What do people really expect to happen with healthcare?

[dhawkeye1980]

Serious for both sides this chit storm was dumped on us by obama and there is no way to fix it and make everyone happy. What do you guys really expect to happen? We cant give healthcare to everyone, millions will have to lose it to balance out the budget. What do we do for the greater good here

[C Project]

Good pitch. That'll tell em.


"Your daughter might die because you can't afford surgery, but think of the others. You can always have another daughter."

[dhawkeye1980]

Good pitch. That'll tell em.


"Your daughter might die because you can't afford surgery, but think of the others. You can always have another daughter."

Just like everyother democrap nothing valuable to contribute

[C Project]

Just like everyother democrap nothing valuable to contribute

I'm not a Democrat, but you know that.

I am just expanding on what you already contributed lmao.

[Ge_Tech]

73 million people on Medicaid. The republicans want to end that. Good luck. Talk about closing the barn door after the horse got out.

[dhawkeye1980]

73 million people on Medicaid. The republicans want to end that. Good luck. Talk about closing the barn door after the horse got out.

How many of those are supposed to be on it? You are telling me we have 73million poor people on it? Thats ridiculous

[Quizifier]

Whatever Trump says is the solution to health care, everyone on this forum will follow suit.

Doesn't matter what he says, just the fact that he says it will be enough to convince the sheep here.

[chivasregal]

How many of those are supposed to be on it? You are telling me we have 73million poor people on it? Thats ridiculous

You are some kind of special, huh?

No wonder you're a lost 30+ year old looking for work/career advice on here.

For as much as you insult me, I actually feel bad for you. (srs)

[C Project]

What do we do for the greater good here

Oh you asked a question. Sorry, the lack of punctuation confused me. I thought you were saying we do it for the greater good.

Tough call. There is no reason the wealthiest and most powerful country can't take care of it's citizens. But at the expense of the tax payers? Has to be another way.

Before ACA it was insane to not have employer provided insurance too. Maybe the state line thing would help.

[dhawkeye1980]

You are some kind of special, huh?

No wonder you're a lost 30+ year old looking for work/career advice on here.

For as much as you insult me, I actually feel bad for you. (srs)

Since youve searched my post history then you know i make a **** ton more than you bubba so by all means feel sorry for me you fat slob

[Ge_Tech]

How many of those are supposed to be on it? You are telling me we have 73million poor people on it? Thats ridiculous

Probably most. It just shows this "free market approach" doesn't work. It never has and never will. How many insurance companies are going to compete for business among the sick and elderly?

[DamagedAndDull]

Single payer healthcare could just replace the Social Security/welfare system. It's cheaper for every individual to pay some taxes than paying hundreds of thousands of dollars out of pocket. SS is already funded entirely by payroll taxes, and since when are payroll taxes a huge chunk of anyone's paycheck? We don't necessarily have to raise the payroll taxes either, we could end tax exemptions for church properties and non-profits and close all tax loopholes to broaden the tax base and collect more revenue that was intended but was cut off due to loopholes. Each state could use the boost in property tax revenue to fund accordingly to the cost of living in their own borders.

Also, the GOP replacement isn't intended to be anything permanent, it's intentionally terrible so that it will get repealed so things will go back to the way they were before Obamacare.

[chivasregal]

Since youve searched my post history then you know i make a **** ton more than you bubba so by all means feel sorry for me you fat slob

Incorrect.

You posted a thread about a month ago asking for career advice on here on how to join ICE. I posted in the thread and gave you advice. You got called out for being a 30+ loser by others.

But I believe in karma so I will just stop there.

[dhawkeye1980]

Incorrect.

You posted a thread about a month ago asking for career advice on here on how to join ICE. I posted in the thread and gave you advice. You got called out for being a 30+ loser by others.

But I believe in karma so I will just stop there.

Lmfao yea fattie thats what happened

[sawoobley]

CBO confirms: Full repeal of Obamacare is the ONLY way forward

https://www.conservativereview.com/c...ly-way-forward

[JD805]

Trump said he would get everyone covered, much better and much cheaper than under obama. He said it was going to be easy.

[GhenghisPWN]

Trump said he would get everyone covered, much better and much cheaper than under obama. He said it was going to be easy.

Why doesn't Trump do what he said he'd do?

I'd have an iota of respect for him if he'd put some effort in, but it feels like he sits in his room watching TV until the weekend rolls around so he can go golf. Does Trump have his own ideas/policy or does he just let everyone around him form his agenda? This healthcare plan DOES NOT in any way, shape, or form resemble his campaign promises.

This is a Paul Ryan wet dream, not Trump keeping his promise.

[bluethunder19]

Trump said he would get everyone covered, much better and much cheaper than under obama. He said it was going to be easy.

Well, no one knew healthcare would be so complicated

[meenman83]

Incorrect.

You posted a thread about a month ago asking for career advice on here on how to join ICE. I posted in the thread and gave you advice. You got called out for being a 30+ loser by others.

But I believe in karma so I will just stop there.

ICE is hard to get into, you need to know someone within the agency.

Chivas you need to go back; every post you make is misinformation that even my 5 year old could research and present more gooder.

[sawoobley]

Louie Gohmert: We Passed Full Repeal With 'Stupid Byrd Rule' Two Years Ago!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybjtPcIvnCg

[JrM703]

Democrats: Short term gains, long term problems, and a dependent constituency.

Republicans: Short term problems, long terms gains, and a self sufficient constituency.

Our health care battle and the political sides, are easily defined by the above characterizations.

[BrocepCurls]

This healthcare reform will lead to more dead Americans in one single year than what every extremist Muslim group combined could ever dream of achieving in their entire history.

This following an explicit promise by the Liar-in-Chief that he would 'take care of everyone, which turned out to be the opposite of the truth.

I see OP, still yet to rediscover his critical faculties since becoming a Trump disciple, has attempted to somehow spin this into a positive.

[JrM703]

This healthcare reform will lead to more dead Americans in one single year than what every extremist Muslim group combined could ever dream of achieving in their entire history.

This following an explain promise by the Liar-in-Chief that he would 'take care of everyone, which turned out to be the opposite of the truth.

I see OP, still yet to rediscover his critical faculties since becoming a Trump disciple, has attempted to somehow spin this into a positive.

The people that were uninsured before the ACA, are going to be uninsured again because they can't afford [X service]. Reduce your expenses, get a full time job, and buy insurance, like everyone does with any good or service they want.

Healthcare isn't a right. The indoctrination to believe it is, is the biggest crock of chit this decade. The idea that I am subsidizing someone that is a substance abuser (alcohol or drugs), is obese from poor dieting, or STDs from sexual promiscuity is asinine.

...and yes substance abuse sexually transmitted diseases, and obesity are the primary strains on our health care system, coupled with psychological/mental health disorders.

Thanks for falling hook line and sinker for the fear tactics by the ACA proponents.

[BrocepCurls]

The people that were uninsured before the ACA, are going to be uninsured again because they can't afford [X service]. Reduce your expenses, get a full time job, and buy insurance, like everyone does with any good or service they want.

Healthcare isn't a right. The indoctrination to believe it is, is the biggest crock of chit this decade. The idea that I am subsidizing someone that is a substance abuser (alcohol or drugs), is obese from poor dieting, or STDs from sexual promiscuity is asinine.

...and yes substance abuse sexually transmitted diseases, and obesity are the primary strains on our health care system, coupled with psychological/mental health disorders.

Thanks for falling hook line and sinker for the fear tactics by the ACA proponents.

Of course, leave it to a Republican ****-for-brains to think the world is so binary that all poor people need to do is 'stop being poor'. If only someone had told them that!

Why, when Trump spent his whole campaign promising that he would increase access to healthcare, is it not an issue when he ends up doing the exact opposite of his promises? Why, when this will directly and unquestionably lead to the deaths of thousands upon thousands of Americans, are Trump supporters not even interested?

[JrM703]

Of course, leave it to a Republican ****-for-brains to think the world is so binary that all poor people need to do is 'stop being poor'. If only someone had told them that!

Why, when Trump spent his whole campaign promising that he would increase access to healthcare, is it not an issue when he ends up doing the exact opposite of his promises? Why, when this will directly and unquestionably lead to the deaths of thousands upon thousands of Americans, are Trump supporters not even interested?

Please explain to me how a government that produces no tangible product is suppose to provide free healthcare to a Nation of 350+ million people?

Your Fantasia is ill conceived and impossible in a market, motivation, driven world. Free services, high tax rates, have lead to huge Debt:GDP ratios in Europe, and the productivity of those within those nations unsurprisingly has dropped. The EU is crumbling, unsustainable books in Europe, and you want to go down the same path with 3x the population?

Europe has given us collections of examples why not to do exactly what the Democrats want to do in the US.

Yes, you're an idiot.

[StoliFun]

Deductibles and premiums will continue to go up. Americans will whine but refuse to change their diets/lifestyle. Things will continue to suck more.

[JrM703]

Deductibles and premiums will continue to go up. Americans will whine but refuse to change their diets/lifestyle. Things will continue to suck more.

Dead on with the need for lifestyle change.
I hope people realize why health insurance generally covers preventive care.

[KINGFABIAN]

Of course, leave it to a Republican ****-for-brains to think the world is so binary that all poor people need to do is 'stop being poor'. If only someone had told them that!

Why, when Trump spent his whole campaign promising that he would increase access to healthcare, is it not an issue when he ends up doing the exact opposite of his promises? Why, when this will directly and unquestionably lead to the deaths of thousands upon thousands of Americans, are Trump supporters not even interested?

And the typical trumper response would be:


MAGA you cuck!!!!11

[BrocepCurls]

Please explain to me how a government that produces no tangible product is suppose to provide free healthcare to a Nation of 350+ million people?

Your Fantasia is ill conceived and impossible in a market, motivation, driven world. Free services, high tax rates, have lead to huge Debt:GDP ratios in Europe, and the productivity of those within those nations unsurprisingly has dropped. The EU is crumbling, unsustainable books in Europe, and you want to go down the same path with 3x the population?

Europe has given us collections of examples why not to do exactly what the Democrats want to do in the US.

Yes, you're an idiot.

European countries don't have tens of thousands of people a year dying from an inability to afford healthcare. They don't have people being financially crippled for life after having to pay for life-saving treatment. Every metric in existence ranks European healthcare systems ahead of that of the US. Vague, unsubstantiated conservative drivel is on your side, facts and statistics however are not.

Trump promised that he would take care of all Americans. He has repeatedly promised that he would not cut Medicaid. He lied. This isn't like most of his other lies; this will lead to the deaths of thousands of people, most significantly the poor working class Americans who voted for him in droves. Why, I ask again, is this not an issue in the minds of Trump supporters? How are you all so morally and intellectually bankrupt that you will continue to push 'refugees' as a significant issue facing the US, despite said refugees not causing a single problem on US soil, while Trump's healthcare reform will literally kill thousands of poor Americans who were promised increased access to healthcare?

[SillieBazzillie]

Please explain to me how a government that produces no tangible product is suppose to provide free healthcare to a Nation of 350+ million people?

Your Fantasia is ill conceived and impossible in a market, motivation, driven world. Free services, high tax rates, have lead to huge Debt:GDP ratios in Europe, and the productivity of those within those nations unsurprisingly has dropped. The EU is crumbling, unsustainable books in Europe, and you want to go down the same path with 3x the population?

Europe has given us collections of examples why not to do exactly what the Democrats want to do in the US.

Yes, you're an idiot.

None of what you noted about Europe is due to healthcare dolt. Europeans are happier and live longer lives than Americans do. We're the only first world country not to provide healthcare to all but somehow you Trumpers think that's a good thing. What you tards don't realize is that simply because the poor don't have coverage doesn't mean they won't post at the emergency dept when they're sick. What it does mean is that when they do seek healthcare often their issues have progressed to a point where the issue is now serious and very expensive.

With healthcare for all, people would seek PREVENTATIVE care and avoid many expensive future treatments. But you know the republicans see the long game and all. Freaking Trumpers...