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    APS Mesomorph Reviews?

    What are people thoughts on Mesomorph Pre workout by APS? I have generally seen good review and considering trying. Thoughts?
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    ITs good I have only tried version 1 but it is one of my favorites. Even though Dust Extreme has more dmaa in it I think I still prefer mesomorph
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    If you like DMAA, it's a solid choice.
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    Love it. Just found my new go to pre.
    If you enjoy stims and a serious pump, this one's for you.
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    The DMAA version is a favorite here on the forum of those that like DMAA. Excellent focus, good and lasting energy(for me, some ppl crash), and I find it even gives pretty darn good pumps.
    Progressive overload + progressive eating = gains. Simple as that!
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    Forgive my ignorance, but just getting up to speed on DMAA now. See the FDA says to avoid it. What are thoughts here?
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    It's a pretty good pre workout and talked about pretty often on these forums and pretty much everywhere else :P shouldn't be hard to find many reviews of each flavor even.

    I like the pink lemonade most right now even more than rocket pop which is also pretty good. As to effects I would put it in my top 5 pretty good energy/focus.
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    Originally Posted by boselli77 View Post
    Forgive my ignorance, but just getting up to speed on DMAA now. See the FDA says to avoid it. What are thoughts here?
    Don't even know where to start on how sad and pathetic the FDA is lol

    1980s and 1990s and even now the fear of saturated fats by the FDA where they have sent warning letters to companies for a food containing more than 1g of saturated fat per serving in whole nut bars etc... lol

    The anti egg adds of the 1990s and fear of sat/unsat dietary fats lulz ( not supported by studies at the very same time on the fear of dietary fat either )

    But hey the massively cheap subsidized carbs replacing the fats ya they healthy skyrocketing obesity in the wake of dietary fat fear doe...

    I am sure vaugn will come in and post the Hi-Tech vs FDA lawsuit over DMAA 1,3-Dim which they are making some victories in perhaps that will shed some additional light. But I myself find it to be worth using.
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    Originally Posted by Rob1882 View Post
    Don't even know where to start on how sad and pathetic the FDA is lol

    1980s and 1990s and even now the fear of saturated fats by the FDA where they have sent warning letters to companies for a food containing more than 1g of saturated fat per serving in whole nut bars etc... lol

    The anti egg adds of the 1990s and fear of sat/unsat dietary fats lulz ( not supported by studies at the very same time on the fear of dietary fat either )

    But hey the massively cheap subsidized carbs replacing the fats ya they healthy skyrocketing obesity in the wake of dietary fat fear doe...
    could not agree more with that. i see you lost 175. I lost 100 eating real foods. So I guess that means you like DMAA?
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    Originally Posted by boselli77 View Post
    could not agree more with that. i see you lost 175. I lost 100 eating real foods. So I guess that means you like DMAA?
    Yes to the DMAA had edited in additionals

    As to the weight loss I also use natural whole animal fats ( Duck, Pork, Goose fats ) to cook all my foods in 7-14g at a time for whole meals so not a lot but enough to create flavor and add some dietary fats.

    Edit from above: I am sure vaugn will come in and post the Hi-Tech vs FDA lawsuit over DMAA 1,3-Dim which they are making some victories in perhaps that will shed some additional light. But I myself find it to be worth using.
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    Originally Posted by Rob1882 View Post
    Yes to the DMAA had edited in additionals

    As to the weight loss I also use natural whole animal fats ( Duck, Pork, Goose fats ) to cook all my foods in 7-14g at a time for whole meals so not a lot but enough to create flavor and add some dietary fats.

    Edit from above: I am sure vaugn will come in and post the Hi-Tech vs FDA lawsuit over DMAA 1,3-Dim which they are making some victories in perhaps that will shed some additional light. But I myself find it to be worth using.
    Thanks!! and btw, "The Big Fat Surprise" By Nina Teicholz is a cool read on history of fats in this country, if you are not familiar already
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    The formula is built entirely around the DMAA. I love it, had some great lifts on it and have a tub at home, but without the DMAA, I wouldn't even consider it as an option. If the DMAA is all you're looking for, and/or if you dose BA regularly, then Meso will do you right. If you want the DMAA but also want a more rounded formula, consider Dust Extreme.
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    Originally Posted by BenBlue View Post
    The formula is built entirely around the DMAA. I love it, had some great lifts on it and have a tub at home, but without the DMAA, I wouldn't even consider it as an option. If the DMAA is all you're looking for, and/or if you dose BA regularly, then Meso will do you right. If you want the DMAA but also want a more rounded formula, consider Dust Extreme.
    IDK, Meso is pretty soild rounded formula. its unfortunate its a prop blend though so you can't tell the doses.
    Its got CM, agmatine, cop and creatine nitrates which appear to be at decent doses..
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    Meso is an excellent opition for heavy and high volume days.
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    OP it's become my favorite pre. Pumps, energy and focus are insane
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    I think you would be able to find some very positive reviews from all around the web. As others have said, Mesomorph is a great PWO for using on PR days, heavy days, days that you really need energy, etc.
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    out of all the DMAA based preworkouts ive had so far, this one seems to be my one of my least favorites. The only one i dislike more than this is Jacked Up.
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    Originally Posted by xpin2winx View Post
    out of all the DMAA based preworkouts ive had so far, this one seems to be my one of my least favorites. The only one i dislike more than this is Jacked Up.
    what is your current fave out of curiosity?
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    what is your current fave out of curiosity?
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    Originally Posted by xpin2winx View Post
    out of all the DMAA based preworkouts ive had so far, this one seems to be my one of my least favorites. The only one i dislike more than this is Jacked Up.
    This except riot is my least favorite. Tried jacked up when it first came out ~sept 2014 and hated it. Just got a new tub and I kinda like it now
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    Y'all are wild taking stim bombs from fly-by-night companies nobody's ever heard of like God of Rage and Red Plague.

    Some of the profiles on those are ridiculous. Wicked has what, 300mg caffeine, 70mg of DMAA, and 5g of Yohimbine? God of Rage has 300mg caffeine, 60mg DMAA, 75mg synephrine, and 3g yohimbine?

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    Originally Posted by AfroPope View Post
    Y'all are wild taking stim bombs from fly-by-night companies nobody's ever heard of like God of Rage and Red Plague.

    Some of the profiles on those are ridiculous. Wicked has what, 300mg caffeine, 70mg of DMAA, and 5g of Yohimbine? God of Rage has 300mg caffeine, 60mg DMAA, 75mg synephrine, and 3g yohimbine?

    F that S, man.
    Tho Centurion Labz is smaller I wouldn't call it "Fly by night" it's owned by Guy Cisternino as well started by Dr. Joe Kepko and Dr. Nick Puccio just FYI since I have bought a good bit of their products.

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    Oh great, a chiropractor and a family doctor from Jersey paid an IFBB pro to endorse their company so I guess "Centurion Labz" is actually legit now.

    Sorry I had to look those two guys up because they're nobodies and their products' profiles are trash - at least the ones that actually have listed profiles.

    Thanks for setting the record straight on what makes a company big and famous. Guess I'll put their pre-workout with 300mg caffeine, 60mg DMAA, 75mg synephrine, and 3g yohimbine in my body now since clearly they're a big legit company and that's clearly not just another stim bomb pre-workout made by nobodies.

    Or, you know. I could not do that thing.

    Y'all can do what you want, I just think it's wild when people see a profile like that and are like "yeah this seems smart."
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    Originally Posted by AfroPope View Post
    Oh great, a chiropractor and a family doctor from Jersey paid an IFBB pro to endorse their company so I guess "Centurion Labz" is actually legit now.

    Sorry I had to look those two guys up because they're nobodies and their products' profiles are trash - at least the ones that actually have listed profiles.

    Thanks for setting the record straight on what makes a company big and famous. Guess I'll put their pre-workout with 300mg caffeine, 60mg DMAA, 75mg synephrine, and 3g yohimbine in my body now since clearly they're a big legit company and that's clearly not just another stim bomb pre-workout made by nobodies.

    Or, you know. I could not do that thing.
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    Originally Posted by AfroPope View Post
    Oh great, a chiropractor and a family doctor from Jersey paid an IFBB pro to endorse their company so I guess "Centurion Labz" is actually legit now.

    Sorry I had to look those two guys up because they're nobodies and their products' profiles are trash - at least the ones that actually have listed profiles.

    Thanks for setting the record straight on what makes a company big and famous. Guess I'll put their pre-workout with 300mg caffeine, 60mg DMAA, 75mg synephrine, and 3g yohimbine in my body now since clearly they're a big legit company and that's clearly not just another stim bomb pre-workout made by nobodies.

    Or, you know. I could not do that thing.
    Lol this is a funny post but the truth is that these nobody companies come out with real deal preworkouts that actually work. And your response to a nobody preworkout that works is "just a stim bomb with a crappy profile" and yet all these "great" known preworkouts with amazing profiles in reality suck.
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    All of their products have a fully disclosed label's, I guess you should brush up on your detective skills.
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    Originally Posted by dougefresh93 View Post
    Should I put you down for a sample of SuperPump 250 when it comes back out?
    Sure.



    Originally Posted by xpin2winx View Post
    Lol this is a funny post but the truth is that these nobody companies come out with real deal preworkouts that actually work. And your response to a nobody preworkout that works is "just a stim bomb with a crappy profile" and yet all these "great" known preworkouts with amazing profiles in reality suck.
    The two things can both be true. Lots of nobody companies can have preworkouts that are just stim bombs with little else, and a lot of well-known preworkouts can also really suck. Both of those things are true! And small companies can have good preworkouts, too!

    Remember what happened the last time a little-known company had a preworkout that was WAY better than ANYTHING in its profile suggested it would be? It was a national Craze for a while but ultimately didn't work out so well.

    I dunno, I guess a big part of exercising and trying to take care of my body is caring about what goes into it and maybe I have a different approach to that than other people do, that's fine, that's okay, we don't have to agree!

    Originally Posted by Rob1882 View Post
    All of their products have a fully disclosed label's, I guess you should brush up on your detective skills.
    I didn't say they didn't. I said the ones that DO have labels available on their website - which is NOT all of them! - have crap profiles that are largely underdosed and/or unproven ingredients.

    I feel like a lot of y'all want my posts to have said something they didn't say and are arguing points I never made for the sake of getting mad online, so let me break it down for you again: I personally would not take a preworkout that was almost nothing but huge quantities of stims, especially from a company I had never heard of, especially in a completely unregulated industry, and it's wild to me that other people do. That's it. That's all I'm saying.
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