When do I do sprints? Before or during or after leg day?

[chrissidious]

Just wanted to know where is the best place for sprints in my workout?

[lucia316]

Depends on which is more important to you, speed work or strength work.

Would probably not do them together regardless of goals.

[chrissidious]

Depends on which is more important to you, speed work or strength work.

Would probably not do them together regardless of goals.

fat loss

[Knighthawk98]

if you are working on fat loss do legs after running, you will put more time and effort into the running and less into squatting, leg press, etc.... but if your main goal is losing fat then i wouldn't worry about doing legs as much as running...

[krakkerz]

Just wanted to know where is the best place for sprints in my workout?

Speed work prior to lifting, conditioning or fat loss training after - Always

[lucia316]

Speed work prior to lifting, conditioning or fat loss training after - Always

Actually, it really depends on one's goals...not Always.

[kingmode]

not during.

Depends on a lot of factors.

What sport do u play?
What split r u on?
How much time to train do u have?

[jjackson556]

I'd separate the sessions by 72 hours if possible. Legs and Sprints both burn fat but putting them together is not going to yield twice the results but it will affect your workouts later on in a negative way. Really you want as many good workout sessions as you can recover from and maintain a calorie deficit and you'll lose weight.

[krakkerz]

Actually, it really depends on one's goals...not Always.

No. Always.

If you have different goals, remove or reduce the amount of one. But, if you are doing speed work after lifting, you are both cheating yourself and risking injury unnecessarily. Conditioning work before lifting cheat your lifting unnecessarily.

The basic principles don't change - irrespective of goals.

[lucia316]

No. Always.

If you have different goals, remove or reduce the amount of one. But, if you are doing speed work after lifting, you are both cheating yourself and risking injury unnecessarily. Conditioning work before lifting cheat your lifting unnecessarily.

The basic principles don't change - irrespective of goals.

Yeah, you can keep just claiming it's so with zero to back it up, but goals do matter.

Example: Since fat loss is the goal, it totally doesn't matter. Since fat is lost via caloric deficit to TDEE and has zero to do with timing of your exercise, type of exercise or timing of your nutrients order doesn't matter.

[krakkerz]

Yeah, you can keep just claiming it's so with zero to back it up, but goals do matter.

Example: Since fat loss is the goal, it totally doesn't matter. Since fat is lost via caloric deficit to TDEE and has zero to do with timing of your exercise, type of exercise or timing of your nutrients order doesn't matter.

I have plenty of prior posts on this board explaining my outlook. I can back up everything I say - and I think I do.

The fact that you think this has anything to do with exercise timing for fat loss shows I didn't make myself cear. I'll explain again. Programming timing is about efficiency and safety. It ha nothing to do with TDEE, exercise or nutrient timing. On the latter, though, I'd suggest you take up some discussion with the like of John Berardi, who would disagree.

Workout order is about exercise complexity, intensity and nervous system activation. Exercise for fat loss generally require the lowest neural component. The higher intensity and complexity exercises belong at the beginning of the workout.

If conditioning or fat loss is a priority, this doesn't change. The prior exercises are either reduced or removed. If you are a trainer and program speed work, plyometrics or heavy lifting after conditioning or fat loss, you are cheating your client of gains in those areas, as well as increasing their chance of injury.

For more on this, read almost any modern textbook or training manual of the last few years. I especially recommend Triphasic Training, which explains the higher neural component exercise placement extremely well.

[lucia316]

Sigh. It's not my job to go and learn your perspective. You don't get to shirk your burden of proof by stating, "I've said it before."

You don't actually need to exercise for fat loss. If your goal is to create a caloric deficit, how, when and the order of training surely does not matter to the vast majority of people with that goal.

It doesn't change because it doesn't matter. If the goal is fat loss, it doesn't matter what you do because all exercise creates a greater caloric deficit. Fat is lost via caloric deficit, not how you train. Alan Aragon, Brad Schoenfeld and more continue to reconfirm that it doesn't matter for the vast majority of people.

Regardless, how one trains outside of their body comp goals, it depends on their other goals as to prioritization of training. To claim otherwise is a specious oversimplification regardless of complexity or intensity.

[krakkerz]

I had a big post here, but I don't want to waste energy arguing on the internet.

You win. Congratulations.

[lucia316]

I had a big post here, but I don't want to waste energy arguing on the internet.

You win. Congratulations.

LOL. Wasn't really an argument. You were simply overcomplicating things for someone and couldn't give a good reason as to why it was necessary to do so.

[somairalam]

Just wanted to know where is the best place for sprints in my workout?

For fatloss, after your weight training session.