Best pre for Focus? Like Nitramine - nootropics? also do they expire?

[whatlimit]

Nitramine seems to be off the grid? Anyone know why they arent out there(I know i read about the FDA deal but i thought they be back)

I found them only on some random sites or ebay.

I was thinking it may be worth to stash a few tubs or something so i dont have to keep looking every couple months but it got me thinking maybe its time to switch since its 2017 and all(new product? or 2016 products?)

Mainly looking for that lazer focus from nitramine (Im a student and I feel like I can go workout then straight to study under this stuff so looking for something similar or better.Plus this tend to last a few hours of focus for me.

Things ive tried.
old craze - no experience with v2,
focus xt- good but a bit mild
neosurge - better than xt but no where near nitramine
blue star ppk- awesome pre. energy and pump but lack that focus.


Im also taking ALCAR on the daily.


any suggestions?


Also side question, a friend of mine found a tub of nitramine that expired june of last year when he cleaned out his kitchen cabinet(closed/sealed and all) is this any good or just trash it?

im tempted to try it but i also dont know if it actually goes bad.
-It looked like an old version / lower caffeine and different label.

[showjo1josh]

My top three favorite pres are mesomorph, warp-5 and high volume. Probably in that order. Meso has 65mg dmaa and 300mg if you take the full serving. It's a very strong pre workout but gives me tons of energy and focus.

[eatyourspinach]

You aren't going to find anything with the Picamilon that Nitramine has, anything with a lot of stims will help keep focused during a workout. Olympus Labs Elixir is a supplement deisgned to aid focus but it isn't a pre workout. Look into theacrine.

[TrainerTone]

The new PPK from Blue Star gives me some major focus and is a definite upgrade over the original version. Also like ErgoPre for focus.

I haven't tried but have heard great things about PES Prolific especially in regards to the focus it provides

[Partyrocking]

IIRC Myokem is currently reformulating products/introducing new ones. I don't know the timeline though.

Conquer Unleashed is pretty good in terms of focus as is Noowave POWR. I also liked the og Speed X3, but it's been reformulated.

[TMac26]

Try any pre with Elevate


http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bl...s/elevate.html

[Deadliftin]

Try any pre with Elevate


http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bl...s/elevate.html

Elevate is awesome. I've used a few bottles myself, one thanks to this good man.

ANS Rave is relatively new... a few members on here have tried samples or tubs and have commented on strong focus and mind/muscle connection. High stim, but overall a pretty good profile.

FocusXT is also great... and though I haven't tried it, lots of forum members also like APS Mesomorph.

[poison]

Teacrine is fantastic, I'm taking it with my morning coffee for my new high-stress, high-concentration job. It helps a lot.

ANS Rave is probably the best high-stimmed focus aid I've tried recently. It's gentler than dmaa, but boosts focus more, it's happier, and lasts a freaking long time (so does teacrine, btw, but it's not crazy energy-wise).

[poison]

Try any pre with Elevate


http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bl...s/elevate.html

Tell me more.

[Hooverville]

I would put in votes for Rave and Elevate as well.

Also you said you are using ALCAR daily. If you want an all in one product check out Velocity Ultra

It has the ALCAR already and is legit for focus and high energy.

Samples? PM me.

[Deadliftin]

Teacrine is fantastic, I'm taking it with my morning coffee for my new high-stress, high-concentration job. It helps a lot.

ANS Rave is probably the best high-stimmed focus aid I've tried recently. It's gentler than dmaa, but boosts focus more, it's happier, and lasts a freaking long time (so does teacrine, btw, but it's not crazy energy-wise).

Thanks buddy!

[wolfLarson]

Nitramine is going through a second reformulation....

On esupplements, theres a deal to buy mtor pro with an old version of nitramine for free for around $35.

I agree with ya thou OP, nitramine is the best focus pre workout, and as also helped with school papers lol

[robert5891]

Nitramine and the rest of Myokem's lineup are undergoing a bit of a reformulation currently, so that's why their products are scarce at the moment.

For intense focus pre workouts, check out:

APS Mesomorph
PES Prolific
ATP Kinetic
Blue Star Elevate

[urg862]

Off the top of my head:

Cellucor C4 Neuro
Cellucor C4 Ultimate
ErgoPre
Komodo Katana V4
Velocity Ultra (Feel free to ask for samples)
Olympus Labs Conqu3r Unleashed
PES Prolific

[whatlimit]

sooo much to try so going to try and narrow it down 3 category


These are not really pre? Im going to have to give these a try
olympus Labs Elixir
theacrine


just doing a quick search looks like these were more focused based--- The rave looks like gets the most vote so thats the first to try.
ans rave
elevate
ergo pre
warp 5
velocity ultra
PES Prolific


These were more workout based / pump / energy - Im going to not bother with these. Im sure they give some people focus but they seem more for the other part.
mesomorph
high volume
conquer unleashed
noowave powr
PES Prolific

thanks guys

[BenBlue]

I have a really hard time believing all the hype on rave (and I typically like ANS products). So under-dosed.

[Misctake7]

DMAA/DMHA will be your friend if you're seeking a good focus preworkout.

Mesomorph
Dust Extreme
God of Rage
SP250
Total War

Only a couple pre's without DMAA will give you very good focus from my experience.

Cutler Legend Pro
AE Steel Edge
RCSS Yeah Buddy

[eatyourspinach]

I have a really hard time believing all the hype on rave (and I typically like ANS products). So under-dosed.

Not to be a skeptical hippo but some of the store reviewers are a little sketchy http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/Krystle2684/ http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/donzzz/ http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/ivalliere/

[BenBlue]

Not to be a skeptical hippo but some of the store reviewers are a little sketchy http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/Krystle2684/ http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/donzzz/ http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/ivalliere/

You got that right. Have seen enough forum posts complimenting it's effects though. Has me scratching my head.

[poison]

Not to be a skeptical hippo but some of the store reviewers are a little sketchy http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/Krystle2684/ http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/donzzz/ http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/ivalliere/

Meh. It's the best I've tried. maybe the LIon's Mane is underdosed, but that's not what provides the mood, focus, and energy boost. Those ingredients aren't underdosed. It's top tier.

[eatyourspinach]

Meh. It's the best I've tried. maybe the LIon's Mane is underdosed, but that's not what provides the mood, focus, and energy boost. Those ingredients aren't underdosed. It's top tier.

Must be the sausage tree fruit extract.

[poison]

Must be the sausage tree fruit extract.

No, it's the caffeine and dmha. Maybe you should try it.

[forevertwink]

Rave is pretty good. I went through 10 samples of it....I found I needed to do 1.5/2 scoops to get desired focus but that was a little too much caffeine for me.

has anyone tried BPI's Gamer targeted product? its called "XP" ?

[Sgt T-Man]

My fav focused based pre is Magnum Limitless, that gets me dialled in...almost too much focus.

[Hooverville]

Rave is no joke at 2 scoops.







Or if you want to party

















One scoop with a bronkaid.

[AMeyer9]

OP, Nitramine will be back soon enough. I'd go with ANS Rave in the meantime. Pink Lemonade and Blue Raspberry are both solid flavors

[VO2Maxima]

These are not really pre? Im going to have to give these a try
olympus Labs Elixir

There is no reason Elix1r can't be used preworkout. You're going to get an energy boost from the caffeine and j. regia, which is what a lot of people want in a preworkout anyway. On top of that, there will be cognitive enhancement and improved focus from the aforementioned stims, plus bacopa, ALCAR, and galantamine. The Alpha-GPC, along with aiding focus, also may increase power output. And ashwagandha (Sensoril) is an adaptogen that will help to reduce not only stress, but also fatigue.

[stan47islav]

No, it's the caffeine and dmha. Maybe you should try it.

Honesty that's pretty much what it is... 400mg of caffeine would give most people loads of energy.
Kind of seems like they did that on purpose to make up for the underdosed ingredients.

Love ritual though.

To op

Mesomorph
Game day
Most Pre-workouts with Teacrine

For focus for me

[JayLS1-327]

Carbon Prep is another solid choice.

[poison]

Honesty that's pretty much what it is... 400mg of caffeine would give most people loads of energy.
Kind of seems like they did that on purpose to make up for the underdosed ingredients.

Love ritual though.

To op

Mesomorph
Game day
Most Pre-workouts with Teacrine

For focus for me

You're ignoring the dmha, which has a significant effect.