Meat-eaters...

[naich]

Everyone ITT needs to take a fuking science course you inbred hillbillies. How can you not understand the direct correlation between mass producing meat and the hundreds of environmental effects it has? We can save the world by not eating cows, thats a fact.

[HomerJThompson]

each to their own bro.

my girlfriend is vegetarian and her food is always delicious, I eat meat 3-4 times a day and we respect each others opinions.

Well to be honest if she is a vegetarian because of her beliefs in animal rights she should be with a vegeterian / vegan. The other way sounds hypocraciy to me.

I am not a vegan or vegeterian.

[zenzibar]

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I eat meat but this is such a dumb argument.

We're not bears. We're humans. We have the capacity and the intellect to treat animals and eachother with kindness and respect.

Well, you can't have it both ways.

In order for us to mass-produce the amount of meat we do, so it's available to a larger audience, ethics have to take a backseat.

Or we could put ethics first, charge more $$$ for meat, less people can afford it, humans are the ones to suffer.

Also makes me laugh how when anyone mentions animal cruelty it's essentially just any animal with fur. Kill an insect/bird and nobody gives a fcuk.

[PaddleBunt]

Everyone ITT needs to take a fuking science course you inbred hillbillies. How can you not understand the direct correlation between mass producing meat and the hundreds of environmental effects it has? We can save the world by not eating cows, thats a fact.

Where do you think the space to grow the crops to feed 7 billion people on a vegan diet is going to come from exactly? Say goodbye to your precious environment

[RushEm]

Everyone ITT needs to take a fuking science course you inbred hillbillies. How can you not understand the direct correlation between mass producing meat and the hundreds of environmental effects it has? We can save the world by not eating cows, thats a fact.

"Any posts made by me are purely fictional in nature and by no means is anything I say to be taken seriously. Any and all pictures I post are pictures widley available on the internet and any discussions I am involved in are purely hypothetical or are commentary in nature and should not constitute advice or be considered advice to assist in activities that are deemed illegal."

[PeteJonesHTX]

Brah have you seen footage of animals being ripped apart by predators? Nature is cruel.

[SwimToTheMoon]

I've been convinced for like a year that vegans are right, those cowspiracy infographics are scary as fuk and the only reason to eat meat is pleasure, basically there is no argument against veganism.. Maybe I'm an ******* though cause I can't stop eating meat and I feel bad that I don't feel bad while I do it if that makes sense.. Hopefully they make lab meat that tastes legit soon fuuuk

[tfwnogfsrs]

Explain how the rearing and slaughtering of animals, which all scientific research thus far indicates are highly capable of experiencing suffering both in a physical and emotional capacity, can be considered ethically justifiable, given that there is no evidence to suggest meat-eating is necessary for human wellbeing, with some research indicating it may even be detrimental.

Back up your opinion with some arguments.

Never did I ever state that slaughtering animals making them suffer both physically and mentally is considered ethically justifiable, therefore I don't have to explain anything to you. Everyone knows that the animals go through a lot during the process, and that is indeed an undeniable fact. In fact, if you scroll up, you'll see that I quoted another poster saying I agree with his views regarding how the animals are being treated. Do you even read the posts in the thread?

Furthermore, you have to realize that not everyone cares about the well-being of the animals the same way as you do. There are a lot of people that simply do not care at all. Subliminally, each and every one of us know how terrible it is, and that is not debatable. However, since it doesn't affect us on a daily basis we choose to ignore it. We choose to ignore it because of selfishness, laziness or whatever the reason may be. At the end of the day, it is because change is one of the most difficult things that we face. People don't want to change, we get comfortable where we are because it's familiar; even if it's not perfect.

In addition to that, I still believe that judging people and calling them <insert random insult> because they choose to eat meat is the act of a narrow-minded imbecile.

[Torcida1911]

Does the trenbolone you inject directly into your angus count as a vegan product OP?

[Arkileon]

My man, I felt the same way for years. I was sure I would be saying goodbye to the past aesthetic life when I made the decision to cut out animal products. And I've not noticed a bit of difference in gains. srs. If anything, my energy is higher than before. Lifts going up as normal.

post an updated pic of ur physique or i call BS placebo

[woody19]

But who was circle if life, do you even lion king?

We are at the top of the food chain

[CumToSenses]

Meat releases more dopamine in my brain -> Humans are innately controlled by what gives them dopamine

Edit- even if your just looking at at it without the fukked slaughter houses part, it gives you cancer, hurts your heart and destroys the environment (red meat)

It doesn't fit a logical cost/benefit equation, but dopamine is a helluva drug

[Torcida1911]

post an updated pic of ur physique or i call BS placebo

Placebo in what?

If he is eating 200 grams of protein from soy or plants, how is it any different from 200 grams of meat protein?
There is absolutely zero difference.
And the fact hes obviously on gear would make it impossible for him be catabolic anyways.

[Arkileon]

Placebo in what?

If he is eating 200 grams of protein from soy or plants, how is it any different from 200 grams of meat protein?
There is absolutely zero difference.
And the fact hes obviously on gear would make it impossible for him be catabolic anyways.

dude i want to see how thick.solid.tight he's gotten. quit pic blocking

[Rambo66]

Where do you think the space to grow the crops to feed 7 billion people on a vegan diet is going to come from exactly? Say goodbye to your precious environment

I take it you haven't done research on that because it is a well known fact it takes a lot less space to grow the food for a plant based diet than it does for meat.

true veganism just seems to be some elitist cult. factory farming is f'uked and i think most people faced w/ the reality of it would agree but vegans get so nutty w/ their lack of critical thinking in other areas and pushing how much better they are than you that it just turns a lot of people off all together.

People might agree with it but nobody does anything to change it except rip on people that are trying to make a difference.

[Torcida1911]

dude i want to see how thick.solid.tight he's gotten. quit pic blocking

Fair enough haha

Yeah the dudes got one of the best physiques on this forum for sure.

[PaddleBunt]

I take it you haven't done research on that because it is a well known fact it takes a lot less space to grow the food for a plant based diet than it does for meat.

I'll wait patiently for you to link said 'research' that demonstrates this.


Inb4 'lol look it up yourself bro, it's all out there'.

And just to save time, an infographic isn't research boyo

[40ozDrank]

When vegans can't convert enough people, is it plausible they will turn to terrorism?

Apparently we are all mass murders anyway

[Achilles87]

I simply don't care enough.

I don't need to eat meat. But I also don't need to drive a car, live in a house, or consume the earths resources on posting memes on the internet. All things that are harming the planet. But where do we draw the line

[naich]

Where do you think the space to grow the crops to feed 7 billion people on a vegan diet is going to come from exactly? Say goodbye to your precious environment

You have absolutely zero concept of land management and the space required to raise one cow compared to the land crops use.

[naich]

I'll wait patiently for you to link said 'research' that demonstrates this.


Inb4 'lol look it up yourself bro, it's all out there'.

And just to save time, an infographic isn't research boyo

You must be an actual retard. Just think for one second. To have a cow eat its whole life it needs copious amounts of feed/water. Eliminate the cow and that food/water can be given to humans without using any new land. Have you ever even seen a lush garden??? Srs, you can feed yourself all year with a well managed 10x10 plot of land filled with plants. You must not realize that for every cow there are acres of land needed to raise it.

[Papweboy007]

Don't worry op, I will try to eat those extra 200 animals per year so they don't go to waste . Since meat factory's don't account for 1 guy going vegan , the animals are obviously still slaughtered bulk style .

[djfuzzy]

I feel people should be able to treat women and blacks however they want and other people can quit bitching about the rapes and slavery of others. Oh wait - this is human people, so that's different... right?

Lmao, dude I was trying to be civil and logical about this and you went full blown bleeding heart ******* on all of us. My fuking god dude. Not only did you go retarded, you also attempted to make a parallel to black people and women from animals that humans consume regularly.

I understand the emotional appeal to veganism, because animals do indeed have feelings, but god damn. Evolution taught us all that if you don't want to get eaten, you have to evolve. Farm animals got the short end of the stick when humans figured that chit out first.

Good luck with your bovine diet.

[StaneTMI]

4:45 onwards: Fuking rekt. Lol'd hard at the unprepared tryhard "journalist", public humiliation at its finest.

He went full retard with his meat eaters prisoners vs vegan prisoners tho ...
That's most likely because people who take actions causing them to end up in prison don't give 2 ****s about anything, especially eating habits.

Fully agree with everything else tho.


@ OP:
Why do you even go on the interwebz to argue with random strangers?
People won't change for **** if they don't have an intrinsic motivation. Your best bet is to influence your near environment and close ones, since they will most benefit from going vegan (health wise). So stop wasting your time arguing with people who entered this thread with their already fixed impression that you're a "beta pussy".

Also I'm still waiting for the vegan transformation pics nohomo

[PaddleBunt]

You must be an actual retard. Just think for one second. To have a cow eat its whole life it needs copious amounts of feed/water. Eliminate the cow and that food/water can be given to humans without using any new land. Have you ever even seen a lush garden??? Srs, you can feed yourself all year with a well managed 10x10 plot of land filled with plants. You must not realize that for every cow there are acres of land needed to raise it.

Still waiting for one of you vegan posers to post a single piece of research that substantiates this claim


Unless of course, by 'research', you people actually mean 'stuff I saw on the internet and am parroting without any justificiation under the guise of being educated on the subject'

[wincel]

Basically meat eaters are superior to vegans in every way. Enjoy your less than optimal nutrition *******. I like protein, and I am willing to kill a cow or chicken and feast on its corpse. I want to taste its blood, and take its nutrients for myself. While you munch away on ripened ovaries of plant life, I savor the flavor of bloody muscle and fat. It's delicious...that succulent taste of extinguished animal life. I prefer grass fed beef. The fat just tastes better. Speaking of which, I bet vegans taste pretty good too.

Trolling aside: eat whatever you want. It is probably not the most moral thing to eat meat, but whatever. Meat is pretty good for you in general.

[bigmane123]

this thread is too beta

[wasp9166]

Does the trenbolone you inject directly into your angus count as a vegan product OP?

lol

[PathToSage]

only reason for me to stop eating meat is the effects it has on the environment. but i like chicken too much

[Rambo66]

I'll wait patiently for you to link said 'research' that demonstrates this.


Inb4 'lol look it up yourself bro, it's all out there'.

And just to save time, an infographic isn't research boyo

https://www.vegsoc.org/saveland


http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/environment.html

http://shrinkthatfootprint.com/food-...footprint-diet

Is that enough?