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    Originally Posted by gymhbu View Post
    this is interesting. Are you not a fan of traditional squats?
    Did them all throughout highschool and early college. Ended up having two hip surgeries to repair torn labrums and repair impingment. My surgeon is the team Doc for the Dallas Cowboys and Stars and said back squatting with my bone structure wasn't the best option. He said deadlifts were fine and so were front squats. I've found front squats feel much better overall on my 6 ft 7 frame.

    Front squats take care of my quads. Deadlifts take care of my glutes/hams.
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    Day 1: squats, bench
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    full body 3-4 times a week:

    back squats (high intensity, low volume)
    deficit RDL (low intensity, high volume)
    overhead press
    weighted pull ups
    off
    snatch grip deadlift (moderate intensity)
    back pause squats (moderate intensity, high volume)
    incline db press
    db rows
    off
    conventional deadlift (high intensity)
    front squat (low, high volume)
    pull ups
    push press
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    3 days wk alternate upper lower. Im gonna experiment with adding in an extra arm day using BFR training.
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    Day 1 : incline bench + squat + at least 1 triceps exercise + optional curl variation
    Day 2 : shrugs + minimum of 2 pulling exercises + minimum of 2 rowing exercises + at least 1 curl variation + optional triceps exercise
    Day 3 : flat bench + squat + 1 triceps exercise + reverse flys on pecdeck + cable pull aparts (low to high)
    Day 4 : minimum of 2 pulling exercises + minimum of 2 rowing exercises + at least 1 curl variation + optional triceps exercise
    Day 5 : close grip bench + squat + at least 1 triceps exercise + optional curl variation
    Day 6 : shrugs + OPH + shoulder lateral machine + reverse flys on pecdeck + cable pull aparts (low to high)
    Day 7 : video games

    Most sets are ramping set ending in 1 heavy working set but taking 4 to 6 sets getting there. Shrugs are 3 heavy sets and squat is 3X5 3 days a week.

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    curl variations can be : CC drop set, cable preacher curls, reverse curls or rope hammers
    triceps variations can be : double/single rope/bar/handle cable press down, V grip overhead cable extension, dumbbell skull crushers or machine unilateral hammer press downs

    Also ever day is back day so on non-back days I still hit either 1 pulling movement or 1 rowing movement

    Herniated disk so no DL for now. I restarted them last fall and my back went out so for now at least they are a no go.

    BTW, if you have never tried cable pull aparts with a "starting low to ending high" movement you should give them a go. I only recently added them and the burn in both my side and rear delts is pretty amazing. Great finisher to walk out of the gym in maximum pump mode.
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    Originally Posted by neverquit2012 View Post
    Did them all throughout highschool and early college. Ended up having two hip surgeries to repair torn labrums and repair impingment. My surgeon is the team Doc for the Dallas Cowboys and Stars and said back squatting with my bone structure wasn't the best option. He said deadlifts were fine and so were front squats. I've found front squats feel much better overall on my 6 ft 7 frame.

    Front squats take care of my quads. Deadlifts take care of my glutes/hams.
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    Originally Posted by rwd84 View Post
    full body 3-4 times a week:

    back squats (high intensity, low volume)
    deficit RDL (low intensity, high volume)
    overhead press
    weighted pull ups
    off
    snatch grip deadlift (moderate intensity)
    back pause squats (moderate intensity, high volume)
    incline db press
    db rows
    off
    conventional deadlift (high intensity)
    front squat (low, high volume)
    pull ups
    push press
    off
    off
    cardio and core work on off days.
    Hmm. I've never really done full body.
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    Push (Mid Chest Emphasis)
    Legs
    Pull (Deadlift Emphasis)
    Rest / Cardio
    Push (Upper Chest Emphasis
    Legs
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    Rotate 5x5 for Bench Press, Deadlift, and Squat every week. Abs at the end of either Leg / Pull day 2x a week dependent on where my 5x5 falls.
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    Push
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    It's been studied that for nattys the first 3 sets contribute the most to growth, and each set after becomes less important as growth has already been triggered and you can't "trigger it more". For non nattys everything goes out the window, especially considering you grow faster on gear NOT WORKING OUT vs a natty with a full routine and the same diet. Easy mode, don't trust their advice.

    So if you're natty on a 5 day split you are recovering in about 2-3 days and then wasting the next 4 waiting to hit that muscle again. Poverty. You could grow twice as fast PPL x2 if volume stays at about 4 sets.



    Mean hypertrophy effect size for single vs. multiple sets per exercise. Data are presented as means 6 SE. *Significant difference from 1 set per exercise (p <0.05).

    There was no significant difference between 2-3 sets per exercise and 4-6 sets per exercise (difference = 0.10 +/- 0.10; CI: -0.09, 0.30; p = 0.29).
    There was a tendency for increasing ESs for an increasing number of sets (0.24 for 1 set, 0.34 for 2-3 sets, and 0.44 for 4-6 sets). Sensitivity analysis revealed no highly influential studies that affected the magnitude of the observed differences, but one study did slightly influence the level of significance and CI width. No evidence of publication bias was observed. In conclusion, multiple sets are associated with 40% greater hypertrophy-related ESs than 1 set, in both trained and untrained subjects.
    http://www.begin2dig.com/2010/04/hyp...day-1-and.html
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    Originally Posted by PotatoLane View Post
    Push
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    Legs
    Push
    Pull
    Legs
    Off

    It's been studied that for nattys the first 3 sets contribute the most to growth, and each set after becomes less important as growth has already been triggered and you can't "trigger it more". For non nattys everything goes out the window, especially considering you grow faster on gear NOT WORKING OUT vs a natty with a full routine and the same diet. Easy mode, don't trust their advice.

    So if you're natty on a 5 day split you are recovering in about 2-3 days and then wasting the next 4 waiting to hit that muscle again. Poverty. You could grow twice as fast PPL x2 if volume stays at about 4 sets.





    http://www.begin2dig.com/2010/04/hyp...day-1-and.html
    This is why I gravitate toward upper/lower splits.
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    Originally Posted by PotatoLane View Post
    Push
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    Legs
    Push
    Pull
    Legs
    Off

    It's been studied that for nattys the first 3 sets contribute the most to growth, and each set after becomes less important as growth has already been triggered and you can't "trigger it more". For non nattys everything goes out the window, especially considering you grow faster on gear NOT WORKING OUT vs a natty with a full routine and the same diet. Easy mode, don't trust their advice.

    So if you're natty on a 5 day split you are recovering in about 2-3 days and then wasting the next 4 waiting to hit that muscle again. Poverty. You could grow twice as fast PPL x2 if volume stays at about 4 sets.





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    Everyone is different. Science points to full body 3x a week as the best for strength gains. Yet most of the strongest people don't do that.

    There are basic principles to follow.

    1. Volume
    2. Frequency
    3. Intensity

    Then there is the individuals MRV. Pretty much what they can handle for the respective body part without over-training.

    The rest boils down to what works for them. Someone could walk up to me and tell me that 3x a week is the best split for the best results, and I wouldn't do it. I have tried it. Doesn't work for me that well. 6 days a week and 4 days a week are the two splits I have used that I had made major gains on. Both are completely different.

    Science just gives you insight into something. It isn't set in stone. You shouldn't change something just because 1 or a couple studies point towards something. Do what works for you, what you like to do, and then you will be fine.

    Science would say that the way Jesse Norris trains and the way Pete Rubish trains is not ideal. Yet the two are some of the strongest on the planet. AND they both train COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from one another. Pete is training twice a week right now. Jesse trains 6 times a week. **** science
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    Originally Posted by allianc3 View Post
    7x a week

    Chest
    Back
    Shoulders
    Arms
    Legs
    Chest
    Back
    Shoulders
    Arms
    Legs
    Chest
    Back
    Shoulders
    Arms
    Legs

    Repeat until you go on vacation or get sick
    Basically this. Except I go in 2-3 a week for two-a-days and lift high rep/intensity the same muscle group I did earlier that day.
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    Originally Posted by DeadlyStriker View Post
    Everyone is different. Science points to full body 3x a week as the best for strength gains. Yet most of the strongest people don't do that.

    There are basic principles to follow.

    1. Volume
    2. Frequency
    3. Intensity

    Then there is the individuals MRV. Pretty much what they can handle for the respective body part without over-training.

    The rest boils down to what works for them. Someone could walk up to me and tell me that 3x a week is the best split for the best results, and I wouldn't do it. I have tried it. Doesn't work for me that well. 6 days a week and 4 days a week are the two splits I have used that I had made major gains on. Both are completely different.

    Science just gives you insight into something. It isn't set in stone. You shouldn't change something just because 1 or a couple studies point towards something. Do what works for you, what you like to do, and then you will be fine.

    Science would say that the way Jesse Norris trains and the way Pete Rubish trains is not ideal. Yet the two are some of the strongest on the planet. AND they both train COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from one another. Pete is training twice a week right now. Jesse trains 6 times a week. **** science
    Things change a lot when substances are introduced. Growth and recovery times are completely different. Your physiology pretty much changes. You are right to say that studies on natural subjects with normal hormone levels can sometimes be ignored, especially when you are not a natural subject with normal hormone levels.
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    Originally Posted by PotatoLane View Post
    Things change a lot when substances are introduced. Growth and recovery times are completely different. Your physiology pretty much changes. You are right to say that studies on natural subjects with normal hormone levels can sometimes be ignored, especially when you are not a natural subject with normal hormone levels.
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    Arms (tris mostly but secondly bis) overpower the rest of my body whereas my legs could use some concentration hence my routine is

    Legs
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    Back/bis
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    Originally Posted by ATT82121 View Post
    Arms (tris mostly but secondly bis) overpower the rest of my body whereas my legs could use some concentration hence my routine is

    Legs
    Shoulders/abs/neck
    Back/bis
    Chest/forearm/tris
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    Why not do legs 1st and 3rd or 4th instead of doing them two sessions in a row?
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