Hey I was talkin to the Athletic Director at my High School the other day. He was sayin how some of the other HS's have their kids get in like 40 degree water for 3-5 minutes because it pulls the acid out of their muscles so they don't dee-teer-ee-8....(I can't spell)
I guess a lot of the Olympic athlets are swearing by it and do it after all tpyes of moderate physical activity.
I just wondered if any of you guys knew anything about it, and if it would be worth trying.
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03-03-2002, 06:47 PM #170+
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getting in COLD water after lifting weights to remove acid help build muscle???
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03-03-2002, 07:20 PM #2Banned
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i don't know about helping to build muscle but Don Bebee from the Green Bay Packers told me that it helps recovery
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that actually makes sense... cuz listen...... when u workout ur body gets hot and if u go inside cold water then the force of the cold water would be greater then the force of the heat in ur body and all the acid would get relived cuz the tension and buildup wouldnt be so great...... for ex. if u took ice out of a freezer and put it outside and it was say 80 degrees or more it would melt real fast because the heat is a greater force then the cold force of the ice, so the ice will melt and wont make the heat turn into cold (this ex sucks but i hope u get a lil idea)
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fukkkkk being small, i rather be bigger then them all!!!
Get ILL with IT!!!!!
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03-03-2002, 07:46 PM #4Registered User
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But wouldnt that make it hard for anything to get into your muscles to help repair them? Or am i WAY off, i always sucked at biology, actually i was really good, hahah, but i just dont get how this helps. Im not saying it doesnt though, so no flaming please, haha. I just dont understand.
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03-03-2002, 08:44 PM #570+
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I don't understand either, but I have been hearing some things about it, and wanted to know more about it. Anybody know anything about this!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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03-03-2002, 09:20 PM #6Banned
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yeah i saw some **** on the discovery channel about how marathon athletes soak their legs in ice bathes to prevent lactic acid...i dont know about you, but i'd rather take the lactic acid than the ice bath
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03-03-2002, 10:06 PM #7Registered User
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as far as i know it makes your blood rush and takes away the bad stuff. Try it in the shower turn on the cold water for a sec and see how it feels you will understand a little better then.
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03-03-2002, 11:25 PM #8Registered User
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Don't know about that but I do know when you're cold you're stronger.. there was a test on tv where they had athletes sit in a freezer that was about 0 degrees celsius and when they came out and lifted they could lift heavier
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03-03-2002, 11:52 PM #9
Reason putting cold water/ice packs on your body is because a)slows down enzymes so if you did injure yourself it will slow down the enzymes reacting to the injury which will lessen scar tissue build-up and inflamation b) Since it is cold it makes that bodypart cold and blood is then rushed to that area to warm it up, when this is done nutrients are also carried in the blood to that point, and it clears away the lactic acid a bit faster.
Whenever anything bothers me even a little bit during a workout I ice it immediately after workout, good way to prevent something small from becoming big. Also I don't know about the ice bathes, but I like to go into the hot tub relax and stretch out and then jump into the pool. The pool is not very cold but since your body was used to the hot tub it seems cold and gets blood really pumping. Ice is extremely powerful when dealing with injuries, it's been a huge help in healing my hand. Going from hot to cold is a great way to speed up healing process, always begin with hot and end with cold. As for being able to lift more when cold, even if this is true it is a bad idea to lift cold as your chances of injury will sky-rocket. Plus personally I do not believe that, muscles work better and lift more once they are warmed up. If they are exposed to cold they tense up and become more tough and hard and less flexible (bad explaination but I think you get the point, its like taffy, when its room temperature it stretches and has freedom of movement, if it is cold you can barely move it as it gets colder movement is restricted.
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Why not go in the sauna and have a cold shower after that way you sweat everything out and then wash it off, but the cold water also adds to the effect
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03-05-2002, 08:33 AM #11Registered User
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putting one dirty pair of socks in ur postworkout shake would give u huge gains .....
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03-05-2002, 09:32 AM #12Registered User
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Can i mix creatine with my socks?Originally posted by Awais
putting one dirty pair of socks in ur postworkout shake would give u huge gains .....
j/k
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No, that makes absolutely no scientific sense. I doubt making one's muscles cold helps remove lactic acid. If you have a lactic acid problem, do more cardio, and that'll improve your situation. Besides, putting muscles that are full of blood in ice water is bad because the temperature change shocks them and makes them stiff. You only do that when you have a bad injury to reduce swelling. Heat loosens muscles and makes them ready for activity.Originally posted by LiFtInIsFuN
that actually makes sense... cuz listen...... when u workout ur body gets hot and if u go inside cold water then the force of the cold water would be greater then the force of the heat in ur body and all the acid would get relived cuz the tension and buildup wouldnt be so great...... for ex. if u took ice out of a freezer and put it outside and it was say 80 degrees or more it would melt real fast because the heat is a greater force then the cold force of the ice, so the ice will melt and wont make the heat turn into cold (this ex sucks but i hope u get a lil idea)The will to survive is stronger than anything else.
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03-05-2002, 01:43 PM #14Banned
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i thought lactic acid just makes you soarr. i didnt know it hinders your gains, does it?
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03-05-2002, 05:59 PM #15Actually it is a fact that it helps clear lactic acid faster than normal because of increase blood flow to the area. Ice has many more uses, as I described above, than just reducing swelling. Although ice makes muscles stiff as long as you aren't going to use them in the next hour or so they will loosen up by then. Also I agree that the example about the cold having more force is wrong. Ice works in the way I have described above.Originally posted by Gohan321
No, that makes absolutely no scientific sense. I doubt making one's muscles cold helps remove lactic acid. If you have a lactic acid problem, do more cardio, and that'll improve your situation. Besides, putting muscles that are full of blood in ice water is bad because the temperature change shocks them and makes them stiff. You only do that when you have a bad injury to reduce swelling. Heat loosens muscles and makes them ready for activity.
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03-05-2002, 06:02 PM #16
Lactic acid doesn't directly inhibit gains, but if come leg day you still got lactic acid in your legs that hasn't been cleared you are not going to perform nearly as well as you would if it were clear. Just because you are sore doesn't neccessarily mean the muscles aren't recovered, it could just mean the lactic acid hasn't been cleared yet. Ice and movement with little to no resistance can also help clear lactic acid (i.e. the day after a really killer chest day do some bench with just the bar to get blood flowing to your chest, which will in turn clear lactic acid).
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lactic acid is a sign of muscle breakdown. My way of getting unsore is to eat.
j/k
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