Any brahs want to hop on PSMF with me? Lets get shredded srs

[kimm4]

I started today and will run it for 10-12 days. I did it last year without any issues so we'll see how it goes.

[cncman]

But how are your morning ****s doing on that diet?

I **** about 1 time a week, while taking a fiber supp and staying hydrated. It makes sense that you're going to utilize the vast majority of what you eat at 1000 or fewer calories. TBH it's probably worse to eat 2000 calories and do 1000 calories worth of cardio than to just eat 1000 total cals. I've maintained my strength somewhat and don't look any smaller. Definitely flatten out hardcore about 4 days in. No bloat, dry, piss about 10 times a day without drinking a gallon of water.

[Pungiish]

1K cals in, done for today... Its 3pm.. Rip would probs binge if i wouldnt just run out of money buying toilet paper, cottage cheese and coke kek

And ive got studying to do

[IH8RICE]

But how are your morning ****s doing on that diet?

I **** once a day, normally after dinner. I've had some gross ones the day after a refeed or my cheat meal though.

be careful those dipping their toes in this sht, i ended up trying to do this and wheel span months away by binge eating due to cravings and then trying to undo it with another PSMF.

mirin if you can stick to it, i only ever managed 2 weeks max whilst doing high volume bro splitting

The book specifically says NOT to do this and your experience is exactly why it mentions this. 2-3 times a week with medium to low volume is what's recommended. Your body simply doesn't have the energy to keep up.

I noticed the book mentioned that category 2's should refeed 5 hours once per week. Does this mean that the individual needs to consume the majority of his carbohydrate in a 5 hour time span?

After scrolling through the pdf, this was the plan I came up with:

I'm a Category 2:
1000 calories
190 g protein
20 g fat
15 carbs

Supplements include
- Fish oil
- Multivitamin

I'll do this for two weeks and re-feed once a week during a five hour period. Then its back to normal dieting and maybe repeat the process down the road if the results look promising.

Does it look like i'm doing it correctly? Thanks mates

A refeed introduces extra carbs back into your body to helps with energy (glycogen) depletion. I'm under the assumption you eat a ton of carbs not just daily amount in that five hour period.

1K cals in, done for today... Its 3pm.. Rip would probs binge if i wouldnt just run out of money buying toilet paper, cottage cheese and coke kek

And ive got studying to do

Why not do IF and eat either later in the day or leave enough on the table so you can have a decent meal before bed?

[Pungiish]

I **** once a day, normally after dinner. I've had some gross ones the day after a refeed or my cheat meal though.


The book specifically says NOT to do this and your experience is exactly why it mentions this. 2-3 times a week with medium to low volume is what's recommended. Your body simply doesn't have the energy to keep up.


A refeed introduces extra carbs back into your body to helps with energy (glycogen) depletion. I'm under the assumption you eat a ton of carbs not just daily amount in that five hour period.

Why not do IF and eat either later in the day or leave enough on the table so you can have a decent meal before bed?

i did if till 1, then i got hungry. drank coke after my meal at 3pm and wasnt hungry until now, 7pm. now i just have to endure 3 hours hehe

[Pungiish]

Currently at 68kg


Long way to go back to 60 - 132lbs kekeke

[IH8RICE]

i did if till 1, then i got hungry. drank coke after my meal at 3pm and wasnt hungry until now, 7pm. now i just have to endure 3 hours hehe

Feels. Sometimes I almost can't stand being awake because of the growling and such. The worst times are my off days when I'm by myself and chillen. I normally binge ate on those days. Now I have to keep myself busy until the wife gets home.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

mirin dedication of you guys here. I don't know how I'd survive on this.

[cncman]

A week in, I usually have to start taking naps at lunchtime. If that helps anyone. I go almost 100% protonz though.

[hidan25]

Feels. Sometimes I almost can't stand being awake because of the growling and such. The worst times are my off days when I'm by myself and chillen. I normally binge ate on those days. Now I have to keep myself busy until the wife gets home.

Did you notice any loss in lbm? Starting this today and thats the only thing worrying me

[IH8RICE]

Did you notice any loss in lbm? Starting this today and thats the only thing worrying me

It's hard for me to say as I still a bit of fat covering me. I've lost no strength in the gym and if anything I've gained on a couple of lifts but that may be to me over working during my regular workouts.

[Vbrah]

Would this yield better results than say eating 2000 cals a day and burning off 1000 cals by doing cardio?

[Bentley41]

Would this yield better results than say eating 2000 cals a day and burning off 1000 cals by doing cardio?

whatever is most sustainable, and creates the higher deficit

[Pungiish]

Would this yield better results than say eating 2000 cals a day and burning off 1000 cals by doing cardio?

Maybe... Burning 1k cals by cardio would probably raise more cortisol than just eating 1k cals

[tnthudson]

Did PSMF last week, blew it a little bit this weekend (wine tour) and I'm rolling along with PSMF again this week. Down from 181.5 to 177 lbs., no rebound yet from the weekend.
Here are some links that may help, I read a BUNCH on these sites and sometimes the questions on the forums help clarify any confusion you (or I) may have.
http://www.psmfdiet.com - pretty sure this is part of Lyle's network, but has a good clear layout
https://forums.lylemcdonald.com/forumdisplay.php?f=7 - the forum for Lyle's RFL (PSMF) book
https://www.reddit.com/r/PSMF/ - I know, hold your neg cannons though, because this sub actually has some great questions & answers

Going to try to get through this week and do a refeed Friday or Saturday, from what I can tell I'll get about 300 g / Carbs to play with so that should be fun. Oven-baked sweet potato slices FTW!

[Vbrah]

whatever is most sustainable, and creates the higher deficit

Maybe... Burning 1k cals by cardio would probably raise more cortisol than just eating 1k cals

Cool. Will probably try this route since I have some extra time in the morning these days and would rather get to eat more food lol

[Groce]

Is it true it gets much easier after 3 days or so? I tried this a few years ago and all I can remember is feeling absolutely fukin terrible, I think I got through a week then had a refeed where I just lost my mind and binged out lol. Also what kind of numbers for deficit are we looking at with this? If it's just 1000 then it just doesn't seem worth it since you can just do some cardio and eat less for that while actually living and eating like a normal human being, but if it's 3-4 lbs fat loss per week then I might give it a try again.

[cncman]

Is it true it gets much easier after 3 days or so? I tried this a few years ago and all I can remember is feeling absolutely fukin terrible, I think I got through a week then had a refeed where I just lost my mind and binged out lol. Also what kind of numbers for deficit are we looking at with this? If it's just 1000 then it just doesn't seem worth it since you can just do some cardio and eat less for that while actually living and eating like a normal human being, but if it's 3-4 lbs fat loss per week then I might give it a try again.

PSMF never gets easier. After a week you do start getting less hungry. That's why people EC/Yohimbe it.

[IH8RICE]

Is it true it gets much easier after 3 days or so? I tried this a few years ago and all I can remember is feeling absolutely fukin terrible, I think I got through a week then had a refeed where I just lost my mind and binged out lol. Also what kind of numbers for deficit are we looking at with this? If it's just 1000 then it just doesn't seem worth it since you can just do some cardio and eat less for that while actually living and eating like a normal human being, but if it's 3-4 lbs fat loss per week then I might give it a try again.

The hunger, cravings, and feeling lethargic became a lot more tolerable after week one for me. The refeed and cheat meal help to stabilize your mind mainly. I feel pretty good except looking like a zombie all the time.

[Hancock1994]

In!
Day 1, 188, cat 2!
It's got me at 1k calories, 187gs of protein.
I already got vitamins D,E,K2 and a ZMA sup. So I will go to the store today and get a B complex and a potassium sup. It suggests an extra calcium, but I'm already exceeding the RDI cause casein is loaded with it.
On top of this, I'm taking a forskolin product, ArA, new norco and yohimbe HCL.
Motivation is high.
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[Groce]

Isnt it true that potassium supps come in limits of 99mg per pill? How could you take enough to exceed the recommended 4700mg?

green veg?

[Hexacube]

im doing this right now

sticking to lean beef mince has made this so ****ing easy like im never hungry because 400cals of lean beef is so filling for me.

[Hancock1994]

Isnt it true that potassium supps come in limits of 99mg per pill? How could you take enough to exceed the recommended 4700mg?

Hmm your right, but I do see nature made has 550 mgs of potassium gluconate per pill. I guess I'm picking these up.
I am gonna include more green veggies, spinach is goat but expensive so I may invest in more broc**** or look up other good potassium greens.

[SazabiBrah]

Would this yield better results than say eating 2000 cals a day and burning off 1000 cals by doing cardio?

I think Lyle Mcdonald mentions this in his book and doesn't recommend it. Reason being is that you're basically not going to have adequate energy to fuel yourself during long durations of exercise, plus the fact that you'll just be causing more damage to the muscles and it will be harder to repair with such low calories.

This is why he recommends lifting only 2-3 days a week on the diet with the only cardio being walking

[Bonnappe]

Ended my refeed at around 7000-8000 kcal, bit over my plan but thankfully didn't go full retard

[IH8RICE]

Ended my refeed at around 7000-8000 kcal, bit over my plan but thankfully didn't go full retard

Lol, how is this possible in a five hour period? Aren't you somewhat spinning wheels eating so far over maintenance?

[Bonnappe]

Lol, how is this possible in a five hour period? Aren't you somewhat spinning wheels eating so far over maintenance?

Went full retard, had around 4000 calories more and now I can't sleep because my stomach hurts and heart rate is skyhigh

[PeteJonesHTX]

Went full retard, had around 4000 calories more and now I can't sleep because my stomach hurts and heart rate is skyhigh

Wait, so you had a total of 11k-12k, or you went 4k over what you had planned? Either way, I'd be very interested to see a "Full day of eating with bonnappe" video, srs.

[Hancock1994]

Lol, how is this possible in a five hour period? Aren't you somewhat spinning wheels eating so far over maintenance?

Well eating this amount of food in that time frame is going to boast a much more thermogenic effect from food than smaller meals. He would gain more fat eating that same amount of calories over maintenance, ina span of a couple of days.

But essentially the refers is supposed to be 5-6 grams of carbs per bodyweight. For me at 188 that's a max of 1128 grams. My protein is 188 to, and with a max of 50grams of fat on those refeeds, that's only 5714 calories. So he essentially is refeeding wrong, and going overboard.

[hidan25]

Am I allowed to eat a Banana while on psmf?
I know your supposed to eat only lean protein and vegetables but I have some bananas I rather not throw away. Plus it will be my only source of carbs