5'10" tall, how much body and muscle mass needed to squat 500 lbs?

[MachineMan384]

So a little background on myself, I am 5'10 inches tall (well officially, about 5'10" and 1/2") and 33 years-old. I have started working out following the 5x5 program. Right now I am a weakling still, at least by strength standards. When I first started, I could only squat (for reps) 120 lbs. I managed to get up to 200, but then had slacked off due to starting work and school, but I've since worked out a way to do it again. I had declined to 150 for 5 reps on the squat, but now I am back up to 170, so in a few weeks I should hopefully be back up to 200 again.

I also was 145 lbs when I started working out, got up to 160, went back to about 153, but now back up to 160 again (I do a very clean bulk while following 5x5). Anyways, I have the ultimate strength goals of being able to do a 400 lb bench press, 500 lb squat, and 600 lb deadlift. However, I am wondering how much muscle mass I would need to be able to do that? Like could I achieve that at a weight of 180 lbs, as that is I think what I would like to reach weight-wise, as that will look very aesthetic and proportional. However, I don't know if I can reach those numbers at that weight level. If I had to go to 200+ lbs, that might look too big for my height.

I would be happy with squatting 400 if need be, but 500 would be really nice to reach. Thanks.

[isaku900]

there are 148s squatting 500lbs so...

[ajc1234]

You currently squat 170 for 5, so obviously 500 is a long way away. I would worry about getting stronger, eating enough, resting etc. There are definitely 180 pounders that squat 500, but again they've been training a long time. Keep at it.

[itsagoodday]

The only way to answer this question is to work your way up to a 500 squat, and let us know what it took for you to get there. FWIW, I'd be more worried about the 400 bench goal though.

[ChecksandGiggles]

You probably could achieve that at 180, but I don't think you need to worry about being "too big for your height" at 200. I'm right around 200 at 5'7 and when I'm wearing a shirt I barely look like I lift.

[MachineMan384]

The only way to answer this question is to work your way up to a 500 squat, and let us know what it took for you to get there. FWIW, I'd be more worried about the 400 bench goal though.

Is a 400 bench not possible for most people my height at 180...? I can live with a 300 lb bench if necessary. If I can look okay at 190 - 200 to get that, that'd be okay too.

[MachineMan384]

You probably could achieve that at 180, but I don't think you need to worry about being "too big for your height" at 200. I'm right around 200 at 5'7 and when I'm wearing a shirt I barely look like I lift.

While a brand-new member, I have been an off-and-on lurker at these forums for some years now, and I remember there was a thread of a guy posting that he was 5'10 and weighed 220, and everyone was saying that he didn't look that, because 5'10, 220 is pretty huge. 200 itself maybe not, but that is why I posted about if I had to get to 200+.

[MachineMan384]

there are 148s squatting 500lbs so...

You currently squat 170 for 5, so obviously 500 is a long way away. I would worry about getting stronger, eating enough, resting etc. There are definitely 180 pounders that squat 500, but again they've been training a long time. Keep at it.

Good to hear. Yes, 500 is some ways off, but it is good to have a long-term goal.

[BenBlue]

there are 148s squatting 500lbs so...

^^^ it's attainable at 148

I fluctuate around 200lbs, plan to compete at 198 this year. I can pull 500-550 natty raw, but elite level strength would have me pulling a lot more for my weight class. So really, it's relative. Strength levels vary quite a bit.

[JimRat6969]

About three hundred and fifty

[churley57]

As of right now, you don't need to be worrying about 500 pounds. Your next goal should be to squat 225, and then 250, 275 and so on. A 500 lb is attainable at almost any body weight over 160 lbs for most people with decent genetics. Best of luck op and don't get so caught up in these big numbers that you forget that Rome wasn't built in a day

[308smk]

At 5'10 I think you'd need to be 185 at a minimum, but leverages are more important in that case than overall bodyweight.

If you have super short femurs and a long torso it would help a ton.

[ChecksandGiggles]

While a brand-new member, I have been an off-and-on lurker at these forums for some years now, and I remember there was a thread of a guy posting that he was 5'10 and weighed 220, and everyone was saying that he didn't look that, because 5'10, 220 is pretty huge. 200 itself maybe not, but that is why I posted about if I had to get to 200+.

I've been close to 235 and at 5'7 that was pretty enormous. Again, it all depends on body composition, too. I think you being somewhere between 180-200 at 5'10 would be good for aesthetics and strength.

[MachineMan384]

Thanks for the information all.

[Yodums]

Is a 400 bench not possible for most people my height at 180...? I can live with a 300 lb bench if necessary. If I can look okay at 190 - 200 to get that, that'd be okay too.

A 400 lbs bench in the 83 kg/181 lbs category is a fairly exclusive club that not many people are going to make. At World's last year, not many people hit a 400 lbs bench: http://www.powerlifting-ipf.com/file...oresheet_m.htm. I'm not sure how tall Haack is, but Gibbs is on the shorter side of 5'4" I believe. It wouldn't surprise me if you could hit it in training for maybe a touch and go, but to do it at a meet and paused is quite a stretch IMO.

I don't see anything unrealistic about a 500 lbs squat, though.

[lifterut]

A 400 lbs bench in the 83 kg/181 lbs category is a fairly exclusive club that not many people are going to make. At World's last year, not many people hit a 400 lbs bench: http://www.powerlifting-ipf.com/file...oresheet_m.htm. I'm not sure how tall Haack is, but Gibbs is on the shorter side of 5'4" I believe. It wouldn't surprise me if you could hit it in training for maybe a touch and go, but to do it at a meet and paused is quite a stretch IMO.

I don't see anything unrealistic about a 500 lbs squat, though.

I have only benched 400 and over when I weight 250 or more. The problem is my A1C and blood pressure start to go up fast once I weight over 235-ish. Bench 400, or be healthy when my grandkids are born?

[HarryFlashman]

I have only benched 400 and over when I weight 250 or more. The problem is my A1C and blood pressure start to go up fast once I weight over 235-ish. Bench 400, or be healthy when my grandkids are born?

You mean when you weigh over 235?

OP you are not going to have to worry about getting 'too big'. Just get as big and strong as you can. If you're not taking steroids, you'll never be too big.

[getbigordie18]

So a little background on myself, I am 5'10 inches tall (well officially, about 5'10" and 1/2") and 33 years-old. I have started working out following the 5x5 program. Right now I am a weakling still, at least by strength standards. When I first started, I could only squat (for reps) 120 lbs. I managed to get up to 200, but then had slacked off due to starting work and school, but I've since worked out a way to do it again. I had declined to 150 for 5 reps on the squat, but now I am back up to 170, so in a few weeks I should hopefully be back up to 200 again.

I also was 145 lbs when I started working out, got up to 160, went back to about 153, but now back up to 160 again (I do a very clean bulk while following 5x5). Anyways, I have the ultimate strength goals of being able to do a 400 lb bench press, 500 lb squat, and 600 lb deadlift. However, I am wondering how much muscle mass I would need to be able to do that? Like could I achieve that at a weight of 180 lbs, as that is I think what I would like to reach weight-wise, as that will look very aesthetic and proportional. However, I don't know if I can reach those numbers at that weight level. If I had to go to 200+ lbs, that might look too big for my height.

I would be happy with squatting 400 if need be, but 500 would be really nice to reach. Thanks.

more muscle mass than me i only squat 375 pounds....

[jgm019]

more muscle mass than me i only squat 375 pounds....

Not true, just depends. I weigh 145 lbs and squatted 325 lbs high bar, body mechanics do matter.

[lifterut]

You mean when you weigh over 235?

OP you are not going to have to worry about getting 'too big'. Just get as big and strong as you can. If you're not taking steroids, you'll never be too big.

Yeh. Frikkin phone auto-correct.

[Budaan]

I did it at 220.

[Siggy66]

Those are very attainable goals minus the bench, but I've learned never say never.

[jjackson556]

So a little background on myself, I am 5'10 inches tall (well officially, about 5'10" and 1/2") and 33 years-old. I have started working out following the 5x5 program. Right now I am a weakling still, at least by strength standards. When I first started, I could only squat (for reps) 120 lbs. I managed to get up to 200, but then had slacked off due to starting work and school, but I've since worked out a way to do it again. I had declined to 150 for 5 reps on the squat, but now I am back up to 170, so in a few weeks I should hopefully be back up to 200 again.

I also was 145 lbs when I started working out, got up to 160, went back to about 153, but now back up to 160 again (I do a very clean bulk while following 5x5). Anyways, I have the ultimate strength goals of being able to do a 400 lb bench press, 500 lb squat, and 600 lb deadlift. However, I am wondering how much muscle mass I would need to be able to do that? Like could I achieve that at a weight of 180 lbs, as that is I think what I would like to reach weight-wise, as that will look very aesthetic and proportional. However, I don't know if I can reach those numbers at that weight level. If I had to go to 200+ lbs, that might look too big for my height.

I would be happy with squatting 400 if need be, but 500 would be really nice to reach. Thanks.

I can say with complete confidence that you will be your strongest when you are your most muscular. Dr. Casey Butts has some very good predictive equations concerning your muscular potential based on wrist and ankle measurements. You can check this link out for some more info on it if you like. http://www.tierthreetactical.com/nat...ssfit-athlete/

That being said you need to continue to do your 5x5 program until you no longer get results from it. Once you've plateau switch to a program with a little more volume and intensity. Stronglifts is pretty good for that. The key here isn't to focus on what could be. Just be consistent and you'll find out.

[Billy_Biceps]

At 5'6 I did it at 190.

[MendozaPower]

what are u guys talking about? Sergey fedosienko 58kg, benched 170kg

[DarkHorse500]

We need to be realistic when comparing ourselves to others. Different levers, limb lengths, femur lengths etc. Different people are built for different lifts. Of course make sure you only compare yourself with people on similar supplements (and "supplements") to you too.

what are u guys talking about? Sergey fedosienko 58kg, benched 170kg

He's not relevant here for so many different reasons that we really don't have to go in to.

[pterry0404]

I'm not sure the answer is as simple as how much muscle mass you need. It will take years of specific, dedicated, and consistent training to hit your goal.

That said it is very possible.

[dtaps24]

You would need to weigh 202.6758 lbs. with a lean body mass of 173.27963 lbs. I think you'll find you are very happy with your body composition at this weight and very aesthetic while avoiding the common pitfall of being too heavy for your height. It would be helpful if in the future when you are looking for this type of analysis you included your shoe size, eye color, and first pet's first name and birthday.

[EjnarKolinkar]

That being said you need to continue to do your 5x5 program until you no longer get results from it.

^This, people play with calculators and compare to mean data maxes way too much. Focus on steady progress in the log book and a reasonable rate of weight gain to support training. You will know a lot more in a year or two, and have more confidence.