Trump's First Test As Dealmaker In Chief Comes Tomorrow

[SillieBazzillie]

He ran bigly on his ability to broker deals, let's see what happens tomorrow. He's gone all-in on this TrumpCare.

[Tier0]

The bill will likely die and Ryan will take the fall. No biggie lol.

[SillieBazzillie]

So he goes all-in, threatens his GOP congressmen, the bill subsequently gets squashed, and this has no bearing on his supposed deal making skillz?

Interdasting.

[Gunite]

So Trump has to agree to any pos that Ryan puts in front of him, or he fails?

Interdasting.

[Tha big kahoona]

So Trump has to agree to any pos that Ryan puts in front of him, or he fails?

Interdasting.

He doesn't have to. But he did. He's praised it and has been pushing for it hard

[Blainex]

He doesn't have to. But he did. He's praised it and has been pushing for it hard

Hard is an understatement.

Threatening those who don't vote for it will lose their seat.

[dysenterygary]

He doesn't have to. But he did. He's praised it and has been pushing for it hard

surely President Trump isn't employing some tactic where he pushes for one extreme in order to get dems to compromise on something in the middle

surely

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fuk why did I reply to this chitty thread

[Gunite]

He doesn't have to. But he did. He's praised it and has been pushing for it hard

Trump's idea of a perfect replacement for ObamaCare is Universal Healthcare, so I'm not sure where you're going with this.

[SillieBazzillie]

Look, Trump choose to go all-in on this stupid bill. I was just bringing up the fact of how we were all told what an amazing deal maker he'd be.

Trump supporters Let's assume the bill dies in the House (it may not), is this not a reasonable question?

Or will I get the typical: libcuck, libtard, surely this will be the end of Trump's campaign, he's done more then Obama, etc etc etc

[arn710]

inb4 Sillie has another racist mental breakdown

[5x10]

I guess if trumps close ratio isn't 100%, he must be a failure?

[wesleysh21]

So he goes all-in, threatens his GOP congressmen, the bill subsequently gets squashed, and this has no bearing on his supposed deal making skillz?

Interdasting.

One strong point he makes about deal making is being willing to walk away from the table. So walking away and letting Obamacare implode and forcing GOP members of congress to go back to their people without the repeal that they promised is probably on the table still. Being a deal maker is not all about being able to ram a deal thru on cue.

You lose leverage when you are not willing to walk away from the table. Again, per Mr. Trump.

[wesleysh21]

I guess if trumps close ratio isn't 100%, he must be a failure?

In Art of the Deal one of the lessons is being willing to walk away from the table. Hence, if his close percentage was 100...he'd probably have gotten into a bunch of terrible deals in order to do it. If the deals not right, walk away.

[StiffSproles]

inb4 Sillie has another racist mental breakdown

Lol, this.

OP is a terrible human being. Racist, elitist (for no reason) and just generally full of ****.

[gixxer0.6g]

I personally think he will have this wall built before we get a healthcare plan we can agree on....but then again






The real questions is, how long before Obamacare fails?

[Ge_Tech]

As I have said before, Trump has missed an opportunity here. He could have brought both parties together and come up with a healthcare plan that really helps the American people. Instead, he gets behind this load of garbage. It seems he more interested in getting in done quickly and moving on to the next thing. Some dealmaker.

[SillieBazzillie]

Lol, this.

OP is a terrible human being. Racist, elitist (for no reason) and just generally full of ****.

Oh there's a very good reason I'm elitist my friend.

[TaeBoNinja]

Bill will pass. It's not an ideal way to end ACA, but the GOP is useless and Trump realizes this. Passing this bill, and working down Obamacare piece-meal is a better solution than the pipe dream "conservatives" have of just ending it and allowing millions without coverage. Just can't end a government program that easy

Trump with point out the other agendas they can get to like tax reform to make them bend the knee.

[Trapstar4.4]

curious what trump says if it fails. hes probably going to say "fck you all, and america... youre fcked. blame Obama"
thats one way to deal with, although not ideal

[Ausaric]

So he goes all-in, threatens his GOP congressmen, the bill subsequently gets squashed, and this has no bearing on his supposed deal making skillz?

Interdasting.

You don't understand negotiation.

[BrightThru2014]

Regardless of what you may think of the Bill, if it doesn't pass tomorrow it will be a serious L for the POTUS.

[Ausaric]

Regardless of what you may think of the Bill, if it doesn't pass tomorrow it will be a serious L for the POTUS.

Jesus Christ you don't get it.

[ceizer1985]

curious what trump says if it fails. hes probably going to say "fck you all, and america... youre fcked. blame Obama"
thats one way to deal with, although not ideal

Republicans control government. He just needs them to line up behind him which they aren't doing.

Some leader this orangutan.

[Kane_89]

https://twitter.com/RyanLizza/status/844721400954925056

This looks like a leaked text from a congressman or a staffer involved in it behind closed doors.

[TaeBoNinja]

Republicans control government. He just needs them to line up behind him which they aren't doing.

Some leader this orangutan.

It's all posturing actually. Would be moronic not to pass the bill considering all the other things that would hold up. At this point they're likely parsing out details.

[notdustofsnow]

this bill is such a poison pill for him

one thing i can give him credit for is he's usually the first rat to jump off a ship and has an acute sense to back out, or shift blame, or divert from anything bad and consequential

the fact that he's going all in on a bad bill that the koch brothers, breitbart, the freedom caucus, moderate republicans, the aarp, and dems hate just show how little he cares about healthcare, how little he grasps about it, and how easily he's being manipulated into passing something (ryan told him that they have to pass healthcare reform first before they get to cut taxes -- it's not true tho) that will legit haunt him.

[notdustofsnow]

i'm actually very very surprised he hasn't used the bully pulpit to get the house to actually pass something not this phucking bad.

it would have been the easiest and more credible thing for him to do given him being the "king of leverage"

[Nihiliste]

This thing better not pass. But there's no point trying to determine what his game is with this until the vote happens. Like all public figures, sometimes he's very transparent and sometimes he's clearly playing a different game. When he chastises congressmen publicly, we don't know what he's saying to them behind closed doors.

I can see either option being true; some back room deals expecting it to fail, or on the contrary, buying what ryan is selling about a multi stage replacement process due to senate voting rules.

[TaeBoNinja]

this bill is such a poison pill for him

one thing i can give him credit for is he's usually the first rat to jump off a ship and has an acute sense to back out, or shift blame, or divert from anything bad and consequential

the fact that he's going all in on a bad bill that the koch brothers, breitbart, the freedom caucus, moderate republicans, the aarp, and dems hate just show how little he cares about healthcare, how little he grasps about it, and how easily he's being manipulated into passing something (ryan told him that they have to pass healthcare reform first before they get to cut taxes -- it's not true tho) that will legit haunt him.

Ryan didn't invent the notion that ACA had to be dealt with, it's just reality. Largely because its about to implode and wreck the economy. So Trump can sit back and watch the economy burn, watch his agenda go to a standstill, or......do things piecemeal.

The Repubs had 6 years to find a replacement, and they didn't. That includes the freedom caucus too.

[GTS540]

https://twitter.com/RyanLizza/status/844721400954925056

This looks like a leaked text from a congressman or a staffer involved in it behind closed doors.