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    what body fat %? bulk or cut?

    5'11" 192lbs

    Been lifting for one week, Allpro.

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    I'd say cut for a few months post again. You look like you have enough mass to look good at 170 or so.
    Starting Weight 215, 25% BF
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    Originally Posted by Norrov View Post
    I'd say cut for a few months post again. You look like you have enough mass to look good at 170 or so.
    Thanks for the reply. Do you think Allpro is a good routine for me to start with or would you recommend something else. I do want to lose fat but I figured as a beginner I would be able to loose fat and gain muscle for a few months.
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    Anyone else got suggestions? Thanks
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    Bulk. Not gonna be happy with the result after cut. Put on another 10-15 lbs.
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    Originally Posted by alobri3 View Post
    Bulk. Not gonna be happy with the result after cut. Put on another 10-15 lbs.
    Would you recommend I start with Allpro or something else?
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    Honestly - does not matter. Pick any proven routine and stick with it. The first 2 years all of them will work as long as you progress on your lifts. Make sure you add weight/reps every week and keep eating at a slight surplus. Aim for a 1lbs a week until you reach a goal. Set a goal if you didn't. Say 215lbs. Once you reach that goal, adjust the food intake to lose/cut 1lbs a week. Remember to keep adjusting the diet every 2 weeks or so as your requirements change with weight. Rinse and repeat 2-3 times. Should take about 2 years. Then cut one last time and switch to a much slower bulk, maybe at a rate of 1-2lbs a month.

    At some point (aprx 6 month) switch from a full body routine to upper/lower. Stay there for another 6 month, or indefinitely (as you wish), but try 3 day PPL split at some point 1- 1.5 years into it. After about 2 years+ you can try the Bro split. After trying all of that in time, you will have a good idea what feels better to you and what works best. Keep in mind that as a beginner you will experience your biggest gains in these 2 years, after that it will slow down quote significantly. Make sure to account for that as you decide what works. Truth is - all splits "work", it is a matter of finding the best one to suit your lifestyle and continue to progress on your lifts, grates much slower then at first.

    Track your workouts in a phone app. It is easy to do and will help a lot in making sure you progress. Make sure your either track calories, Macros or simply make up a diet of same foods to eat day in and day out. Make sure the diet is balanced and rich in protein.

    It is rather simple considering you are a healthy individual and not preparing to go on stage, that's where it will get tricky.
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    Originally Posted by alobri3 View Post
    Honestly - does not matter. Pick any proven routine and stick with it. The first 2 years all of them will work as long as you progress on your lifts. Make sure you add weight/reps every week and keep eating at a slight surplus. Aim for a 1lbs a week until you reach a goal. Set a goal if you didn't. Say 215lbs. Once you reach that goal, adjust the food intake to lose/cut 1lbs a week. Remember to keep adjusting the diet every 2 weeks or so as your requirements change with weight. Rinse and repeat 2-3 times. Should take about 2 years. Then cut one last time and switch to a much slower bulk, maybe at a rate of 1-2lbs a month.

    At some point (aprx 6 month) switch from a full body routine to upper/lower. Stay there for another 6 month, or indefinitely (as you wish), but try 3 day PPL split at some point 1- 1.5 years into it. After about 2 years+ you can try the Bro split. After trying all of that in time, you will have a good idea what feels better to you and what works best. Keep in mind that as a beginner you will experience your biggest gains in these 2 years, after that it will slow down quote significantly. Make sure to account for that as you decide what works. Truth is - all splits "work", it is a matter of finding the best one to suit your lifestyle and continue to progress on your lifts, grates much slower then at first.

    Track your workouts in a phone app. It is easy to do and will help a lot in making sure you progress. Make sure your either track calories, Macros or simply make up a diet of same foods to eat day in and day out. Make sure the diet is balanced and rich in protein.

    It is rather simple considering you are a healthy individual and not preparing to go on stage, that's where it will get tricky.
    Alright man, appreciate the input.
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    uhm well i would say lean bulk
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    18 % roughly IMO
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    18 % roughly IMO
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    if you're making strength gains, then make it 2 plates bench, 3 plate deads. After which cut.
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