Spring Cutters Crew Vol 36: Beer Guts to Beer Cuts

[mh22]

when's the last time you took super cleanse

lels, those were the days hhehhe dont need it anymore. think u only need chit like that is when youre lean af and havent chat for a week straight, happened to me b4 so thats y i took it. had the whole SCC on dat dere super cleanse back then

[fbreaker]

lels, those were the days hhehhe dont need it anymore. think u only need chit like that is when youre lean af and havent chat for a week straight, happened to me b4 so thats y i took it. had the whole SCC on dat dere super cleanse back then

haha i remember. had the most glorious, black as hell chit that day

[midcoastking33]

pound 2 down. das it mane can i survive the weekend

[Broksi96]

Hey all, long time SCC lurker.... What lifting routine do yall find most effective/appropriate while cutting? Curious

[Gibb1991]

Hey all, long time SCC lurker.... What lifting routine do yall find most effective/appropriate while cutting? Curious

Whatever you were doing routine wise while bulking, just with lower calories.

Although I've had several friends of mine get online coaching good choices like 3dmj or JOH before he disappeared, they all either put there clients on a PHAT variation, or a full body variation (3dmj put my friend on 4 days a week full body with 1 day of accessory work for his whole contest prep)

[AppleCat]

u only need chit like that is when youre lean af



happened to me b4

[Gibb1991]

You sexy boy welcome back

[deltpecx]

lels, those were the days hhehhe dont need it anymore. think u only need chit like that is when youre lean af and havent chat for a week straight, happened to me b4 so thats y i took it. had the whole SCC on dat dere super cleanse back then

..and talking $hits too...

[HockeyBacon18]

Hey all, long time SCC lurker.... What lifting routine do yall find most effective/appropriate while cutting? Curious

im an amateur and many posters here definitely know better than me, but depending on your current workout scheme, id likely switch to a more strength oriented program that reduces "accessory" work in order to maximize strength retention while minimizing muscle catibolism and subsequent loss.

[Jherewhoisdere]

im an amateur and many posters here definitely know better than me, but depending on your current workout scheme, id likely switch to a more strength oriented program that reduces "accessory" work in order to maximize strength retention while minimizing muscle catibolism and subsequent loss.

Stupid AF unless you are a powerlifter that is trying to make weight.

Whatever you were doing routine wise while bulking, just with lower calories.

^

[HockeyBacon18]

Stupid AF unless you are a powerlifter that is trying to make weight.^

do only power lifters want to maintain their strength? If your benching 315 do you think your going to build more muscle post cut if you lose strength and only bench 275 or if you lose minimal strength and bench 305?

[Jherewhoisdere]

do only power lifters want to maintain their strength? If your benching 315 do you think your going to build more muscle post cut if you lose strength and only bench 275 or if you lose minimal strength and bench 305?

So you are saying that a bodybuilder should reduce volume on key body parts (see: lateral/posterior deltoids, arms, hamstrings..) straight away when going on a deficit and focus on strength oriented training instead? That is pure nonsense.

You should always train in a manner that maximizes hypertrophy. Depending on your starting point, you can still improve during the early phases of the deficit. As time goes on, your overall training volume will more or less autoregulate itself. It would be detrimental just to cut down your training volume straight away.

[mccoy19]

So you are saying that a bodybuilder should reduce volume on key body parts (see: lateral/posterior deltoids, arms, hamstrings..) straight away when going on a deficit and focus on strength oriented training instead? That is pure nonsense.

You should always train in a manner that maximizes hypertrophy. Depending on your starting point, you can still improve during the early phases of the deficit. As time goes on, your overall training volume will more or less autoregulate itself. It would be detrimental just to cut down your training volume straight away.

Got to agree here ... as you get lower in cals and carbs (especially if prepping) you really won't be able to go past a certain point at the gym ... and you'll know that point alright. When dieting i prefer pump workouts. 1 body part per day - maybe two. Tons of reps, tons of sets, and entirely focusing on the pump/squeeze. That's me personally, though.

[HockeyBacon18]

So you are saying that a bodybuilder should reduce volume on key body parts (see: lateral/posterior deltoids, arms, hamstrings..) straight away when going on a deficit and focus on strength oriented training instead? That is pure nonsense.

You should always train in a manner that maximizes hypertrophy. Depending on your starting point, you can still improve during the early phases of the deficit. As time goes on, your overall training volume will more or less autoregulate itself. It would be detrimental just to cut down your training volume straight away.

i was more suggesting that instead of doing say a 3x8 for bench (typical bodybuilding scheme) to switch to a 5x5 instead.

but if mccoy agrees, theres a good chance you should listen to him over me

[Jherewhoisdere]

i was more suggesting that instead of doing say a 3x8 for bench (typical bodybuilding scheme) to switch to a 5x5 instead.

but if mccoy agrees, theres a good chance you should listen to him over me

In that case your initial post was quite misleading IMO.

I don't really agree with your suggestion here either. The volume as in total reps is essentially the same but in the case of 5x5 you would work at a higher intensity which eventually will catch up to you as you approach very low body fat. Working at a higher intensity is more prone to injuries - especially when combined with low body fat level.

Just my 2 cents.

[Dan_Staat]

Tbh the best thing to do when cutting I'd to stop lifting. That way you lose weight without having to feel weak in the gym.

Plus there's no real risk of muscle loss since natties can't gain muscle anyway

[rectifryer]

In defense of power lifters they wouldn't cut accessories either. They'd cut volume on the main lifts when they had to, but working weak spots is the whole point of body building and power lifting. The easiest way to do that is with accessory work. It's just dumb to cut accessory movements in general.

[Dan_Staat]

In defense of power lifters they wouldn't cut accessories either. They'd cut volume on the main lifts when they had to, but working weak spots is the whole point of body building and power lifting. The easiest way to do that is with accessory work. It's just dumb to cut accessory movements in general.

Actually during a deficit I'd rather cut from accessories than from main lifts.


Why would I do as many biceps curls as before, but less bench press? The neural efficiency coming from practice is now lessened for a movement that requires practice...and given up for a movement or movements that don't help much during a deficit because muscle gain is limited at best

[simpson54]

Actually during a deficit I'd rather cut from accessories than from main lifts.


Why would I do as many biceps curls as before, but less bench press? The neural efficiency coming from practice is now lessened for a movement that requires practice...and given up for a movement or movements that don't help much during a deficit because muscle gain is limited at best

Agree.

I dont do many accessories whether cutting or bulking, tbh. Just the big 3 and variations of those

[midcoastking33]

need to deload from volume at some point; might as well be when you're cutting

[cncman]

savage

[Dan_Staat]

need to deload from volume at some point; might as well be when you're cutting

Dasitmane. Deload for life

Agree.

I dont do many accessories whether cutting or bulking, tbh. Just the big 3 and variations of those

Coming from a 1750 total. Hnng fap fap

[Kraken]

Tons of reps, tons of sets, and entirely focusing on the pump/squeeze.

I'm not really sure that's exactly what he was saying.

Volume should certainly NOT go up on a diet, because that would be anabolic suicide for a natty lifter. For a lot of natty lifters, lowering volume as you get to lower BFs isn't a bad idea. I don't suggest removing auxiliary lifts, as mentioned above, however, you have to admit, eating in a surplus and eating in a deficit will certainly have an impact on lifting and how easy the body can recover.

An example would be to do 6 sets of auxiliary muscle work vs 9, but keep lifting like you normally would otherwise. There is no reason to go high rep just because you're on a diet. In fact, it's a myth that high reps are better while dieting.

[jshaw5]

[deltpecx]

So you are saying that a bodybuilder should reduce volume on key body parts (see: lateral/posterior deltoids, arms, hamstrings..) straight away when going on a deficit and focus on strength oriented training instead? That is pure nonsense.

You should always train in a manner that maximizes hypertrophy. Depending on your starting point, you can still improve during the early phases of the deficit. As time goes on, your overall training volume will more or less autoregulate itself. It would be detrimental just to cut down your training volume straight away.

Got to agree here ... as you get lower in cals and carbs (especially if prepping) you really won't be able to go past a certain point at the gym ... and you'll know that point alright. When dieting i prefer pump workouts. 1 body part per day - maybe two. Tons of reps, tons of sets, and entirely focusing on the pump/squeeze. That's me personally, though.

I like these!!!!!

[deltpecx]

i was more suggesting that instead of doing say a 3x8 for bench (typical bodybuilding scheme) ....

[rectifryer]

Actually during a deficit I'd rather cut from accessories than from main lifts.


Why would I do as many biceps curls as before, but less bench press? The neural efficiency coming from practice is now lessened for a movement that requires practice...and given up for a movement or movements that don't help much during a deficit because muscle gain is limited at best

Because isolation exercises are generally less taxing regardless. If you're doing compound assistance exercises like good mornings or similar then I agree.

Also I was talking about cutting out accessory work ENTIRELY heh. Not such a great idea.

[mccoy19]

I'm not really sure that's exactly what he was saying.

Volume should certainly NOT go up on a diet, because that would be anabolic suicide for a natty lifter. For a lot of natty lifters, lowering volume as you get to lower BFs isn't a bad idea. I don't suggest removing auxiliary lifts, as mentioned above, however, you have to admit, eating in a surplus and eating in a deficit will certainly have an impact on lifting and how easy the body can recover.

An example would be to do 6 sets of auxiliary muscle work vs 9, but keep lifting like you normally would otherwise. There is no reason to go high rep just because you're on a diet. In fact, it's a myth that high reps are better while dieting.

As to the last sentence ... I didn't in the least try to claim going high rep in a deficit would be better for 'toning' (I think that's the myth?) Regardless, I also wouldn't claim it's a "myth that doing high reps is better while dieting" ... too many variables at play to state that. Everyone's body is different, different supplementation, etc. I was stating what works for me ... I'm more injury prone so especially when dieting I find high reps allows me to keep some fullness without having to use heavy weights and risk injury. I lift for fun and pleasure ... an injury sidelining me is stupid considering this is a hobby. So I'm very much for injury prevention, which for me is especially important when in a big deficit and extra 'dry'.

Definitely no one size fits all ... look at the top pro bodybuilders ... some pound heavy weight non stop and some are more pump chasers getting the blood flow in and grow doing that. Heavy weight is good, but I reserve it for when I'm not dieting for the most part.

There's just so many ways to skin this thing ... it really comes down to preference and figuring out one's own body. Fascinating stuff, though!

[SELVER7]

not enough chit talking itt

[Dan_Staat]

not enough chit talking itt

i thought you owned a gtr you soccer playing piece of chit