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    Originally Posted by DamonX View Post
    Soon... BSL got cracked down for being shady.
    Ive heard the guys at BSL's are pretty greasy. So that would make sense.
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    Ive heard the guys at BSL's are pretty greasy. So that would make sense.
    Except its a complete fabrication they are not affiliated that I have ever heard ever

    The owner of Platinum Labs and there team has nothing to do with PJ or prior Aaron either it's not even based in the same state Platinum Labs is in NY while all of PJ's stuff is in Boca; Further if PJ had anything to do with it he would have discussed it on any number of his live feeds or his discussions I have never heard it brought up.

    Terry Katz is the CEO of platnium Labz it is not a "Sister Company" or even owned or sourced out of the same warehouses

    Prime Nutrition was a Sister Company and they likely had a hand in a Research Company that was closed down and PJ owns a few other businesses including his work with his wife's business Celestial Bodies and another smaller company neither of those are "Platnium Labz".
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    Originally Posted by Rob1882 View Post
    Except its a complete fabrication they are not affiliated that I have ever heard ever

    The owner of Platinum Labs and there team has nothing to do with PJ or prior Aaron either it's not even based in the same state Platinum Labs is in NY while all of PJ's stuff is in Boca; Further if PJ had anything to do with it he would have discussed it on any number of his live feeds or his discussions I have never heard it brought up.

    Terry Katz is the CEO of platnium Labz it is not a "Sister Company" or even owned or sourced out of the same warehouses

    they originally said they were sister companies. otherwise i wouldn't have said anything.

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    Originally Posted by Rob1882 View Post
    Except its a complete fabrication they are not affiliated that I have ever heard ever

    The owner of Platinum Labs and there team has nothing to do with PJ or prior Aaron either it's not even based in the same state Platinum Labs is in NY while all of PJ's stuff is in Boca; Further if PJ had anything to do with it he would have discussed it on any number of his live feeds or his discussions I have never heard it brought up.

    Terry Katz is the CEO of platnium Labz it is not a "Sister Company" or even owned or sourced out of the same warehouses

    Prime Nutrition was a Sister Company and they likely had a hand in a Research Company that was closed down and PJ owns a few other businesses including his work with his wife's business Celestial Bodies and another smaller company neither of those are "Platnium Labz".

    lol I think you quoted the wrong person Rob
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    Originally Posted by DamonX View Post
    they originally said they were sister companies.
    When? and Where? Show me any video of PJ Braun ( Or Aaron when he was CEO of Blackstone ) in which he/they is or are claiming works with/partially owns or operates it.

    They teamed up on a booth once in a video but I never seen anything of them working together or in which they operated Platinum Labz
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    I heard BSL reps would get their holiday bonuses rectally. Can a former rep or two confirm?
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    Originally Posted by OT2000 View Post
    I heard BSL reps would get their holiday bonuses rectally. Can a former rep or two confirm?
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    Originally Posted by Rob1882 View Post
    When? and Where? Show me any video of PJ Braun ( Or Aaron when he was CEO of Blackstone ) in which he/they is or are claiming works with/partially owns or operates it.

    They teamed up on a booth once in a video but I never seen anything of them working together or in which they operated Platinum Labz
    im not about to dig up years old info, of them saying it. but anyways... heres a video that took me half a second to find.


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    Originally Posted by DamonX View Post
    im not about to dig up years old info, of them saying it. but anyways... heres a video that took me half a second to find.


    PRIME, BSL, PLATINUM LABS.. all manufactured at the same company.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7ylcx8YAQE
    Again Blackstone Lab's gets a lot of products produced by Hi-Tech this does not make Blackstone owned by Hi-Tech nor would it ever make it a "Sister" company to Hi-Tech the same for duracap who produces some past BSL products.

    In an interview on MD ( A part of )

    "Blackstone Labs has become very popular in Australia and when our exclusive distributors, Platinum Labs, brought PJ Braun and I out there last month and we saw how popular THEIR products were, we asked if we could carry them here in USA! We were thrilled when the Platinum guys said "YES"!

    We want all of your to try these awesome products, so till the end of the month you can use the code <> off all Platinum Labs Products!

    DEFCON1 is #1 in Australia" on MD from several years ago..

    Dozens of interviews of Aaron Singerman on Iron Radio and others as well PJ Braun giving there entire history in bodybuilding and all companies they worked for and ran no mention of Platinum Labz in those.

    Check out interviews with ProjectBodybuilding as well which Aaron discusses his history and the start of blackstone; Where is Platnium Labz in any of those?
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    Originally Posted by Rob1882 View Post
    Again Blackstone Lab's gets a lot of products produced by Hi-Tech this does not make Blackstone owned by Hi-Tech nor would it ever make it a "Sister" company to Hi-Tech the same for duracap who produces some past BSL products.

    In an interview on MD

    "Blackstone Labs has become very popular in Australia and when our exclusive distributors, Platinum Labs, brought PJ Braun and I out there last month and we saw how popular THEIR products were, we asked if we could carry them here in USA! We were thrilled when the Platinum guys said "YES"!

    We want all of your to try these awesome products, so till the end of the month you can use the code <> off all Platinum Labs Products!

    DEFCON1 is #1 in Australia" on MD from several years ago..

    Dozens of interviews of Aaron Singerman on Iron Radio and others as well PJ Braun giving there entire history in bodybuilding and all companies they worked for and ran no mention of Platinum Labz in those.
    I wouldn't say it, if I didn't hear it before or read it.
    But at the end of the day, does it really benefit us in any way to discuss whether or not they are sister companies? kind of a waste of time IMO


    post pics of food instead, I'm more interested in that <3
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    Originally Posted by DamonX View Post
    I wouldn't say it, if I didn't hear it before or read it.
    But at the end of the day, does it really benefit us in any way to discuss whether or not they are sister companies? kind of a waste of time IMO


    post pics of food instead, I'm more interested in that <3
    Yes let's talk about food and good eats. Like my skipped over post where I mentioned having a chocolate donut buff bake cookie and how it was very good despite not being a chocolate fan.

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    Originally Posted by Rob1882 View Post
    Again Blackstone Lab's gets a lot of products produced by Hi-Tech this does not make Blackstone owned by Hi-Tech nor would it ever make it a "Sister" company to Hi-Tech the same for duracap who produces some past BSL products.

    In an interview on MD ( A part of )

    "Blackstone Labs has become very popular in Australia and when our exclusive distributors, Platinum Labs, brought PJ Braun and I out there last month and we saw how popular THEIR products were, we asked if we could carry them here in USA! We were thrilled when the Platinum guys said "YES"!

    We want all of your to try these awesome products, so till the end of the month you can use the code <> off all Platinum Labs Products!

    DEFCON1 is #1 in Australia" on MD from several years ago..

    Dozens of interviews of Aaron Singerman on Iron Radio and others as well PJ Braun giving there entire history in bodybuilding and all companies they worked for and ran no mention of Platinum Labz in those.

    Check out interviews with ProjectBodybuilding as well which Aaron discusses his history and the start of blackstone; Where is Platnium Labz in any of those?
    Sounds like Iovate Health Sciences and how they have like 6 companies, that I know of, that go through them. I wonder how much they make from doing it that way.

    Originally Posted by crpav View Post
    Yes let's talk about food and good eats. Like my skipped over post where I mentioned having a chocolate donut buff bake cookie and how it was very good despite not being a chocolate fan.
    Not a fan of chocolate, ^BOO THIS MAN! lol
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    Sounds like Iovate Health Sciences and how they have like 6 companies, that I know of, that go through them. I wonder how much they make from doing it that way.
    That is much different and Iovate is a massive company; In those cases you have a lot more going on and many of them are acquisitions targeting specific markets in either case they disclose those companies as does Hi-Tech on its company website and companies it owns/operates. As did PJ Braun with Celestial Bodies, Prime Nutrition and Blackstone when they were operating all 3 at the same time prior to the split.

    Project Bodybuilding in 2015 did a very good Interview with PJ Braun if interested check that out they did one with Aaron as well on there history

    Originally Posted by crpav View Post
    Yes let's talk about food and good eats. Like my skipped over post where I mentioned having a chocolate donut buff bake cookie and how it was very good despite not being a chocolate fan.
    Pictures or it no count..
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    Originally Posted by YouMadOrMirin View Post
    Sounds like Iovate Health Sciences and how they have like 6 companies, that I know of, that go through them. I wonder how much they make from doing it that way.



    Not a fan of chocolate, ^BOO THIS MAN! lol
    Come on man I've had rough few weeks

    Originally Posted by Rob1882 View Post
    That is much different and Iovate is a massive company; In those cases you have a lot more going on and many of them are acquisitions targeting specific markets in either case they disclose those companies as does Hi-Tech on its company website and companies it owns/operates. As did PJ Braun with Celestial Bodies, Prime Nutrition and Blackstone when they were operating all 3 at the same time prior to the split.

    Project Bodybuilding in 2015 did a very good Interview with PJ Braun if interested check that out they did one with Aaron as well on there history



    Pictures or it no count..
    Same as above, rough few weeks I was thinking on the drive to the gym this morning how I look forward to your posts with the detail and the time you put into taking pictures. I just don't have that time man.

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    Come on man I've had rough few weeks



    Same as above, rough few weeks I was thinking on the drive to the gym this morning how I look forward to your posts with the detail and the time you put into taking pictures. I just don't have that time man.
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    Originally Posted by Rob1882 View Post
    I never had a buff bake cookie or their spread
    Ive had most of their cookies and a tub of their birthday cake spread. Also have a few sample packets of a few spreads.

    Most cookies are so so. Prefer Lenny and Larry over them but I did find this Chocolate Donut to be very good. Soft and chewy and more like a good homemade brownie. Has frosting and sprinkles bro!

    For the spreads the birthday cake wasn't bad but the Nuts & More I just opened is way better. I tried a sample packet of the red velvet buff bake spread and found it terrible. Like a burnt chocolate or something.

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    Originally Posted by crpav View Post
    Ive had most of their cookies and a tub of their birthday cake spread. Also have a few sample packets of a few spreads.

    Most cookies are so so. Prefer Lenny and Larry over them but I did find this Chocolate Donut to be very good. Soft and chewy and more like a good homemade brownie. Has frosting and sprinkles bro!

    For the spreads the birthday cake wasn't bad but the Nuts & More I just opened is way better. I tried a sample packet of the red velvet buff bake spread and found it terrible. Like a burnt chocolate or something.
    I will have to try the chocolate doughnut cookie if you say its pretty good I'll try it
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    Having tried all the DMAA pres out right now. Id say that-

    Dust Extreme and Centurian God of Rage (now known as just Rage) are the top two. They are very close, probably a wash, but id give the ever so slightest edge to Dust Extreme, but would rather give my money to Centurian than BSL. Both of these are better than SP250. My favorite is GOW Red because of my personal love for AMP-C.

    I have actually had a great result mixing a half scoop of GOW Red and God of Rage (so 1/2 AMP-C / DMAA). I know most would say Im just getting a shallow dose of both, but its actually treated me quite well.

    As I stated earlier I firmly beleive American Metabolix Warpath is the best non DMAA / AMP C pre out by far.

    I have also heard a ton of positive feedback by the half and half scoop of Dust Extreme + Dust V2, however I have yet to try that.
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    Flavor God: Pizza, Bacon Lover, and Gingerbread cookie are all effing awesome. Chocolate Donut was whatever. Be careful with the gingerbread cookie though its one of those 1/8 tsp servings but its got actual sugar in it, so you are like "sweet no cals" and dump a half a bottle on some sh|t....
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    Originally Posted by 82ndAirborne View Post
    Having tried all the DMAA pres out right now. Id say that-

    Dust Extreme and Centurian God of Rage (now known as just Rage) are the top two. They are very close, probably a wash, but id give the ever so slightest edge to Dust Extreme, but would rather give my money to Centurian than BSL. Both of these are better than SP250. My favorite is GOW Red because of my personal love for AMP-C.

    I have actually had a great result mixing a half scoop of GOW Red and God of Rage (so 1/2 AMP-C / DMAA). I know most would say Im just getting a shallow dose of both, but its actually treated me quite well.

    As I stated earlier I firmly beleive American Metabolix Warpath is the best non DMAA / AMP C pre out by far.

    I have also heard a ton of positive feedback by the half and half scoop of Dust Extreme + Dust V2, however I have yet to try that.
    My first re-dip into DMAA pres(used Jack3d when it was originally released plus bulk 1,3) was Mesomorph and since tolerance was 0 it was amazing the first several uses. I then tried Wicked but didn't get blown away. God of Rage hit pretty good as did Dust Extreme. SP 250 I find so so. I only ever use the recommended 1 scoop or 2 if it says that's the normal max serving. I still get good workoutsbut no tunnel vision.

    As for AMP I only have and use God of War red and love it.

    DMHA is another good one to add to the rotation. Kraken is my favorite but have Total War and Dvst8 Crimson ready to open and use. I have used the new Gameday but was a while back and wasn't super impressed but was so long ago and hard to judge with 1 sample.

    Not sure where Conquer Unleashed lies with stims. I had a sample way back and the flavor is well we know. I have a full sealed tub to get to so someday. Also Dust V2 is good, the old V2 or whatever.

    I also have plenty of other pres with your standard stims like Steel Edge, Prolific(4 tubs) and so many others I just cycle through and never seem to clear the backlog.

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    I consistently ask my wife to try protein shakes or sometimes other supplements I think are good...usually she is not impressed and generically says she doesn't like protein powders.

    I just mixed some Precision Neapolitan in skim Fairlife and she thinks she may start having it for breakfast. That's a first...and it was not as good as in 2% even

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    I consistently ask my wife to try protein shakes or sometimes other supplements I think are good...usually she is not impressed and generically says she doesn't like protein powders.

    I just mixed some Precision Neapolitan in skim Fairlife and she thinks she may start having it for breakfast. That's a first...and it was not as good as in 2% even
    Nice!

    My wife has me blend up Banana Cream mostly, tho she uses the french vanilla with oats.
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    Actually today was epic on that front, I just remembered, she has been up since 4am and was tired enough this afternoon to try the VPX Bang Star Blast and liked it too

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Actually today was epic on that front, I just remembered, she has been up since 4am and was tired enough this afternoon to try the VPX Bang Star Blast and liked it too
    You try that black cherry vanilla yet? It's pretty good too
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    Originally Posted by Rob1882 View Post
    You try that black cherry vanilla yet? It's pretty good too
    No. I even went to VS today and just left with a protes bbq protein chips or some **** the guy there said was good when I asked to try something new, and a box of Oh Yeah One Cinnamon Roll. I just got another 12 pack of the Star Blast and I like it so no need to decide I need to buy another flavor...I may try the other flavor when this 12 pack runs low

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    I consistently ask my wife to try protein shakes or sometimes other supplements I think are good...usually she is not impressed and generically says she doesn't like protein powders.

    I just mixed some Precision Neapolitan in skim Fairlife and she thinks she may start having it for breakfast. That's a first...and it was not as good as in 2% even
    I'm with you on that brother. My gf is very picky but so far Gaspari is 2 for 2 with her. She loves the Neapolitan Precision Protein and also will not use any other protein for her protein pancakes besides Myofusion Maple Bacon Pancake.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    I consistently ask my wife to try protein shakes or sometimes other supplements I think are good...usually she is not impressed and generically says she doesn't like protein powders.

    I just mixed some Precision Neapolitan in skim Fairlife and she thinks she may start having it for breakfast. That's a first...and it was not as good as in 2% even

    Nice!!!
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    I consistently ask my wife to try protein shakes or sometimes other supplements I think are good...usually she is not impressed and generically says she doesn't like protein powders.

    I just mixed some Precision Neapolitan in skim Fairlife and she thinks she may start having it for breakfast. That's a first...and it was not as good as in 2% even
    Man that is a huge compliment. PP Neapolitan is for anyone and everyone!
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    Some updates on Pro Supps "MyCookie"

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    Says expected sometime in April
    lol everyone is coming out with cookies now a days, hopefully its like their bars.

    Originally Posted by 82ndAirborne View Post
    Having tried all the DMAA pres out right now. Id say that-

    Dust Extreme and Centurian God of Rage (now known as just Rage) are the top two. They are very close, probably a wash, but id give the ever so slightest edge to Dust Extreme, but would rather give my money to Centurian than BSL. Both of these are better than SP250. My favorite is GOW Red because of my personal love for AMP-C.

    I have actually had a great result mixing a half scoop of GOW Red and God of Rage (so 1/2 AMP-C / DMAA). I know most would say Im just getting a shallow dose of both, but its actually treated me quite well.

    As I stated earlier I firmly beleive American Metabolix Warpath is the best non DMAA / AMP C pre out by far.

    I have also heard a ton of positive feedback by the half and half scoop of Dust Extreme + Dust V2, however I have yet to try that.
    Guess I'm trying God of War next then after I'm done with my Dust Extreme.

    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    I consistently ask my wife to try protein shakes or sometimes other supplements I think are good...usually she is not impressed and generically says she doesn't like protein powders.

    I just mixed some Precision Neapolitan in skim Fairlife and she thinks she may start having it for breakfast. That's a first...and it was not as good as in 2% even
    Ive said it multiple times but it seriously is the bees knees lol.
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