My peeps are pissed at me because I support Trump WTF?

[Karl_Hungus]

Maybe he is Tom. Wouldn't that be refreshing. Lets not get it twisted though; he came from a wealthy family and was given his shot. He didn't "earn it" other than being born into it. Some might say "well hes done a lot with it" and I'd agree but money makes money. I'd say the same for his kids as well as Chelsea Clinton, who out of college took her first job paying 900k a year I hardly blame any of them for wanting to see their kids succeed but by doing that they take away their right to act like the are self made. Just my .02.

He has had some successes and failures, but overall he has legitimately done well. I get what you are saying though. His daughter Ivanka is a perfect example of this. She actually wrote a book outlining how to "win at work and life"...and she apparently acquired all of this knowledge about life at the grand old age of 28...lmao. And her success in the workplace? Apparently, it didn't occur to her that a billionaire father + strong nepotism is pretty effective insulation against unpleasant careers in the fast food industry.

[dbx]

Here is my son.

And btw, that pic doesn't show how big your forearms are. He has small wrists, but his arms are off the hook.

[Brackneyc]

Its hard to just say Fck em when these are my peeps that I know will ride and die for me, ya feel me?
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I know. I was trying to be brief.

In reality though, I am shocked that they are so concerned about it.

[dbx]

I know. I was trying to be brief.

In reality though, I am shocked that they are so concerned about it.

Cool thing is? John is learning about politics. He will always be his own man....so I'm waiting to see another thread about how he beats the crap out of a friend in the hood, JUST because he gets called on liking Trump. John is like...20 times smarter than people think here.

[Brackneyc]

He has had some successes and failures, but overall he has legitimately done well. I get what you are saying though. His daughter Ivanka is a perfect example of this. She actually wrote a book outlining how to "win at work and life"...and she apparently acquired all of this knowledge about life at the grand old age of 28...lmao. And her success in the workplace? Apparently, it didn't occur to her that a billionaire father + strong nepotism is pretty effective insulation against unpleasant careers in the fast food industry.

Even given that she had a lot of advantages, she speaks better from the podium than HC by a long shot. DT oldest son speaks better than the senior Trump imo.

[Corbi]

He will never be president.

And talking heads who supposedly know all about politics and polling have gotten it wrong for the past year. He won't win a state, he won't reach the number of delegates, he will never be the nominee, etc. Even your President stated much of the above and they all have been proven wrong over and over.

[bodyhard]

You need to work on your arms, lmfao!

Seriously? Damn I better start now

And btw, that pic doesn't show how big your forearms are. He has small wrists, but his arms are off the hook.

Thanks for the props DBX, I know you keep sh!t real and I truly appreciate your candor.

I know. I was trying to be brief.

In reality though, I am shocked that they are so concerned about it.

They aren't concerned, they just get upset that I like Trump because in their eyes I shouldn't..

Cool thing is? John is learning about politics. He will always be his own man....so I'm waiting to see another thread about how he beats the crap out of a friend in the hood, JUST because he gets called on liking Trump. John is like...20 times smarter than people think here.

DBX you are going to give me a bad rep around here man

[dbx]

Seriously? Damn I better start now

Yeah, you need to work on that, lmao.

Thanks for the props DBX, I know you keep sh!t real and I truly appreciate your candor.

The props were EARNED by you. Bad-a$$ mthr fckr. It was truly a great time....damn!

they aren't concerned, they just get upset that I like Trump because in their eyes I shouldn't..

Again, fck em all! Be yourself, as always.

DBX you are going to give me a bad rep around here man

I know, I know....but truth is that you are "all that". I didn't really have doubts, but I suppose I had a few (makes no sense, lol). You and Geoff are the coolest mo-fos I've hung with in a many years. I'm starting to wonder why our parents didn't tell us that we're brothers.

[JerryB]

You are missing my point though Jerry, all I am asking them is why are they upset at me for liking a person when I am NOT upset at them for voting for a person I don't care for?

Thanks for the clarification.

[JerryB]

And talking heads who supposedly know all about politics and polling have gotten it wrong for the past year. He won't win a state, he won't reach the number of delegates, he will never be the nominee, etc. Even your President stated much of the above and they all have been proven wrong over and over.

If the 2016 election repeats as the 2012 election, Trump will not be the next president. Minority voters, who overwhelmingly dislike Trump, will ensure Trump is not elected president.
In 2012 the minority for Obama exceeded the white vote for Romney over Obama. Minority votes more than offset the 16.3 million white votes for Romney over the White votes for Obama. The total minority vote for Obama was 31.8 million. Plus Trump is not well liked by female voters. Also the Black, Hispanic, and Asian favorable rates range from 62% to 72% for Hilary Clinton.

[TexasMajor]

If the 2016 election repeats as the 2012 election, Trump will not be the next president. Minority voters, who overwhelmingly dislike Trump, will ensure Trump is not elected president.
In 2012 the minority for Obama exceeded the white vote for Romney over Obama. Minority votes more than offset the 16.3 million white votes for Romney over the White votes for Obama. The total minority vote for Obama was 31.8 million. Plus Trump is not well liked by female voters. Also the Black, Hispanic, and Asian favorable rates range from 62% to 72% for Hilary Clinton.

On November 6, 2012, 3.2 million fewer Americans voted for Mitt Romney than President Obama. 61.8 million Americans voted for Obama, while only 58.6 million voted for Romney.

333,000 Votes in 4 Swing States Would Have Given Romney the Presidency

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/by...rticle/2528730

In 2012, President Obama famously won 71 percent of the Hispanic vote to Mitt Romney's 27 percent. If all other factors remained the same, how large a percentage of the Hispanic vote would Romney have had to win to capture the White House?

What if Romney had won 44 percent of the Hispanic vote, the high-water mark for Republicans achieved by George W. Bush in 2004? As it turns out, if Romney had hit that Bush mark, he still would have lost, with 240 electoral votes to 298 for Obama.

But what if Romney had been able to make history and attract 50 percent of Hispanic voters? What then? He still would have been beaten, 283 electoral votes to 255.

What if Romney had been able to do something absolutely astonishing for a Republican and win 60 percent of the Hispanic vote? He would have lost by the same margin, 283 electoral votes to 255.

But what if Romney had been able to reach a mind-blowing 70 percent of the Hispanic vote? Surely that would have meant victory, right? No, it wouldn't. Romney still would have lost, although by the narrowest of electoral margins, 270 to 268. (Under that scenario, Romney would have won the popular vote but lost in the Electoral College; he could have racked up huge numbers of Hispanic votes in California, New York and Texas, for example, and not changed the results in those states.)

According to the Times' calculator, Romney would have had to win 73 percent of the Hispanic vote to prevail in 2012. Which suggests that Romney, and Republicans, had bigger problems than Hispanic voters.

The most serious of those problems was that Romney was not able to connect with white voters who were so turned off by the campaign that they abandoned the GOP and in many cases stayed away from the polls altogether. Recent reports suggest as many as 5 million white voters simply stayed home on Election Day. If they had voted at the same rate they did in 2004, even with the demographic changes since then, Romney would have won.

Likewise, the white vote is so large that an improvement of 4 points -- going from 60 percent to 64 percent of those whites who did vote -- would have won the race for Romney.

[LovinLife2014]

You are right Jerry, he never will be president. Makes me wonder why so many on the left are acting just like the people they claim to hate. Seems odd to me.

It suggests to me they are no more open minded, no more tolerant and most assuredly no smarter than those they claim to hate.

Right. Hypocrisy among liberals is out of control.

"Hating the hater" is how they rationalize it.

The problem with a lot of liberals, and I say this as somebody who voted for Obama twice, is they don't think tolerance applies to them.

It is only straight, white men who need to check themselves.

[bodyhard]

On November 6, 2012, 3.2 million fewer Americans voted for Mitt Romney than President Obama. 61.8 million Americans voted for Obama, while only 58.6 million voted for Romney.

333,000 Votes in 4 Swing States Would Have Given Romney the Presidency

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/by...rticle/2528730

In 2012, President Obama famously won 71 percent of the Hispanic vote to Mitt Romney's 27 percent. If all other factors remained the same, how large a percentage of the Hispanic vote would Romney have had to win to capture the White House?

What if Romney had won 44 percent of the Hispanic vote, the high-water mark for Republicans achieved by George W. Bush in 2004? As it turns out, if Romney had hit that Bush mark, he still would have lost, with 240 electoral votes to 298 for Obama.

But what if Romney had been able to make history and attract 50 percent of Hispanic voters? What then? He still would have been beaten, 283 electoral votes to 255.

What if Romney had been able to do something absolutely astonishing for a Republican and win 60 percent of the Hispanic vote? He would have lost by the same margin, 283 electoral votes to 255.

But what if Romney had been able to reach a mind-blowing 70 percent of the Hispanic vote? Surely that would have meant victory, right? No, it wouldn't. Romney still would have lost, although by the narrowest of electoral margins, 270 to 268. (Under that scenario, Romney would have won the popular vote but lost in the Electoral College; he could have racked up huge numbers of Hispanic votes in California, New York and Texas, for example, and not changed the results in those states.)

According to the Times' calculator, Romney would have had to win 73 percent of the Hispanic vote to prevail in 2012. Which suggests that Romney, and Republicans, had bigger problems than Hispanic voters.

The most serious of those problems was that Romney was not able to connect with white voters who were so turned off by the campaign that they abandoned the GOP and in many cases stayed away from the polls altogether. Recent reports suggest as many as 5 million white voters simply stayed home on Election Day. If they had voted at the same rate they did in 2004, even with the demographic changes since then, Romney would have won.

Likewise, the white vote is so large that an improvement of 4 points -- going from 60 percent to 64 percent of those whites who did vote -- would have won the race for Romney.

I never read anything when someone post that much f'cking writing on a certain subject, but for some reason I read yours and I have to admit that was some interesting numbers, not sure if they are fact, but interesting nonetheless.

[JerryB]

this. most of my friends are black, and you wouldnt believe the reaction they first had when I said I liked Trump.

brb thought you were one of us

brb he isnt even a politician

brb we think he is rascist and since you support him you might be a little bit racist, even though we've known you for years.


Just continue to speak facts OP. Not sure who you will vote for, but my friends have slowly distanced themselves from MSNBC/CNN and are now at least TRYING to see things from the otherside. They like that he is pro American, but Hillary is like water to their friends and families for some reason

I do not think Trump is a racist. I think he is just not required to be President. It's denial or credulity for those who cannot see the obvious. So why waste my time arguing.

[Corbi]

If the 2016 election repeats as the 2012 election, Trump will not be the next president. Minority voters, who overwhelmingly dislike Trump, will ensure Trump is not elected president.
In 2012 the minority for Obama exceeded the white vote for Romney over Obama. Minority votes more than offset the 16.3 million white votes for Romney over the White votes for Obama. The total minority vote for Obama was 31.8 million. Plus Trump is not well liked by female voters. Also the Black, Hispanic, and Asian favorable rates range from 62% to 72% for Hilary Clinton.

Thanks for proving my point, the talking heads have been rolling out charts and graphs and polls since Trump entered the race, and in every case they never gave him a snowballs chance in hell yet look what happened.

Hildebeast only had 1 opponent to deal with and if it weren't for the rigged Deomcratic system with their ridiculous Super Delegates, a crazy assed 74 yr old could have/should have beat her. Whereas Trump had a massive crowd of opponents he had to whittle down.

[Brackneyc]

Thanks for proving my point, the talking heads have been rolling out charts and graphs and polls since Trump entered the race, and in every case they never gave him a snowballs chance in hell yet look what happened.

Hildebeast only had 1 opponent to deal with and if it weren't for the rigged Deomcratic system with their ridiculous Super Delegates, a crazy assed 74 yr old could have/should have beat her. Whereas Trump had a massive crowd of opponents he had to whittle down.

She has put in her time, it is her turn. BS was a placeholder to give the appearance of an opponent in the race. Omalley had ax much chance as BS. BS was more fun to joke about in SNL.

[JerryB]

On November 6, 2012, 3.2 million fewer Americans voted for Mitt Romney than President Obama. 61.8 million Americans voted for Obama, while only 58.6 million voted for Romney.

333,000 Votes in 4 Swing States Would Have Given Romney the Presidency

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/by...rticle/2528730

In 2012, President Obama famously won 71 percent of the Hispanic vote to Mitt Romney's 27 percent. If all other factors remained the same, how large a percentage of the Hispanic vote would Romney have had to win to capture the White House?

What if Romney had won 44 percent of the Hispanic vote, the high-water mark for Republicans achieved by George W. Bush in 2004? As it turns out, if Romney had hit that Bush mark, he still would have lost, with 240 electoral votes to 298 for Obama.

But what if Romney had been able to make history and attract 50 percent of Hispanic voters? What then? He still would have been beaten, 283 electoral votes to 255.

What if Romney had been able to do something absolutely astonishing for a Republican and win 60 percent of the Hispanic vote? He would have lost by the same margin, 283 electoral votes to 255.

But what if Romney had been able to reach a mind-blowing 70 percent of the Hispanic vote? Surely that would have meant victory, right? No, it wouldn't. Romney still would have lost, although by the narrowest of electoral margins, 270 to 268. (Under that scenario, Romney would have won the popular vote but lost in the Electoral College; he could have racked up huge numbers of Hispanic votes in California, New York and Texas, for example, and not changed the results in those states.)

According to the Times' calculator, Romney would have had to win 73 percent of the Hispanic vote to prevail in 2012. Which suggests that Romney, and Republicans, had bigger problems than Hispanic voters.

The most serious of those problems was that Romney was not able to connect with white voters who were so turned off by the campaign that they abandoned the GOP and in many cases stayed away from the polls altogether. Recent reports suggest as many as 5 million white voters simply stayed home on Election Day. If they had voted at the same rate they did in 2004, even with the demographic changes since then, Romney would have won.

Likewise, the white vote is so large that an improvement of 4 points -- going from 60 percent to 64 percent of those whites who did vote -- would have won the race for Romney.

Would have is meaningless. Trump will do worse than Romney.

[JerryB]

Thanks for proving my point, the talking heads have been rolling out charts and graphs and polls since Trump entered the race, and in every case they never gave him a snowballs chance in hell yet look what happened.

Hildebeast only had 1 opponent to deal with and if it weren't for the rigged Deomcratic system with their ridiculous Super Delegates, a crazy assed 74 yr old could have/should have beat her. Whereas Trump had a massive crowd of opponents he had to whittle down.

It appears your only talking point is name calling and lack evidence to back your comments. Take care.

[Karl_Hungus]

If the 2016 election repeats as the 2012 election, Trump will not be the next president. Minority voters, who overwhelmingly dislike Trump, will ensure Trump is not elected president.
In 2012 the minority for Obama exceeded the white vote for Romney over Obama. Minority votes more than offset the 16.3 million white votes for Romney over the White votes for Obama. The total minority vote for Obama was 31.8 million. Plus Trump is not well liked by female voters. Also the Black, Hispanic, and Asian favorable rates range from 62% to 72% for Hilary Clinton.

This probably explains why so many Democrats organize their campaigns around identity politics -- so they can win elections and then forget about minorities until they need to win another election. It is a neat system.

I do not think Trump is a racist. I think he is just not required to be President.

That is a weird thing to say. Required? Is anybody REQUIRED to be president?

So why waste my time arguing.

I dunno. You are on here arguing, so you tell me?

[so-tex]

LOL, sounds good. I'm telling you, Uber is awesome. No way would I have put any of us in jeopardy of getting in trouble.....aside from freelancing at the bar, lmao.

You're welcome.

[TexasMajor]

Would have is meaningless. Trump will do worse than Romney.

Based on what? Seems like youre just posting your baseless emotions. Trump has already broken all voting turnout records for the primaries and will do the same for the general. The only reason Romney lost was because he couldn't motivate people to get out of their house and vote.

2012 GOP TURNOUT (which were all records btw) vs 2016 GOP TURNOUT

2012 Iowa: 121,000
2016 Iowa: 186,000

2012 New Hampshire: 248,000
2016 New Hampshire: 284,000

2012 South Carolina: 603,000
2016 South Carolina: 738,000

2012 Nevada: 33,000
2016 Nevada: 75,000

[Corbi]

Based on what? Seems like youre just posting your baseless emotions. Trump has already broken all voting turnout records for the primaries and will do the same for the general. The only reason Romney lost was because he couldn't motivate people to get out of their house and vote.

2012 GOP TURNOUT (which were all records btw) vs 2016 GOP TURNOUT

2012 Iowa: 121,000
2016 Iowa: 186,000

2012 New Hampshire: 248,000
2016 New Hampshire: 284,000

2012 South Carolina: 603,000
2016 South Carolina: 738,000

2012 Nevada: 33,000
2016 Nevada: 75,000

Sucks when someone brings "facts" into a debate.

[dbx]

Sucks when someone brings "facts" into a debate.

Greg, you know you and I have never had a "beef". Real deal here. I will just forewarn you that when you see it posted here that we're going to come to WI, I would decide to take a vacation....out of state. I'm not joking.

[Corbi]

Greg, you know you and I have never had a "beef". Real deal here. I will just forewarn you that when you see it posted here that we're going to come to WI, I would decide to take a vacation....out of state. I'm not joking.

I ain't scared of old white men.

[dbx]

I ain't scared of old white men.

LMAO! But BH is Puerto Rican! And whatever you did to piss him off....he's not forgetting it. This guy is a real bull. I know, silly to even talk about, but you deserve a warning. I even tried to tell him "Hey, it's just the net", but he was like, "No, this guy won't stand for 2 minutes in front of me." I'm a peacemaker, not an instigator. I really don't think it's cool that he feels this way....but he's serious as hell. I've mended many fences here, as well as in personal life. BH hasn't reached that point in his life, yet.

[Corbi]

LMAO! But BH is Puerto Rican! And whatever you did to piss him off....he's not forgetting it. This guy is a real bull. I know, silly to even talk about, but you deserve a warning. I even tried to tell him "Hey, it's just the net", but he was like, "No, this guy won't stand for 2 minutes in front of me." I'm a peacemaker, not an instigator. I really don't think it's cool that he feels this way....but he's serious as hell. I've mended many fences here, as well as in personal life. BH hasn't reached that point in his life, yet.

No issue with you at all but the rest is worthy of a yawn.

[dbx]

No issue with you at all but the rest is worthy of a yawn.

Yep, we're both good (strange alliances on here, lol), but don't underestimate BH. I was seriously taken aback at his hate for you. Silly BS, for sure.

[Corbi]

Yep, we're both good (strange alliances on here, lol), but don't underestimate BH. I was seriously taken aback at his hate for you. Silly BS, for sure.

He needs to get a grip on life then, words on a screen and yet he claims he never gets upset over them...weird. Funny how he can hate people he has never met, but whatever as I have no hate for him/ I just find it odd and a bit disturbing that he feels some odd obsession with coming here and laying out every little aspect of his life. Some things should be kept private and not pasted all over the web.

[dbx]

I should never have said anything about this. I just know that you guys would end up friends if you ever met...in the end.

[dbx]

He needs to get a grip on life then, words on a screen and yet he claims he never gets upset over them...weird. Funny how he can hate people he has never met, but whatever as I have no hate for him/ I just find it odd and a bit disturbing that he feels some odd obsession with coming here and laying out every little aspect of his life. Some things should be kept private and not pasted all over the web.

LOL. I've had the privilege of knowing BH and speaking frankly with him for almost 10yrs. Yes, I even refer to him as a "post whore", but he is who he is...and he's very fcking real! Everything he posts? Real...no $hit...and I've always known it. This guy is no "keyboard warrior", he's the real freaking deal.