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    How many Os will phil win

    Ok he himself says he wants to take ten.Who says yay or nay

    I reckon he can do it.
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    Ok he himself says he wants to take ten.Who says yay or nay

    I reckon he can do it.
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    I was just talking to a buddy about this the other day. I feel this is a good time for Phil to create a legacy. I dont see anyone coming up that can take him down. Remember, the judges want someone better than the current champ to overtake him. If a competitor is equal, they will give it to the current. Again, no one is up and coming that will overpower the Gift for a few years. I see him with at least 8; barring no injuries (I hope I didn't just jinx him...)
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    He will win 10.

    Do you guys realise Phil Heath is a more dominant Mr Olympia than Ronnie Coleman? (Note for the slow: this is different to saying Phil is a better bodybuilder or that he'd beat Ronnie in a contest).

    Across eight Mr Olympia wins, Ronnie lost 26 points to Jay, Levrone, and Flex (and Gustavo too, if you count the challenge round.). He only has four straight-1 victories to his name: 2004, 2003, 2000, and 1999.

    Across five Mr Olympia wins, Phil has lost ONE POINT, to Dexter Jackson in 2015. And he has five straight-1 victories.

    I'm not a Phil ballwasher. I honestly think he sucks as a person and that Kai should have won in 2012 and 2014. And to be fair to Ronnie, in the past there were more rounds (so more opportunities to lose points). But it's no exaggeration to say that Phil is more dominant in his era than Ronnie was in his.
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    Originally Posted by BartPimpson View Post
    He will win 10.

    Do you guys realise Phil Heath is a more dominant Mr Olympia than Ronnie Coleman? (Note for the slow: this is different to saying Phil is a better bodybuilder or that he'd beat Ronnie in a contest).

    Across eight Mr Olympia wins, Ronnie lost 26 points to Jay, Levrone, and Flex (and Gustavo too, if you count the challenge round.). He only has four straight-1 victories to his name: 2004, 2003, 2000, and 1999.

    Across five Mr Olympia wins, Phil has lost ONE POINT, to Dexter Jackson in 2015. And he has five straight-1 victories.

    I'm not a Phil ballwasher. I honestly think he sucks as a person and that Kai should have won in 2012 and 2014. And to be fair to Ronnie, in the past there were more rounds (so more opportunities to lose points). But it's no exaggeration to say that Phil is more dominant in his era than Ronnie was in his.
    There is one MAJOR assumption with your analysis. That assumption is that the Olympia is and has been correctly judged. It is clear the show has not been judged well or correctly for years. Heath 2014 should have been out of the top 6 and could easily have placed out of the top 10 that year. Heath has been beaten in every pose every year by other athletes. This was not the case in Ronnies era.

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    I think he'll get 8 for sure.

    I don't know if even the corrupt IFBB could keep everyone quiet if he has an off year again and these up and comers continue at the pace they are.
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    Originally Posted by BartPimpson View Post
    He will win 10.

    Do you guys realise Phil Heath is a more dominant Mr Olympia than Ronnie Coleman? (Note for the slow: this is different to saying Phil is a better bodybuilder or that he'd beat Ronnie in a contest).

    Across eight Mr Olympia wins, Ronnie lost 26 points to Jay, Levrone, and Flex (and Gustavo too, if you count the challenge round.). He only has four straight-1 victories to his name: 2004, 2003, 2000, and 1999.

    Across five Mr Olympia wins, Phil has lost ONE POINT, to Dexter Jackson in 2015. And he has five straight-1 victories.

    I'm not a Phil ballwasher. I honestly think he sucks as a person and that Kai should have won in 2012 and 2014. And to be fair to Ronnie, in the past there were more rounds (so more opportunities to lose points). But it's no exaggeration to say that Phil is more dominant in his era than Ronnie was in his.
    That's what I've been saying for years, and people on this forum laugh at me. ON THE SCORECARDS, Phix is far and away the most dominant bodybuilder in the history of the sport. Meaning, he's beaten his competition more convincingly than any other bodybuilder, including Ronnie. Phix is the Floyd Mayweather of bodybuilding. He doesn't lose.
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    Having him tied with dorian is already shameful, it would be terrible if he gets to the arnold level.
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    Originally Posted by StelioK View Post
    Having him tied with dorian is already shameful, it would be terrible if he gets to the arnold level.
    And no one has ever got 9 Sandows. I always thought it was cool that Ronnie tied Haneys record. I grew up in that Ronnie Mass Monster era.
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    Originally Posted by batspoof View Post
    That's what I've been saying for years, and people on this forum laugh at me. ON THE SCORECARDS, Phix is far and away the most dominant bodybuilder in the history of the sport. Meaning, he's beaten his competition more convincingly than any other bodybuilder, including Ronnie. Phix is the Floyd Mayweather of bodybuilding. He doesn't lose.
    You have been here for 1.5 years according to your profile.

    No one is denying Phil deserved most of his wins. He still loses on certain aspects of judging more so than Ronnie did during his reign.
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    Originally Posted by BartPimpson View Post
    He will win 10.

    Do you guys realise Phil Heath is a more dominant Mr Olympia than Ronnie Coleman? (Note for the slow: this is different to saying Phil is a better bodybuilder or that he'd beat Ronnie in a contest).

    Across eight Mr Olympia wins, Ronnie lost 26 points to Jay, Levrone, and Flex (and Gustavo too, if you count the challenge round.). He only has four straight-1 victories to his name: 2004, 2003, 2000, and 1999.

    Across five Mr Olympia wins, Phil has lost ONE POINT, to Dexter Jackson in 2015. And he has five straight-1 victories.

    I'm not a Phil ballwasher. I honestly think he sucks as a person and that Kai should have won in 2012 and 2014. And to be fair to Ronnie, in the past there were more rounds (so more opportunities to lose points). But it's no exaggeration to say that Phil is more dominant in his era than Ronnie was in his.
    THIS, if the judging keeps the same Critera, assuming Heath at the end of his career can still match his 2014 performance where he was around 80% then I do not see why he can not get 16 wins.
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    Originally Posted by Gorky88 View Post
    You have been here for 1.5 years according to your profile.

    No one is denying Phil deserved most of his wins. He still loses on certain aspects of judging more so than Ronnie did during his reign.
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    Ain't losing anytime soon. I'll put it this way, Ramy could come in 60lbs heavier at negative body fat levels but Phil will still win because...he's got a more "3D" lower back.
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    Non of the top guys are improving outside of Ramy, and it will be a little while before he ever catches him.... I could see 1 or 2 more before Ramy and the rest of the new guys really make a big push to beat Phil. This is assuming Kai doesn't compete again and brings a package to beat him before that.
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    There was an interview he did last year after the Olympia saying he's got 6 more shows left. My guess is he meant five more Olympias and one arnold classic to top it off.
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    There was an interview he did last year after the Olympia saying he's got 6 more shows left. My guess is he meant five more Olympias and one arnold classic to top it off.
    Damn. Won't even let Kai have the scraps.
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    I think Batspoof is Stercs. I always wondered where Stercs went he gave me lots of reps and was a great poster.
    what happened to him/tsiparlaneaht. what happened to groggery? they were good guys. ttimmerman and wala don't post no more either.
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    Originally Posted by ROMMYromboid View Post
    I think Batspoof is Stercs. I always wondered where Stercs went he gave me lots of reps and was a great poster.
    I know Stercs, that is not Stercs.
    Grainy hardcore religious slabs of thick dense muscle. So grainy that it hurts your eyes
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    Originally Posted by batspoof View Post
    That's what I've been saying for years, and people on this forum laugh at me. ON THE SCORECARDS, Phix is far and away the most dominant bodybuilder in the history of the sport. Meaning, he's beaten his competition more convincingly than any other bodybuilder, including Ronnie. Phix is the Floyd Mayweather of bodybuilding. He doesn't lose.
    lol "phil is the mayweather of bodybuilding" so who's ronnie coleman? charlie zelenoff?




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    Phil's "dominance" is a byproduct of how judging and scoring works now. He may have the best overall package but he loses poses to people, its just not the same person for every pose. He gets pushed and even edged out in most poses. A dominate champ would not be edged out in the way he is.

    With that said, overall, no one really is close right now, but I wouldn't call him the most dominate Mr. O ever.
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    I thought Phil would never get to raise his other hand when counting Olympia wins, I am satisfied that he got to tie Dorian yates record, and perhaps I will cede Heath another sandow.. but please no, no , no , no god no do not let Heath tie Ronnie's record. Ronnie was on another level than Heath ever will be, it is unfathomable IMO that this can happen, judging by the meteoric rise some bodybuilders have shown, I do doubt Heaths ability to hold off the challengers for 2 more years.
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    Originally Posted by Big Slim DaDDy View Post
    He may pull a Dexter Jackson and keep on going and going and going and going and going and going and going. He may attain a number that will literally, not figuratively bring tears to his naysayers eyes.


    Imagine grown men crying at their keyboards as Bob Chiceridillo once again truimphantly proclaims "Phil, The Gift, Heath!!!"

    Feels good mane

    My guess is he gets 10 easy, and then tops it off with a few Arnolds.

    I just can't see anyone beating him

    1. He has no muscle weakness, super dense and filled out

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    no, no , no , no god no do not let Heath tie Ronnie's record. Ronnie was on another level than Heath ever will be
    You could say the same about Lee Haney. Bottom line, not all Mr Olympia contests are equal, and Ronnie had a more difficult set of bodybuilders to contend with (plus he was overall less consistent than Phil - let's be honest here guys.)

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    I really can't help but cringe when I read posts from Phil Heath fanboys. Even Kai Greene's most ardent fans have nothing on them.
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