of products that don't adhere to norms. Let's just throw some more money into the hands of our oil companies who don't give two ****s about anything that doesn't increase their bottom line.

So you're in favor of unfairly subsidizing one industry sector with taxpayer money? the same industry that would not be profitable/cease to exist if these subsidies would go bankrupt because their business model relies on free money from the government?

[SillieBazzillie]

So you're in favor of unfairly subsidizing one industry sector with taxpayer money? the same industry that would not be profitable/cease to exist if these subsidies would go bankrupt because their business model relies on free money from the government?

Yes. Did the railroads not receive a ****load of government subsidies? How'd that turn out?

[KazBrah]

It's almost like he has invested interest in an alternative to fossil fuel energy.

[ymer]

Yes. Did the railroads not receive a ****load of government subsidies? How'd that turn out?

lmao at comparing infrastructure to the government footing the bill for a luxury car.

Liberals are really insane.

[arn710]

Yes. Did the railroads not receive a ****load of government subsidies? How'd that turn out?

You're on a roll today!

[Vexidi]

lmao at comparing infrastructure to the government footing the bill for a luxury car.

Liberals are really insane.

Exactly. By the time the government got involved rail was already proven time tested technology, not a tax payer gamble. Musk is a billionaire. He can fund his own hobbies.

[gixxer0.6g]

Well duh. His business is subsidized by the green revolution.

[SillieBazzillie]

lmao at comparing infrastructure to the government footing the bill for a luxury car.

Liberals are really insane.

Is Tesla the only car to receive subsidies? Don't think there weren't tards back in the day who thought "hur dur why we need rail roads? We gots horses already." Prior to Trump the government tried to think beyond just what the mouth breathers at the time believe. Kind of like you guys now.

[AlwaysFocus]

sounds like the guys a baby

Brb don't get my way so stamp my feet and quit? Lel

[jlick]

Play by foreign rules? Huh? You realize we dont live in some isolationist vacuum right? The whole world needs to agree to consensuses on GLOBAL ISSUES for policies to have any effect. Welcome to the 21st century.

If it was up to me, we would be a lot more isolated than we are. I don't want to pay europes protection. They should do that themselves. I don't want to pay for other countries to reduce their carbon emissions. They should do that on their own. We don't need to enter into this terrible deal for the sake of "globalism". I care about America being prosperous and protected. I don't care about Europeans. And they should think the same as me. God forbid a country has to look after its own interests. Welcome to Trump's America, buddy.

[meenman83]

Elon Musk thinks he's on that Erik Prince time...

[US_Ranger]

Elon Musk thinks he's on that Erik Prince time...

The Erik Prince opposite though. If Musk's ventures work out, we can not deal with Saudi Arabia anymore and then they can go back in time 800 years and kill each other without our oil dollars coming in.

[tng83]

Who cares? His wealth is built heavily on government artificially propping up green energy. Musk can take a walk.

[LaoHu7]

...he depends on the global warming hoax to justify the billions he receives in tax payer funding for his failing car company. This is the same guy that says the gov should ban gas engines altogether so people would be forced to by his crappy product

[GaloisTheory]

Since when did

"I've done all I can to convince him otherwise"

=

"I'm going to quit if he doesn't go through with it."

????

[WestAfrica]

I thought everyone loved Musk when he first joined Trump's team.

[meenman83]

The Erik Prince opposite though. If Musk's ventures work out, we can not deal with Saudi Arabia anymore and then they can go back in time 800 years and kill each other without our oil dollars coming in.

Brother; we both know the ME only has 50-60 years left on oil they stone aged themselves on purchasing Ferraris, tigers and indoor ski slopes. Elon does sell some novel ideas and concepts but has he actually delivered any benefit other than a glimpse of hope?

[DMoney818]

Elon Musk is a welfare leech. We could be giving all that money to someone that can make rockets that don't blow up.

[US_Ranger]

Brother; we both know the ME only has 50-60 years left on oil they stone aged themselves on purchasing Ferraris, tigers and indoor ski slopes. Elon does sell some novel ideas and concepts but has he actually delivered any benefit other than a glimpse of hope?

Eh, I've been following the news on their big battery factory in Reno, NV. It's outside California so he's saving big money by building it there. Anyway, once that opens up, the price of batteries for his vehicles will be cut dramatically since that's what 90% of the vehicle actually is. If you've ever seen a Tesla chopped in half, it's pretty interesting. Basically wheels and batteries with some shocks. So if that works out and the price drops by 30-50% (eventually) then the entire vehicle infrastructure of the USA changes.

Also, the solar panel roofing. He's trying to make it so that all roof building is done with solar panels as a part of it. Basically self sustaining roofing in terms of power draw. If solar is built in to a roof, coal and natural gas use would be cut down dramatically.

Finally, SpaceX. I shouldn't even have to say much here but the company is re-using rockets and landing them on platforms in the ocean. This is going to cut the cost of space travel and payload delivery to space by an absurd amount of money that most people can't calculate.

I used to be on the fence about Musk but after watching what happened with SpaceX, I'm honestly more of a fan now and I hope his vision of the future happens. All this technology comes out but we're still using vehicles that create sparks and mini explosions to get around. We're apes when it comes to technology use, we need to step it up. Our only independence from Saudi Arabia and the main source of terrorism in this world will happen when we stop giving them money. Until then, we'll continue to get blown up by savages from 600 AD. I want that to stop.

[US_Ranger]

Elon Musk is a welfare leech. We could be giving all that money to someone that can make rockets that don't blow up.

Apparently you haven't watched the videos.

Join date: May 2017

My bad, another R&P troll at work here.

[GaloisTheory]

I thought everyone loved Musk when he first joined Trump's team.

Anyone who doesn't rabidly defend the reign of big oil is apparently leftist, lol. It's almost lulzy watching people accuse others of being drones controlled by corporate interests as they aggressively and blindly shill for big oil.

[Stizzel]

Im okay with this