Who is the Best Bodybuilder of all Time?

[3rn]

you serious? Look at the leg and glute detail, the delt separation. Ronnie's best condition is superior to Phil's best.

You're entitled to your opinion pal. I agree with you that ronnie's glutes/hamstrings look slightly more striated. But Phil's whole arm is considerably more shredded and his back is better conditioned. Those outweight having superior glutes/hamstrings in that pose IMO.

[SammyJr]

ronnie sh*ts on phil, that's not debatable at all

[3rn]

ronnie sh*ts on phil, that's not debatable at all

I'm yet to see anyone that can match his conditioning, including Ronnie Coleman.

[3rn]

Phil actually makes Ronnie Coleman's back look poor in this attached pic...

Phil is underrated as fuark.

Maybe people will hop on the Heath bandwagon if/when he beats the Mr Olympia record of 8 wins. And he's certainly capable of doing that. The guy smokes everyone on stage...Kai Greene/Jay Cutler/Dexter Jackson aren't exactly slouches either.

[BartPimpson]

Please don't photoshop two bodybuilders together. It proves nothing.

It's easy to take the best pic of bodybuilder A and compare it with the worst pic of bodybuilder B, or to improperly scale them so that a height difference disappears or increases. I once made a side-by-side where Lee Labrada looks bigger than Ronnie Coleman. You can literally do it with any two bodybuilders.

[Grapplingmuscle]

I voted for Ronnie because it's hard to argue with his combination of sheer mass combined with great conditioning and good shape, especially early on.
Arnold obviously doesn't hold up in comparison to modern day greats on stage; it's just a different world. As far as his place as the all time king of bodybuilding, I think he may always have that title.
As usual, the hate for Phil is remarkably strong in this thread. People are fooling themselves who don't feel he is the best bodybuilder in the world right now, and right up there with the greats of all time. Reality is he probably will break the all time record for sandows and he will be crowned one of the greatest of all time. Looking at these comparison pictures, he holds up remarkably well with Ronnie, Haney, and Dorian. I think he finishes second at worst in a real world contest amongst all these greats

[3rn]

Please don't photoshop two bodybuilders together. It proves nothing.

It's easy to take the best pic of bodybuilder A and compare it with the worst pic of bodybuilder B, or to improperly scale them so that a height difference disappears or increases. I once made a side-by-side where Lee Labrada looks bigger than Ronnie Coleman. You can literally do it with any two bodybuilders.

But I haven't taken the worst picture of certain bodybuilders and compared it to the best of others?

And if you look at the comparisons I've scaled it accurately, rather than manipulating it. This isn't a biased thread of trying to prove someone's better than somebody else. I'm a neutral so I'm genuinely interested in how these bodybuilders look on stage together.

[3rn]

I voted for Ronnie because it's hard to argue with his combination of sheer mass combined with great conditioning and good shape, especially early on.
Arnold obviously doesn't hold up in comparison to modern day greats on stage; it's just a different world. As far as his place as the all time king of bodybuilding, I think he may always have that title.
As usual, the hate for Phil is remarkably strong in this thread. People are fooling themselves who don't feel he is the best bodybuilder in the world right now, and right up there with the greats of all time. Reality is he probably will break the all time record for sandows and he will be crowned one of the greatest of all time. Looking at these comparison pictures, he holds up remarkably well with Ronnie, Haney, and Dorian. I think he finishes second at worst in a real world contest amongst all these greats

Truth.

I took into account aesthetics, so I marked Arnold generously in the article; but today's judges wouldn't because his legs and back are weak.

[Unbiasedfan]

Phil actually makes Ronnie Coleman's back look poor in this attached pic...

If that is true, we can conclude that that pic is pure nonsense (shocking i know, side by side pics of different shows are usually so reliable ).

[Grapplingmuscle]

Truth.

I took into account aesthetics, so I marked Arnold generously in the article; but today's judges wouldn't because his legs and back are weak.

Repped for the good work put in to making the pics, thread and poll.

And PS. Lolol at people saying that Kai should be ranked ahead of Phil, or should replace him in the poll. Lost head to head against him repeatedly, zero sandows ever to 5 and counting. Yep, definitely a much better bodybuilder

[IAmNando]

Dorian for me, gotta' support a fellow Brit where I can haha, jokes. C'mon, the mans back speaks for itself. You could land a Jumbo Jet on them lats. For me, a back will make or break your physique. It's 1/2 of your upper-body.

[JigPig]

Ronnie Coleman would demolish phil on stage. Bigger, freakier, more conditioned and having that insane rippling effect when he flexes.


Side by side pictures with different lighting isn't accurate

[FAN0FdaSport]

]Phil's whole arm is considerably more shredded and his back is better conditioned. Those outweight having superior glutes/hamstrings in that pose IMO.

This is one of those things you read from the type of forum poster that have never competed, seen anyone compete, been to a show, or had any in person experience in bbing other than a computer screen. Seriously when dafuq has arm conditioning been a thing in bbing other than between old fat ladies...

[Gorky88]

Lol Ron vs Phil

[JaxVilleNick]

Haha seriously. No doubt Phil is in great condition and has good muscle bellies in the comparison pics but one thing they don't really show is the fact that Ronnie was overall bigger. Wider muscles bellies (compare their chests)while being just as conditioned

[3rn]

Repped for the good work put in to making the pics, thread and poll.

And PS. Lolol at people saying that Kai should be ranked ahead of Phil, or should replace him in the poll. Lost head to head against him repeatedly, zero sandows ever to 5 and counting. Yep, definitely a much better bodybuilder

Thanks bro

[3rn]

Phil Heath - 0 votes lol

[BiggerTommorow]

Phil Heath - 0 votes lol

the funny part is Phil deserves less votes than he has...

[ivanporkinurwif]

So you've probably got your own opinion on who you think the best bodybuilder of all time is...

I've spent the last couple of days creating picture comparisons of the top 5 Mr Olympia champions. So it looks as if they're all on stage stood next to each other. This way you can make a more accurate decision on who you think looks the best from all the different eras.

The 5 bodybuilders selected are:

Arnold, Lee Haney, Ronnie Coleman, Dorian Yates and Phil Heath.

I've created comparison pictures for the 7 different compulsory poses (attached), so vote/comment below on who you think looks the best!

Ps. you can read the full article here - http://jackednatural.com/best-bodybuilder-ever/

it's Ronnie end of story

[wolfLarson]

LOL

That article didnt have dorian coming either first or second for anything back related. Grainy conditioning + thickness dont count for much these days I guess. Article also never seemed to point out the lack of mass on Arnies legs.

[lordlosh]

This pic comparison means absolutely nothing. Phil looking as big and as wide as Ronnie, which in real life thats simply not even close.
To compare them you need a video, not scale pictures. I can make myself looking bigger then Ronnie ....
Ronnie was so much bigger and wider then Phil, and its not even close. And No Phil was not better conditioned then Ronnie.
Even at his best Phixy was big time narrow, his chest simply looks laughable.
Yeah tell me how they are in 1 category about size and width:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1n6kmpwCe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvWRULZ6uyg
Ron is like 2x wider and so much bigger then Phixy and yes Ron still is in better condition.
And judges may gift him even 10 Olympia title, and he still wont be the Best of All Time ....

[3rn]

This pic comparison means absolutely nothing. Phil looking as big and as wide as Ronnie, which in real life thats simply not even close.
To compare them you need a video, not scale pictures. I can make myself looking bigger then Ronnie ....
Ronnie was so much bigger and wider then Phil, and its not even close. And No Phil was not better conditioned then Ronnie.
Even at his best Phixy was big time narrow, his chest simply looks laughable.
Yeah tell me how they are in 1 category about size and width:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1n6kmpwCe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvWRULZ6uyg
Ron is like 2x wider and so much bigger then Phixy and yes Ron still is in better condition.
And judges may gift him even 10 Olympia title, and he still wont be the Best of All Time ....

No, the comparison pics in the article show Ronnie having a lot more mass in his back, but Phil having slightly better conditioning as expected.

[3rn]

LOL

That article didnt have dorian coming either first or second for anything back related. Grainy conditioning + thickness dont count for much these days I guess. Article also never seemed to point out the lack of mass on Arnies legs.

That's because Dorian doesn't have as much mass as Ronnie in his back and isn't as conditioned as Phil's.

[lordlosh]

3rn, then no one can help you. Buy yourself a glasses ....
There is 2 videos in my post, which clearly show that Ronnie is better condition and is so much bigger and wider. In the picture you cant see this because of sh** scale .... Ronnie back is wider, bigger, better conditioned, overall much better then Heath one. Not even want to tlak about RLS, and how much ownage Ronnie give to Phily there. The width difference there is like a Pro vs Amateur ....
And you know what i didnt even put the best Ronnie Olympia, while in the same time i put best of Phixy and still Ronnie destroy him.

[3rn]

3rn, then no one can help you. Buy yourself a glasses ....
There is 2 videos in my post, which clearly show that Ronnie is better condition and is so much bigger and wider. In the picture you cant see this because of sh** scale .... Ronnie back is wider, bigger, better conditioned, overall much better then Heath one. Not even want to tlak about RLS, and how much ownage Ronnie give to Phily there. The width difference there is like a Pro vs Amateur ....
And you know what i didnt even put the best Ronnie Olympia, while in the same time i put best of Phixy and still Ronnie destroy him.

Nope, the videos confirmed what I already saw from the pictures - that Phil's condition is superior. You keep repeating yourself saying Ronnie's back is bigger than Phil Heath's...all of us already know that. The attachments of 'back double bicep' and 'rear lat spread' confirm this.

[JaxVilleNick]

Nope, the videos confirmed what I already saw from the pictures - that Phil's condition is superior. You keep repeating yourself saying Ronnie's back is bigger than Phil Heath's...all of us already know that. The attachments of 'back double bicep' and 'rear lat spread' confirm this.

Ronnie's 98/99 Olympia packages sh*t on anything Phil has ever brought to the stage, period. End of story.

[deathmetal1992]

Don't know what to say. OP honestly thinks Phil is in the same league as Coleman? Lmao. Phil at his best isn't even on Jay's level, never mind Ronnie's. He beats Dorian, Lee and Arnold but that's just cause he's 20-40 years ahead of them, so that's not a fair comparison, who knows what they would have looked like had they been at their peak nowadays. Ronnie is an anomaly, he is the only bodybuilder from the 90s who can smash every bodybuilder in the modern era even without their stacks; Levrone, Flex and company are both more gifted than Phil but they would get beaten just due to advances in technology. The only bodybuilder who can surpass peak Ronnie in the foreseeable future is a chap named Big Ramy, but only if he reaches Ronnie's level of conditioning.

[deathmetal1992]

Please don't photoshop two bodybuilders together. It proves nothing.

It's easy to take the best pic of bodybuilder A and compare it with the worst pic of bodybuilder B, or to improperly scale them so that a height difference disappears or increases. I once made a side-by-side where Lee Labrada looks bigger than Ronnie Coleman. You can literally do it with any two bodybuilders.

OP must think we're morons. Phil's pic is far sharper than Ronnie's and that's not cause of conditioning, it's cause he wants to prove a point. Also, I wasn't aware Phil's head was that much bigger than Ronnie's irl.

[KevinSorbo]

OP is delusional and made this thread expecting/hoping for support on his Phil obsession.

[spamy]

Agree with this. However if judges wanted to sway with conditioning over size, Phil would beat Ronnie.

The list is made up of those who have won the most Olympias. Also Phil will go down as one of the greatest ever by the time he retires imo. His conditioning is on another level...even when compared to other great Mr Olympia champions.

Ronnie's no doubt the biggest, but he doesn't have the best conditioning.

I think Phil could beat him (despite being smaller).

Have you seen the comparisons? Phil is considerably better conditioned in every pose.

I chose the 5 bodybuilders with the most Mr Olympia titles.

You have a point on the back double bicep, but that's strong lighting on ronnie's pic. I still think Phil edges him on conditioning (not mass) from the back.

See the attachment when the lighting is equal

You're entitled to your opinion pal. I agree with you that ronnie's glutes/hamstrings look slightly more striated. But Phil's whole arm is considerably more shredded and his back is better conditioned. Those outweight having superior glutes/hamstrings in that pose IMO.

Phil actually makes Ronnie Coleman's back look poor in this attached pic...

Phil is underrated as fuark.

Maybe people will hop on the Heath bandwagon if/when he beats the Mr Olympia record of 8 wins. And he's certainly capable of doing that. The guy smokes everyone on stage...Kai Greene/Jay Cutler/Dexter Jackson aren't exactly slouches either.