If you don't believe in climate change, please step into this thread and explain why.

[Yero91]

I'm really trying to keep an open mind here.

[All-Star11]

first it was global warming...
oops it's actually colder this year than last

now it's climate change...
broad way of saying things arent the same. "look at this graph I made. 10,000 years ago the average temperature was this and now its this. you wot mate??" we had brah's 10,000 years ago taking accurate temperatures?

yah ok brah...

Here. take my carbon tax. tax that by another 13% and go fix climate change. fukking Trudeau and his liberal douche army

[SoutheastBeast1]

Who cares? Climates have shifted before. It's a completely natural phenomenon that occurred long before humans came about on this planet.

Why do you doomsday climate change supporters completely ignore this fact. You really stupid enough to think WE are causing climate change?

Some of you think you're more important/influential than you are

[Benjinkan]

Who cares? Climates have shifted before. It's a completely natural phenomenon that occurred long before humans came about on this planet.

This, its a cyclical event that happens regardless of human impact... who was multiple ice ages? Should we look after the environment? Absolutely. Do have that level of impact on it? Nopes.

[ironicinori]

Climate change is happening. It's not immediately clear that humans are the cause. It's a fukkin natural cycle and has been for millions of years.


Of course, humans are causing lots of other problems, like crippling smog and polluted oceans. So I personally think whining about man made climate change takes focus away from things we can actually control.

[All-Star11]

first it was global warming...
oops it's actually colder this year than last

now it's climate change...
broad way of saying things arent the same. "look at this graph I made. 10,000 years ago the average temperature was this and now its this. you wot mate??" we had brah's 10,000 years ago taking accurate temperatures?

yah ok brah...

Here. take my carbon tax. tax that by another 13% and go fix climate change. fukking Trudeau and his liberal douche army

this guy knows what he's talking about!

[Jarlie]

first it was global warming...
oops it's actually colder this year than last

now it's climate change...
broad way of saying things arent the same. "look at this graph I made. 10,000 years ago the average temperature was this and now its this. you wot mate??" we had brah's 10,000 years ago taking accurate temperatures?

yah ok brah...

Here. take my carbon tax. tax that by another 13% and go fix climate change. fukking Trudeau and his liberal douche army

this

[phikappa]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7488056.html

[TsarChasm]

I don't think anybody denies that climate change exists like the Liberal say.

It is how it is politicized.

[neuron]

Climate changes daily. Just not anthropogenically. Its a myth propagated by the left in order to obtain more control.

[ironicinori]

first it was global warming...
oops it's actually colder this year than last

now it's climate change...
broad way of saying things arent the same. "look at this graph I made. 10,000 years ago the average temperature was this and now its this. you wot mate??" we had brah's 10,000 years ago taking accurate temperatures?

yah ok brah...

Here. take my carbon tax. tax that by another 13% and go fix climate change. fukking Trudeau and his liberal douche army

They definitely can tell what the temps were in past ages by the ice layers, chemical composition of rocks, etc.

But that makes it even more stupid to think that the 100 years of human industry is causing climate change, when the same chit was happening naturally 10,000 years ago.

[DolphLungin]

It's not that people don't think the earth's climate can change over long spans of time. We know of things such as ice ages, and the earth's natural cooling and warming cycles. The term "climate change denier" has very misleading meanings. Everyone can also agree that we would like a cleaner planet but the taxes, regulations, and economic destruction through totalitarian regulations that are being forced upon us in the name of climate change are BS.

[Forty0zFreedom]

It doesn't work that way. Burden of proof is on you.

[winjones]

This, its a cyclical event that happens regardless of human impact... who was multiple ice ages? Should we look after the environment? Absolutely. Do have that level of impact on it? Nopes.

Rapid warming due to natural causes ended around 10,000 years ago.



Specifically look at the rapid change over the past 1000 years... where else in history does this happen? Explain the breaking of this tread around the time of the Industrial Revolution?

Please find another model that refutes this or something that disproves it... you can use any part of Earth's history. I'm open to a debate.

[neuron]

Rapid warming due to natural causes ended around 10,000 years ago.



Specifically look at the rapid change over the past 1000 years... where else in history does this happen? Explain the breaking of this tread around the time of the Industrial Revolution?

Please find another model that refutes this or something that disproves it... you can use any part of Earth's history. I'm open to a debate.

That graph is bull****

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TCy_UOjEir0

[neuron]

Ive been in academia for the last ~12 years. Good luck publishing anything that goes against the leftists consensus (of any issue and iteration). Your funding will dry up and you will lose your job (it also wont be published). This is how the consensus persists. Its a ****ing echo chamber.

[nzgs]

I don't accept anthropogenic climate change, because the evidence for it is so weak, has been fiddled so extensively, and because more evidence exists that disproves the models than confirm them.

-A strong scientific theory does not need its raw data to be fiddled by NASA to fit an agenda. NASA systematically fiddled historical data to show a warming trend where there is none on the raw data. http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ievable-scale/

-A strong scientific theory makes solid predictions that are testable. Climate change scientists use computer models to predict future temperature rises, which have proven incorrect until now because they are based on incorrect mathematics that grossly exaggerate trends. This video explains the flaw in the math behind all climate change models, and there is a paper close to publication on the matter.



-A strong scientific theory does not need political activists to silence criticism and shame people into acceptance, in lieu of actual evidence.

-The best evidence, from raw satellite data not flawed models, suggests that solar activity drives changes to the climate whether it's warming or cooling. This is politically inconvenient because socialists can't tax the sun. Here are 100 published papers that come to this conclusion, and which have been ignored by the mainstream media.

http://notrickszone.com/100-papers-s....W1rVh3QY.dpbs

[Benjinkan]

Please find another model that refutes this or something that disproves it... you can use any part of Earth's history. I'm open to a debate.

Personally I would question the statistical significance of best guess 'reconstructed' temperature data that shows a difference of ~0.2°C between present and the Medieval warm period... and who is to say a cycle isn't much longer than 2000 years? I'd still say it's not anywhere near conclusive proof that the current change is due to human influence.

[drFEEL]

Even if humans are causing it, doesnt fuken matter. One thing libcucks dont realize is that the market is moving towards renewable energy like solar and wind. This will literally eliminate the greatest sources of extra co2

So its not really an issue. Go find something else to feel self righteous about

[jamesbwbevis]

I believe in it, I just dont care because the consequences won't impact me

[nzgs]

Rapid warming due to natural causes ended around 10,000 years ago.



Specifically look at the rapid change over the past 1000 years... where else in history does this happen? Explain the breaking of this tread around the time of the Industrial Revolution?

Please find another model that refutes this or something that disproves it... you can use any part of Earth's history. I'm open to a debate.

Before accepting things blindly, you should question the methodology of "reconstructed" temperature and of "temperature anomaly". This is not raw data.

[neuron]

Before accepting things blindly, you should question the methodology of "reconstructed" temperature and of "temperature anomaly". This is not raw data.

In my world, any intervention study methodology has to be officially published prior to the study being undertaken. This is to prevent moving goal posts (and post hoc manipulation) based on the data results. The climate change community has no such mechanisms. They manipulate the data ad libitum.

[jamesbwbevis]

global warming is real and we are definitely significantly contributing to it, the only people trying to deny it are those that stand to lose like oil companies.


herp derp

[Tornach]

Its a conspiracy made by a certain group of people to make us afraid. 100% srs

[KingSWRV]

If you pee in the ocean, lib scientist could say "humans are polluting the ocean"

but the question is to what degree did that bit of pee do anything?

Technically the scientific statement is true.

But they don't tell you to what meaningless degree the degrees change.

Thats how they getcha!!!

[annasmith7]

I never, EVER, believed in global warming, I always knew it was a total scam

[batspoof]

Its a conspiracy made by a certain group of people to make us afraid. 100% srs

I never, EVER, believed in global warming, I always knew it was a total scam

^These are the same types of cucks who think dinosaurs never walked the earth. Yeah science is all a conspiracy you cuck, fossils are the work of the devil you apocalyptic ****s.

[InstantLoser]

Because politicized science is almost always bull****. It isn't science that I don't believe, it's the scientists performing it.

Nobody says "Climate change doesn't exist", what people say is "The climate has always been in a state of change, and it's the height of human hubris to assume we're having any kind of effect on it."

Also, the sale of carbon credits comes to mind.

[batspoof]

Because politicized science is almost always bull****. It isn't science that I don't believe, it's the scientists performing it.

Nobody says "Climate change doesn't exist", what people say is "The climate has always been in a state of change, and it's the height of human hubris to assume we're having any kind of effect on it."

Also, the sale of carbon credits comes to mind.

Name you listen to me, you colossal waste of oxygen. Do you think these are the same type of beta cucks who promulgate false rape statistics like "1 in 4 women on college campuses have been raped"? YEAH, TO OBTAIN MORE FUNDING FROM THE GOVERNMENT FOR THEIR AGENDA. JUST LIKE CLIMATE CHANGE SCIENTISTS. You should name your penor "colossus, destroyer of dreams and souls".

[BrocepCurls]

Why must political Conservatism and scientific ignorance go hand-in-hand, almost always?

Whether you lean right or left politically should not be an indicator of how little science you are able to comprehend. Why is this trend so prevalent in our society then?