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    3rd party testing supplements

    Hey everyone. I am pretty sure I had asked this before but can't find where it was or anything when I did a search. I have tried searching the web as well and if I find anything it is either fish oil or news articles about suing companies over false label advertisements. I stopped taking my supplements and have been focusing on eating but I have found it is sometimes easier and more convenient to use some supplements over trying to get them through my food. I am looking for supplements that are 3rd party approved. I am looking for a pre workout and a protein powder. I had tried ON protein and liked it but than switched to Muscle Pharm because it appeared to be offering a slightly more protein grams than the ON. I found the Muscle Pharm to be pretty bad compared to the ON. It seemed to taste bad and the protein would clump after sitting for a short time. I had seen something online about how to tell you have bad Protein and clumping was a sign and the way it taste I would agree with that theory. I am looking for the best bang for my buck. If the label says it has xyz that what I want not abc. Any help in finding how a product is 3rd party tested?
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    Some companies will provide results when asked i.e. Nutrabio, PES, Blue Star etc. and Musclepharm has them all on their site http://mpssi.com/protein-quality-reports/
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    The most transparent company by far is NutraBio. From full label transparency to a separate website set up for their third party tests not to mention the tests they do on all their raws.
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    Every batch of our Protein > Whey HD - Best Protein and ISOHD are tested and verified through ChromaDex



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    https://chromadex.com/verification-program/
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    We also just added, Best BCAA and Best Creatine to the ChromaDex Verification Program



    https://chromadex.com/verification-program/

    Click on the link above for more info on the ChromaDex Verification Program
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    We also just added, Best BCAA and Best Creatine to the ChromaDex program



    https://chromadex.com/verification-program/
    nice!


    all of Finaflex raws are 3rd party tested. that's why we run out of stock sometimes. its hard to get good clean raws sometimes. a lot of our newer products rely on patented and trademarked ingredients, it makes stuff a bit more expensive but the effectiveness shows.
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    BPI Chromadex program is a sham.

    Ask for the COA. Lmao
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    Originally Posted by OT2000 View Post
    BPI Chromadex program is a sham.

    Ask for the COA. Lmao
    If YOU worked in this industry you'd understand. Also, we made a huge impact with our Verification Program

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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    If YOU worked in this industry you'd understand. Also, we made a huge impact with our Verification Program

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    I am involved in raw material handling and all ingredients/products have a COA that are provided upon request. I understand you don't have access to them but it's reasonable to be skeptical when no test results from what is a highly regarded program have been made available.
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    Originally Posted by eatyourspinach View Post
    I am involved in raw material handling and all ingredients/products have a COA that are provided upon request. I understand you don't have access to them but it's reasonable to be skeptical when no test results from what is a highly regarded program have been made available.
    Have other companies provided a COA?
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    Have other companies provided a COA?
    Well a third party lab test is actually better unless they come directly from a manufacturer and some have provided those.
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    Originally Posted by eatyourspinach View Post
    Well a third party lab test is actually better unless they come directly from a manufacturer and some have provided those.
    You really can't compare a single third party test vs a verification program. Check out the ChromaDex Program below

    https://chromadex.com/verification-program/
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    You really can't compare a single third party test vs a verification program. Check out the ChromaDex Program below

    https://chromadex.com/verification-program/
    But not even a single test result from BPI has been provided, Chromadex does apparently make these results available i.e.

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    As you can see, the test results are pages long as I stated before. They provided an example, lets see what I can come up with
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    You can look to NSF for sport as they test against label claim. If you're wanting to rely on a third party test for a protein, look for one that gives a complete amino break down.
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    Verification programs without COA available to consumers are a sham, plain and simple. I don't care who works or thinks they work in this industry. You're not willing to provide the detailed breakdown, you're hiding something.
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    As you can see, the test results are pages long as I stated before. They provided an example, lets see what I can come up with
    Nobody is asking for every single test result from all lots, there are very few that do that, but you haven't provided 1 and you keep touting this program. BPI has way too much to lose by not meeting label claims so I'm not doubting they do but it isn't hard to come up with a single test result if you have any form of communication/relationship with the company.
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    Verification programs without COA available to consumers are a sham, plain and simple. I don't care who works or thinks they work in this industry. You're not willing to provide the detailed breakdown, you're hiding something.
    The files are really big, too big to post.
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    So some of this stuff is over my head for sure. I am looking for something that says it has xyz in it and it actually does have xyz in it. As stated before I tried muscle pharm due to the label being similar to ON protein but 5 grams extra protein than ON. The end result was it was not good. Tasted bad, Clumped up. I also saw an article about muscle pharm building their own facility for testing but that is the type of thing that makes me leery. I like the idea of a 3rd party test or a review with someone who actually tested it and can verify that the product is what it says it is. Muscle pharm running its product through their testing facility only means they can put what they want on the bottle and show you proof that its correct but that doesn't mean the proof is legit and not forged for the better of the company. Men's health magazine just had an article about supplement company's running illegal substances but due to the lack of research and a government system to monitor the supplements properly there are a lot of scams going on. I'm not worried about scams or anything I just want a good dependable company that works by putting the facts behind them. I had heard about a sight that tested supplements for reviews but I have had no luck finding the website and the data sheet that was posted here is too much science for me to understand what it is truly saying.
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    There are a number of brands that have been third party tested.

    Stack3d tested a number of different protein powders, including NutraBio and PES.

    This company also does third party tests for protein powders, bars, and some amino supplements. They're a Dutch company though, so not all of the brands may be relevant to you if you are purchasing in the US. They do, though, have some popular brands here like Dymatize.
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    As you can see, the test results are pages long as I stated before. They provided an example, lets see what I can come up with
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    I have yet to make a decision. So far I am leaning towards trying bpi, pe science, muscle tech or going back to ON
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    I have yet to make a decision. So far I am leaning towards trying bpi, pe science, muscle tech or going back to ON

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