**Official Road to the 2016 Mr Olympia Contest**

[bartosh]

apparently compton is competing soon (to get his olympia qualification?).

Looking forward to see if there's still hope

[Alito2013]

apparently compton is competing soon (to get his olympia qualification?).

Sacramento Pro 08/13
Arnold Asia 08/20

[lukamura]

Devils is right, he won't get shredded again. At 7 weeks out he should be looking crisp and basically close to show-ready. Comes show day he'll come flat and washed out due to the water-cutting bull**** his trainer prays. Somebody with scientific approach should coach this guy for once. 280lbs peeled Ramy would be far more impressive 300lbs semi-shredded.

I can bet any amount of money on that. It's the same **** every year.

[TropicalSunset]

you are out of your mind

Phil will win if he shows up like he always does, Ramy will win if he shows up like he never has, conditioned to the bone

See this to me is IFBB logic, or rather lack of it. Why does Ramy have to match Phil's conditioning and Phil doesn't have to match his size or width?

I honestly still think a decently conditioned Ramy should take the show this year. This conditioning over everything else logic is plain silly.

[lordlosh]

100% agree with TropicalSunset. This is not an show only about conditioning. Phixy narrow frame should be penalized, not to mention his messy, ugly midsection. Its about time to get big and wide champion. Saying that Ramy really need to come in very good condition. So far in his career he has never done that. He should start dialing a lot earlier then other pros. And they should already see and know that, he need more time to get ripped.
This will be his 4 Olympia and he already should know what he need to win it and that he can`t get his conditioning in time. So even if he sacrifice some mass he should start getting ripped earlier.
He can easy win the Olympia even at 275-280.
If he come in this Olympia yet again at not good condition, then that would be a huge disappointment to me and he need to change a lot of his team(not his coach, cause he know how to get his athlete at shape). This Badr is probably ******** him. But lets see at what shape he will come in Olympia.
But in this back pictures, he is very far from what he need to be. Thats being said he has a lot of time to get in the right condition to win the show.
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And BTW Roelly 7 weeks out:
http://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/...04790026_o.jpg
Crazy width there, never seen from "our" Champ .....

[batspoof]

See this to me is IFBB logic, or rather lack of it. Why does Ramy have to match Phil's conditioning and Phil doesn't have to match his size or width?

I honestly still think a decently conditioned Ramy should take the show this year. This conditioning over everything else logic is plain silly.

Dude, we all know phil heath is going to win his 6th Olympia, regardless of what he looks like. Anyone who doubts this should cast their mind back to the 2014 Olympia....

[Gorky88]

Dude, we all know phil heath is going to win his 6th Olympia, regardless of what he looks like. Anyone who doubts this should cast their mind back to the 2014 Olympia....

You know what is great, he had perfect scores both rounds hahaha

[lordlosh]

And to be fair on video he looks a lot worst.

[MrLagosMontana]

Looking at the above pictures, Kai's and Shawn's FDB flows beautifully. Phil's is just awkward and doesn't do him any justice.

Shawn has amazing legs as well, such deep cuts.

[Gorky88]

you are out of your mind

Phil will win if he shows up like he always does, Ramy will win if he shows up like he never has, conditioned to the bone

What the hell are you talking about? Do you even read?

Also, if Ramy is conditioned to the bone, we dont even need a contest, it would be the same as 2003 Olympia. He has 20-30 pounds on everyone. His Prague package would give a run for his money and I stand by it. That package already beat Shawn and Wolf and gave Dexter a hard time. He would win poses against Phil and out muscling him with better proportion and symmetry. He would be out conditioned and showing less detail. What the **** is wrong with that statement? It is a fact

[Alito2013]

[brendanh32]

Some crazy guys here .... Saying Ramy have weak back .... Ramy back is the best in the buisness right now. No one has better back then Ramy right now. He has the detail, the size and the width. He outmass and outwidth Phixy by a lot.

Raise your hand if you've laughed at this guy saying "phixy"

anyone?


no one?



okay.

[Big Slim DaDDy]

See this to me is IFBB logic, or rather lack of it. Why does Ramy have to match Phil's conditioning and Phil doesn't have to match his size or width?

This conditioning over everything else logic is plain silly.

So Lionel Beyeke should be praised and rewarded for his poor showings because he looked big. He should place above the guys he was bigger than in those shows. Just have everyone show up water bloated and big. Size over everything.




There is a lot more to it than conditioning versus size.

[BartPimpson]

Raise your hand if you've laughed at this guy saying "phixy"

TTimmerman came up with that sobriquet after the 2013 Olympia. Never forget!

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=157229023

So Lionel Beyeke should be praised and rewarded for his poor showings because he looked big. He should place above the guys he was bigger than in those shows. Just have everyone show up water bloated and big. Size over everything.

There is a lot more to it than conditioning versus size.

I think what annoys people is that it's inconsistent - sometimes the judges pick the conditioned guy, sometimes the bigger guy.

We're not talking about someone like Lionel who's wildly out of shape. If Ramy is slightly off, isn't it justifiable that his much greater size should still count for something?

[StelioK]

If Ramy comes with ok conditioning, not great, just ok, and phil wins it based on it, but that same logic, if flex wheeler competed in the open he should win over phil.

In any case, unless the judges make ramy win, they won't even put him in the top 3, he would make phil and dexter look ridiculous.

[TropicalSunset]

So Lionel Beyeke should be praised and rewarded for his poor showings because he looked big. He should place above the guys he was bigger than in those shows. Just have everyone show up water bloated and big. Size over everything.




There is a lot more to it than conditioning versus size.

Lionel had nowhere NEAR the size of Big Ramy. Ramy on the other hand has about 50 pound of muscle on Phil, while having less flaws. Like I keep harping on for the longest time, conditioning is only ONE of criteria, yet sometimes when it comes to deciding between two competitors, it seems to be the only criteria looked at.

TTimmerman came up with that sobriquet after the 2013 Olympia. Never forget!

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=157229023



I think what annoys people is that it's inconsistent - sometimes the judges pick the conditioned guy, sometimes the bigger guy.

We're not talking about someone like Lionel who's wildly out of shape. If Ramy is slightly off, isn't it justifiable that his much greater size should still count for something?

Exactly this. Size, when it comes with beautiful proportion, symmetry and flow like with Ramy, has to overwhelm someone who is just slightly better conditioned.

[Exane]

All the muscle in the world doesn't mean **** when you cant see it.

You guys keep saying the same stuff year after year, like don't you get tired of repeating yourselves? It doesn't matter if he is out sized or out width if the person doing the outsizing just flat out doesn't look as good. Ramy loses every back pose because of his conditioning and his proportions are completely ****ed because of his legs.


But at this point, who cares who wins? I mean everyone here keeps saying these contest are bogus, yet most here are already bitching about a contest that hasnt even happened yet. Can't we just want to see crazy physiques? And everyone up on that stage has flaws when you compare them to each other and everyone here has personal bias that dictates what flaws matter the most when it comes to their opinions. So just stop bitching about it and shoving your opinions up everyone's ass. This section has gone to **** because everyone is so damn bitchy

[Alito2013]

Remember my words Ramy TOP3 1-Phil 2-Dex 3-Ramy 4-Shawn 5-Roelly/Cedric/Josh.

[Alito2013]

[Gorky88]

TTimmerman came up with that sobriquet after the 2013 Olympia. Never forget!

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=157229023



I think what annoys people is that it's inconsistent - sometimes the judges pick the conditioned guy, sometimes the bigger guy.

We're not talking about someone like Lionel who's wildly out of shape. If Ramy is slightly off, isn't it justifiable that his much greater size should still count for something?

Dude, do not do this

[bartosh]

TTimmerman came up with that sobriquet after the 2013 Olympia. Never forget!

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=157229023



I think what annoys people is that it's inconsistent - sometimes the judges pick the conditioned guy, sometimes the bigger guy.

We're not talking about someone like Lionel who's wildly out of shape. If Ramy is slightly off, isn't it justifiable that his much greater size should still count for something?

my post on that first page

what's the point of having an olympia if there aren't comparisons? the competition should be called "runner up to mr o competition"

still firmly believe that there should be more thorough comparisons where the top 6 and top 3 should be compared. none of that sending back nonsense after half a rotation of poses.

[ROMMYromboid]

Raise your hand if you've laughed at this guy saying "phixy"

anyone?


no one?



okay.

I did

my post on that first page


still firmly believe that there should be more thorough comparisons where the top 6 and top 3 should be compared. none of that sending back nonsense after half a rotation of poses.

I think YOU are MISSING the POINT. The whole problem we have today is the judging, they do not use any logical structured formula to come up with why they picked one athlete over another. Comparisons are useless unless the person doing the comparing has a reliable, transparent benchmark to compare against.

Phixy's 2014 performance was a shocker, a book could have be written after the show entitled, 'How to win the Olympia when your 3 weeks out, have major flaws, no abs BUT still get a perfect score'

The judging has been eroding this sport for a good few years now, it has to stop.

[BartPimpson]

still firmly believe that there should be more thorough comparisons where the top 6 and top 3 should be compared. none of that sending back nonsense after half a rotation of poses.

I'm trying to remember. Wasn't 2011 the year they separated Phil and Jay from the rest lineup almost immediately? Gosh, I wonder who 1 and 2 are going to be.

And didn't the same thing happen with Phil and Kai the year after? Wow, way to keep us in suspense.

I would have loved to see Phil compared with Ramy, for example. I mean, you can basically call most of the placings in advance but why can't they at least some more varied comparisons?

[bartosh]

I'm trying to remember. Wasn't 2011 the year they separated Phil and Jay from the rest lineup almost immediately? Gosh, I wonder who 1 and 2 are going to be.

And didn't the same thing happen with Phil and Kai the year after? Wow, way to keep us in suspense.

I would have loved to see Phil compared with Ramy, for example. I mean, you can basically call most of the placings in advance but why can't they at least some more varied comparisons?

Yeah but I think 2013 was the year they sent just Phil back then compared 2-6. Or another year but I distinctly remember it happening

And exactly. I don't care what the placings are since 2012. i just want some good comparisons. Hell. Compare the top 12 and lemme see how the 10th place dude stacks against spots 3-6. Make it last 10 min longer. Forget the placings. Make longer comparisons and I'll take it.

[unique1]

Phil will lose the title this year....


Here's why... Pro Bodybuilding is a business, and this business is on the decline. Phil's popularity is at an all time low. They will dump Phil this year, because he's no longer good for business.

The irony is... this time he will lose, even if he happens to be the best guy onstage. ha ha

[Gorky88]

my post on that first page


still firmly believe that there should be more thorough comparisons where the top 6 and top 3 should be compared. none of that sending back nonsense after half a rotation of poses.

There is less and less comparisons each year. They will never do that since it would make "some people" look bad in comparisons.

In my opinion, even the tenth guy should be compared to top 3.

Main event is mr olympia and it should be treated as such!

[lordlosh]

[QUOTE=Exane;1456222453]All the muscle in the world doesn't mean **** when you cant see it.

You guys keep saying the same stuff year after year, like don't you get tired of repeating yourselves? It doesn't matter if he is out sized or out width if the person doing the outsizing just flat out doesn't look as good. Ramy loses every back pose because of his conditioning and his proportions are completely ****ed because of his legs.

BC Phixy boy. All the condition on the world doesn`t mean **** when you are small and narrow .... And you look silly .... I better get big then small and conditioned ....
And we are talking about really small diference in conditioning, while in size and width Ramy dwarf ALL, not just Phixy.
And to say Ramy proportions are fu****** because of his legs, o dude you need help.
Best legs in the buisness and legs cant f***** your physique. And im wondering why in the blue hell didnt you say about Phxy narrownes and how hes arms hanging from his small frame, isn`t that unbalance and look ugly as hell ? About hes 2 abs at best?
Im not hear you ....
I don`t care who win, just want to be the best man on stage. And judging is BC. In the praga they put choice Ramy over Shawn, and Dexter over Ramy, because ??? No one knows. If they look at the condition, then Ramy should be 3rd, if they was looking at the size and width, Ramy go to be first there ....
Not to mention how the* f**** Rhoden who to me looks beasty there and was better then Dexter big time.
Im tired of small guys winning the show. I hope Ramy or even Roelly comes at perfect shape of their life with good condition and see when they gift Phixy and how some guys will justify it after that ....

[spamy]

Phil will lose the title this year....


Here's why... Pro Bodybuilding is a business, and this business is on the decline. Phil's popularity is at an all time low. They will dump Phil this year, because he's no longer good for business.

The irony is... this time he will lose, even if he happens to be the best guy onstage. ha ha

No, Phil won't lose this year. But pro bodybuilding is a business indeed, that's why they've brought to the mix a 50+ man to revive an otherwise dull show with boring competitors and some of them are missing this year.

[MesoPeaks]

I believe Phil will get dethroned at some point of his career....just like what happened to Ronnie, Dex, and Jay.

it's tough to win 6 or 7 in a row, let alone 9 or 10...Phil is no Ronnie Coleman. His body is maxing out....already...that's why you will never see him 260 shredded on stage.. ever...

One way or another, some guy will take the spot from Phil.


#cantwaitfortheOlympia

LOL

[batspoof]

I believe Phil will get dethroned at some point of his career....just like what happened to Ronnie, Dex, and Jay.

it's tough to win 6 or 7 in a row, let alone 9 or 10...Phil is no Ronnie Coleman. His body is maxing out....already...that's why you will never see him 260 shredded on stage.. ever...

One way or another, some guy will take the spot from Phil.


#cantwaitfortheOlympia

LOL

From the front, Roelly is going to obliterate Phil in ways you could never dream of, but his back is the problem...he will lose every back pose against Phil. Roelly just has genetically inferior lats which prevents him building an Olympia-worthy back.