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    Grandpa Yoda or other Oregon folks, I'm assuming y'all have run ECA stacks - have y'all been able to just go across the bridge to Washington and get Ephedine that way? Or do I have to be craftier?
    I've never done ECA.
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    Fuk...ate so much today. my triceps lok pissening like the big inner muscle separates into 2 when flexing, too bad muscle belly is real and nips aint cray cray

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    Originally Posted by AfroPope View Post
    Grandpa Yoda or other Oregon folks, I'm assuming y'all have run ECA stacks - have y'all been able to just go across the bridge to Washington and get Ephedine that way? Or do I have to be craftier?
    cant just get bronkaid over the counter there? If not, it really really is not worth making a trip to anywhere for some ECA. No fat burning stim is reaaallllly that great in the long run. If it is easy, accessible, and cheap i say why not but I would never go out of my way for one. Trust me I have done them all many times(except dnp) and none of them really have any great effect on you. IT is far more just about diet and exercise
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    cant just get bronkaid over the counter there? If not, it really really is not worth making a trip to anywhere for some ECA. No fat burning stim is reaaallllly that great in the long run. If it is easy, accessible, and cheap i say why not but I would never go out of my way for one. Trust me I have done them all many times(except dnp) and none of them really have any great effect on you. IT is far more just about diet and exercise
    The only fat burner that works despite diet is dnp because if you cheat and eat a bunch of carbs you'll sweat until you decide never to eat them again
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    Met a guy from my gym who has ordered it from china.
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    y breh? u get fat again?
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    Finally have visible abs without flexing and veins popping all over my body, maybe like a day or two more and I'll be done with my cut. Not hungry at all but constantly thinking about food and feeling cold af due to low bodyfat% sucks

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    Originally Posted by Anabainon View Post
    Finally have visible abs without flexing and veins popping all over my body, maybe like a day or two more and I'll be done with my cut. Not hungry at all but constantly thinking about food and feeling cold af due to low bodyfat% sucks

    How do you guys reverse out of the cutting phase without eating everything in sight and gaining all the lost fat back in 2 days?
    I'm in the same boat. Slowly upping calories, but my body and mind are screaming out for more food. Feels like I'm still cutting tbh. All you can really do is push through it. Mind over matter brah, don't let all your hard work go to waste.

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    Originally Posted by Anabainon View Post
    Finally have visible abs without flexing and veins popping all over my body, maybe like a day or two more and I'll be done with my cut. Not hungry at all but constantly thinking about food and feeling cold af due to low bodyfat% sucks

    How do you guys reverse out of the cutting phase without eating everything in sight and gaining all the lost fat back in 2 days?
    When the show is done I just eat a little bit more each week.
    I slowly add calories back.
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    Thats why I prob wont even get shredded this year, whats the point? You get shredded - hungry af, eat a little more cals = lose shreds easy

    Get lean enough where you see abs when flexing and feel good in clothes and not be hungry all the time is the goal. Maintain that if possible and ull make it
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    Originally Posted by PeteJonesHTX View Post
    I'm in the same boat. Slowly upping calories, but my body and mind are screaming out for more food. Feels like I'm still cutting tbh. All you can really do is push through it. Mind over matter brah, don't let all your hard work go to waste.

    Also, pics? (no homo)
    My mind is pretty much screaming for food yet I don't really feel hungry, I can just imagine once I start upping calories I will feel even more mentally hungry

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    Thats why I prob wont even get shredded this year, whats the point? You get shredded - hungry af, eat a little more cals = lose shreds easy

    Get lean enough where you see abs when flexing and feel good in clothes and not be hungry all the time is the goal. Maintain that if possible and ull make it
    Being shredded is not worth it, I'm so food focused I can't really concentrate on anything properly, I can't even imagine a true bodybuilder contest shape, holy fuk those guys are mental

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    Being shredded is not worth it, I'm so food focused I can't really concentrate on anything properly, I can't even imagine a true bodybuilder contest shape, holy fuk those guys are mental
    That's how it was for me during the end of my cut. Didn't even think about sex that much, just food lol. I was miserable, few things are worse than going to bed hungry every night for weeks on end. I'd tease myself by scrolling through fast food restaurants' websites looking at all the desserts and knowing I couldn't have them srs.
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    Im so lucky Ive been able to stay somewhat lean the last half year, cause Ive been eating like chit. Im talking fast food so much my bank account hurts.
    Will clean up diet during the 5week cut though, want to maximize results. 5weeks should allow for a nice 10lbs loss Im thinking
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    That's how it was for me during the end of my cut. Didn't even think about sex that much, just food lol. I was miserable, few things are worse than going to bed hungry every night for weeks on end. I'd tease myself by scrolling through fast food restaurants' websites looking at all the desserts and knowing I couldn't have them srs.
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    Originally Posted by PeteJonesHTX View Post
    That's how it was for me during the end of my cut. Didn't even think about sex that much, just food lol. I was miserable, few things are worse than going to bed hungry every night for weeks on end. I'd tease myself by scrolling through fast food restaurants' websites looking at all the desserts and knowing I couldn't have them srs.
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    Originally Posted by PeteJonesHTX View Post
    That's how it was for me during the end of my cut. Didn't even think about sex that much, just food lol. I was miserable, few things are worse than going to bed hungry every night for weeks on end. I'd tease myself by scrolling through fast food restaurants' websites looking at all the desserts and knowing I couldn't have them srs.
    Haha I watch all those cheat meal videos on youtube for the very same reason
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    Started cutting recently, started tracking macro and calories four days ago

    Had wings (sauceless) from dominos last night
    Weighed in at my lowest since I started tracking and daily weigh ins
    Averaging about 2,100 calories a day the past four days, with a deficit average of 1,750.
    Goal for the first 1/3-1/2 of summer is averaging 1,500 calorie deficit, and then move closer to 1,000 for the rest (till the end of August)

    Is there any reason for me to not order wings from bdubs tonight? I'm doing IF so all my calories are from 3:30-11:30 (16-8 for now). All I've had is a banana ~100 calories. Large boneless w my sauce is 1620 calories, or 1460 for boned wings. Could do the 1460 + 100 cal nana. Would give me about 540 calories left for the night to have chicken breasts, vegetables, whatever. Any negative to having more wings?
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    Originally Posted by Pungiish View Post
    Thats what i was doing too. Got through every junk food in store and checked its cals
    Was just at the store about 2 hours ago and I literally went through every pint/flavor of haagen-dazs to look at the macros lmao. Mind was blown at how unhealthy that shyt is, it's like 1000 calories a pint. Tastes fkn goood tho.
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    Originally Posted by BigStewTheJew View Post
    Started cutting recently, started tracking macro and calories four days ago

    Had wings (sauceless) from dominos last night
    Weighed in at my lowest since I started tracking and daily weigh ins
    Averaging about 2,100 calories a day the past four days, with a deficit average of 1,750.
    Goal for the first 1/3-1/2 of summer is averaging 1,500 calorie deficit, and then move closer to 1,000 for the rest (till the end of August)

    Is there any reason for me to not order wings from bdubs tonight? I'm doing IF so all my calories are from 3:30-11:30 (16-8 for now). All I've had is a banana ~100 calories. Large boneless w my sauce is 1620 calories, or 1460 for boned wings. Could do the 1460 + 100 cal nana. Would give me about 540 calories left for the night to have chicken breasts, vegetables, whatever. Any negative to having more wings?
    Your deficit seems WAYYY too high holy fck.
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    Originally Posted by mh22 View Post
    Thats why I prob wont even get shredded this year, whats the point? You get shredded - hungry af, eat a little more cals = lose shreds easy

    Get lean enough where you see abs when flexing and feel good in clothes and not be hungry all the time is the goal. Maintain that if possible and ull make it
    I did that last year. Hovered around 12% and just enjoyed the summer. Brb, still leaner than 90% of the population and not always hungry.

    As for not gorging and getting fat after a diet, increase your calories by 200 calories for the first week or two, then another 100-200. Don't make it all carbs immediately either. Increase fats and carbs to accomplish this, then slow lower fats back down and carbs back up. You should be close to your maintenance by that point. If you gorge immediately, your hunger will hit you really hard and will become hard to resist.
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    Originally Posted by PeteJonesHTX View Post
    Your deficit seems WAYYY too high holy fck.
    whys that? My macros seem fine...

    I'm also in a lot worse shape than I've been because I haven't really lifted or counted, I got lazy this entire school year.. and part of last year

    I figured I could start with a 3lb/week deficit for until my internship starts (bout 2-2.5 weeks till then) and then taper down to more like a 1000 cal deficit. This is obviously combining cardio and food, not just a food deficit. Also with the supplements I'm using, I'm hungry, but not like starving or anything like that, feel pretty good thus far actually.
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    Originally Posted by BigStewTheJew View Post
    Started cutting recently, started tracking macro and calories four days ago

    Had wings (sauceless) from dominos last night
    Weighed in at my lowest since I started tracking and daily weigh ins
    Averaging about 2,100 calories a day the past four days, with a deficit average of 1,750.
    Goal for the first 1/3-1/2 of summer is averaging 1,500 calorie deficit, and then move closer to 1,000 for the rest (till the end of August)

    Is there any reason for me to not order wings from bdubs tonight? I'm doing IF so all my calories are from 3:30-11:30 (16-8 for now). All I've had is a banana ~100 calories. Large boneless w my sauce is 1620 calories, or 1460 for boned wings. Could do the 1460 + 100 cal nana. Would give me about 540 calories left for the night to have chicken breasts, vegetables, whatever. Any negative to having more wings?
    there are about 100 reasons why you should not be having buffalo wings on a regular basis just because you are in a deficit and doing IF. The fact that you even ask that makes me not want to respond because you clearly have done no real research and are just following the basic principle you read/heard somewhere

    Originally Posted by BigStewTheJew View Post
    whys that? My macros seem fine...

    I'm also in a lot worse shape than I've been because I haven't really lifted or counted, I got lazy this entire school year.. and part of last year

    I figured I could start with a 3lb/week deficit for until my internship starts (bout 2-2.5 weeks till then) and then taper down to more like a 1000 cal deficit. This is obviously combining cardio and food, not just a food deficit. Also with the supplements I'm using, I'm hungry, but not like starving or anything like that, feel pretty good thus far actually.
    JFC guy, you are starting off with a moderate to high deficit coming from taking time off and being lazy. You are doing it so wrong. Focus more on macros and not calories and get into a regular gym and workout routine for a few months, pack back on some mass and strength, then worry about cutting.
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    Originally Posted by Jestbrah View Post
    there are about 100 reasons why you should not be having buffalo wings on a regular basis just because you are in a deficit and doing IF. The fact that you even ask that makes me not want to respond because you clearly have done no real research and are just following the basic principle you read/heard somewhere



    JFC guy, you are starting off with a moderate to high deficit coming from taking time off and being lazy. You are doing it so wrong. Focus more on macros and not calories and get into a regular gym and workout routine for a few months, pack back on some mass and strength, then worry about cutting.
    To the first part - true. I've never been at the point before, so I wasn't sure if it'd be bad to do early in my cut. In the past when I started my cut, I was never this bf%. Mass and strength isn't an issue. Majority (not all) of my muscle is still there, and my strength is still fine (squatting 365x7, bench 315x3, incline 260x5, deadlift in mid 400s for reps). Weaker than I used to be, but I'm also not playing sports anymore so strength isn't a huge concern to me.


    Macros average has been ~200g protein, 185g carbs, and 70g fats. It's not perfect, but it doesn't seem horrible (unless I am missing something), but sodium seems high at 3900mg average (wings def raised average). The issue is in the past for sports and the 2 competitions I did, I did really simple diets, and really liked keto but it isn't something I want to do again unless I get to low digits....


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