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    Arrow BOOST FREE TEST LEVELS with ZINC CITRATE



    Free Testosterone = Naturally produced without artificial aid

    Zinc has been shown to increase free test levels

    How much zinc is needed? As little as 30 mg's a day. When will you notice an increase? Within 30 to 45 days

    Why Zinc Citrate? This form appears to have the highest absorption rate


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    Copper and Selenium are both recommended whenever zinc is taken.
    1 milligram of copper for every 10 mg's of zinc and 50 to 200 micrograms of selenium.
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    Has anyone tried OptiZinc?
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    Given BPI's affinity for amino acid bonding I'm surprised you wouldn't promote zinc glycinate as opposed to citrate.
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    This is well known. If you're deficient in zinc it will impact your hormones. Supplements can fix this.

    You don't need to supplement copper or selenium to improve bioavailability. If you're deficient, the biological response is rapidly increased with supplementation.
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Has anyone tried OptiZinc?
    Yes was using it by Jarrow, about 20 years ago. It was sold with copper I believe. Used to come in a blue bottle by them, now it's brown.

    And no, it will not increase free test or test for that matter unless deficient, though deficiency is more prevalent than once thought. One could say the same thing for being on low calories, or fat and then increasing them to baseline levels needed and then stating they will increase test.

    the real question has always been, can something increase test without a prior deficiency.
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    Originally Posted by OT2000 View Post
    This is well known. If you're deficient in zinc it will impact your hormones. Supplements can fix this.

    You don't need to supplement copper or selenium to improve bioavailability. If you're deficient, the biological response is rapidly increased with supplementation.
    Taking large quantities of zinc (50 mg/day or more) over a period of weeks can interfere with copper bioavailability. High intake of zinc induces the intestinal synthesis of a copper-binding protein called metallothionein. Metallothionein traps copper within intestinal cells and prevents its systemic absorption.


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    Originally Posted by Athletic Edge View Post
    Yes was using it by Jarrow, about 20 years ago. It was sold with copper I believe. Used to come in a blue bottle by them, now it's brown.

    And no, it will not increase free test or test for that matter unless deficient, though deficiency is more prevalent than once thought. One could say the same thing for being on low calories, or fat and then increasing them to baseline levels needed and then stating they will increase test.

    the real question has always been, can something increase test without a prior deficiency.
    Some studies have shown zinc to increase free test levels over time without deficiency.

    I found this interesting

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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Taking large quantities of zinc (50 mg/day or more) over a period of weeks can interfere with copper bioavailability. High intake of zinc induces the intestinal synthesis of a copper-binding protein called metallothionein. Metallothionein traps copper within intestinal cells and prevents its systemic absorption.
    No one needs to take 50mg of elemental zinc a day. And if theyre taking 50mg of Zinc Citrate, you are talking maybe 17mg of elemental which is more than an sufficient amount. And it's not high enough to impact copper bioavailability.
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    Originally Posted by OT2000 View Post
    No one needs to take 50mg of elemental zinc a day. And if theyre taking 50mg of Zinc Citrate, you are talking maybe 17mg of elemental which is more than an sufficient amount. And it's not high enough to impact copper bioavailability.
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    Why not Zinc Picolinate....? Or Zinc Orate..? Or any forms that are superior to Citrate?
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    Why not Zinc Picolinate....? Or Zinc Orate..? Or any forms that are superior to Citrate?
    Because the studies that OP cited in the first post didn't use zinc citrate and he doesn't believe in studies.
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    Because the studies that OP cited in the first post didn't use zinc citrate and he doesn't believe in studies.
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Nope
    It's zinc monomethionine aspartate. It covers a zinc deficiency which is required for any response. What's the difference?
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    Originally Posted by OT2000 View Post
    It's zinc monomethionine aspartate. It covers a zinc deficiency which is required for any response. What's the difference?
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    Do you even lift?
    Do you even click the first link on google searches and skim it for 10 seconds?
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    Do you even click the first link on google searches and skim it for 10 seconds?
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    Do you even click the first link on google searches and skim it for 10 seconds?
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    Stop using all my cliches
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    It's zinc monomethionine aspartate. It covers a zinc deficiency which is required for any response. What's the difference?
    That was a joke
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    All of you guys are getting a t-shirt, OT included

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    Interesting but I'm not sold.
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