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    Whey protein in milk before bed

    What are your thoughts on having a glass of milk with a scoop of whey before bed? The calories fit my macros, so there's no issue there. Just want that ideal protein blend to help me maintain muscle while leaning out.
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    My thoughts? Peanut Butter and Jelly sounds better.
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    I try not to keep peanut butter around. I will very easily eat over half the jar in one sitting.
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    You may gain weight if you do so for sure you gonna have constipation, drink soya milk, it has basically the smae nutritive value of your mix less cholesterol and fat.That both are contained in milk.
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    Originally Posted by JSKopp View Post
    I try not to keep peanut butter around. I will very easily eat over half the jar in one sitting.
    Portion control.
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    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    Portion control.
    with peanut butter ? is that french ?
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    Originally Posted by JSKopp View Post
    What are your thoughts on having a glass of milk with a scoop of whey before bed? The calories fit my macros, so there's no issue there. Just want that ideal protein blend to help me maintain muscle while leaning out.
    you really wont lose muscle just because you didnt have protein before bed. biggest factor is your training while you are trying to maintain muscle. dont stress it that much . drink if you like , nothing will happen if you dont. your body is not hunting for tissue 7/24
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    Originally Posted by JSKopp View Post
    What are your thoughts on having a glass of milk with a scoop of whey before bed? The calories fit my macros, so there's no issue there. Just want that ideal protein blend to help me maintain muscle while leaning out.
    Try natural foods, its better and cheaper. if not though, casein protein powder is best before bed.
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    Originally Posted by JSKopp View Post
    What are your thoughts on having a glass of milk with a scoop of whey before bed? The calories fit my macros, so there's no issue there. Just want that ideal protein blend to help me maintain muscle while leaning out.
    OP, if you want a protein shake before bed with milk, go for it since you said it fits your macros. It will not make you gain weight assuming it does fit in your macros. Make sure you're hitting your protein needs over the course of the day. Also, you're not going to lose muscle overnight if you don't drink protein right before.

    At least .8g of protein per pound of body weight and try to spread it over 4-5 meals.
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    like many people said, it is fine as long as it fits your macros. You dont HAVE to drink one before bed. However, I do drink it sometime if i fail to meet my macro and its a treat for me since I love drinking milk. Milk + cookie and cream = heaven.
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    Thank you everyone for your input. Good to know as long as I'm meeting my protein needs during the day, it won't make much difference.
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    Cottage cheese with 1tbsp peanut butter ( slow absorbed protein and fats to further slow the procedure) best before bed.
    Casein protein peanut butter with milk blend.
    Generally protein+fat is good , i prefer 70g oats with milk 2 scoops of casein in it and 1 tbsp PB ( its roughly 700 calories of slow digestive carbs + protein +fats ) 1 hour before bed .
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    Originally Posted by GetSomeHate View Post
    Cottage cheese with 1tbsp peanut butter ( slow absorbed protein and fats to further slow the procedure) best before bed.
    Casein protein peanut butter with milk blend.
    Generally protein+fat is good , i prefer 70g oats with milk 2 scoops of casein in it and 1 tbsp PB ( its roughly 700 calories of slow digestive carbs + protein +fats ) 1 hour before bed .
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    i dont get your point , probably you didnt get mine either.
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    Originally Posted by JSKopp View Post
    Thank you everyone for your input. Good to know as long as I'm meeting my protein needs during the day, it won't make much difference.
    What would lead you to believe it would make a difference granted calories and macros are in check?
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    It really depends on you.
    Personally, I can take only Whey Isolate, if I do take Whey (not isolate) I have gas in night. I also tried to take Whey + Milk together and it was giving me costipation on the day after, why I don't know.
    I found "Ricotta Cheese" a wonderful replacement. Very cheap, tasteless so you can make a salted or sweet snack. I take around 100/150 gr. before bed (30-40 minutes). Just be careful on calories intake, 100gr of Ricotta goes over 200 CAL but it's one of the best source for protein like Cottage Cheese (I live in Turkey and here we do not have Cottage Cheese)

    Anyway, the problem with Whey Isolate is that after 30 minutes they start to be digested while in night you need a long term protein like Casein. So if you plan to play with Nutrients you will end up like me with 2 kinds, one for post-workout and one for night, which is going to be expensive. As many suggest, try to slowly replace on your diet Whey with real food
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    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    Portion control.
    Lol the irony of that coming from you, portion control really? Only joking, love your challenges.
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    Originally Posted by JSKopp View Post
    What are your thoughts on having a glass of milk with a scoop of whey before bed? The calories fit my macros, so there's no issue there. Just want that ideal protein blend to help me maintain muscle while leaning out.
    Do it often myself. Its tasty and easy.
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    2016 and there are still people talking about protein timing and protein absorption time? Lmao
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    2016 and there are still people talking about protein timing and protein absorption time? Lmao
    Based on the bros at my gym bring whey tubs in prior to a workout, they do, but I think this thread is just about the macros.
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    Lol the irony of that coming from you, portion control really? Only joking, love your challenges.
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    I'm new and don't know how to start a new thread so I had a question.

    I am wanting to buy BCAA. I went onto myprotein and there are so many different types with different ratio's like 2:1:1 Leucine, valine, isoleucine and 4:1:1 of the same amino acids.

    My question is which one is best? The one with 2 or 4? I wanting to gain muscle without the addition of unwanted body fat.


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    Originally Posted by bodylikeRonaldo View Post
    I'm new and don't know how to start a new thread so I had a question.

    I am wanting to buy BCAA. I went onto myprotein and there are so many different types with different ratio's like 2:1:1 Leucine, valine, isoleucine and 4:1:1 of the same amino acids.

    My question is which one is best? The one with 2 or 4? I wanting to gain muscle without the addition of unwanted body fat.


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    You're 16, you don't need supplements especially bcaa's. Just eat normal food.
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    Originally Posted by GetSomeHate View Post
    Cottage cheese with 1tbsp peanut butter ( slow absorbed protein and fats to further slow the procedure) best before bed.
    Casein protein peanut butter with milk blend.
    Generally protein+fat is good , i prefer 70g oats with milk 2 scoops of casein in it and 1 tbsp PB ( its roughly 700 calories of slow digestive carbs + protein +fats ) 1 hour before bed .
    Cottage cheese with a nut butter is way to go. Cottage cheese contains that slow digesting casein protein and is a while food source
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    Originally Posted by bodylikeRonaldo View Post
    I'm new and don't know how to start a new thread so I had a question.

    I am wanting to buy BCAA. I went onto myprotein and there are so many different types with different ratio's like 2:1:1 Leucine, valine, isoleucine and 4:1:1 of the same amino acids.

    My question is which one is best? The one with 2 or 4? I wanting to gain muscle without the addition of unwanted body fat.


    Pls help, majorly struggling.
    Thanks guys
    The bolded has nothing to do with BCAA intake and everything to do with how many calories you take in daily.

    You will add adipose tissue during a bulking phase, that's just how it is. You can minimize fat gain by keeping a relatively small surplus. As a relatively untrained youth you are in a great position to add muscle so a calorie surplus of 500 calories per day would be optimal. If progress is relatively slow then bump is up to say 700 calories over your maintenance. Total calories and meeting minimum protein requirements are essential for both bulking and cutting, supplementing BCAAs are not essential for anything and will not help muscle gain for you.
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    Even if you consume enough protein during the day muscle protein balance typically goes negative overnight. Having protein before bed helps to keep MPB positive for longer. This means gaining and retaining more muscle.

    Any meal or snack that contains enough quality protein will work. A bowl of (greek) yogurt with cereal is a good choice. A casein shake will also work well.

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    The bolded has nothing to do with BCAA intake and everything to do with how many calories you take in daily.

    You will add adipose tissue during a bulking phase, that's just how it is. You can minimize fat gain by keeping a relatively small surplus. As a relatively untrained youth you are in a great position to add muscle so a calorie surplus of 500 calories per day would be optimal. If progress is relatively slow then bump is up to say 700 calories over your maintenance. Total calories and meeting minimum protein requirements are essential for both bulking and cutting, supplementing BCAAs are not essential for anything and will not help muscle gain for you.
    So why do people take BCAA's then? Are they pointless then or...? Because I can get/afford them no problem it's just seeing if it will make a difference or not ? pls explain.

    I also saw a vid where a guy takes gatorade during his workout. I am british and it can be hard where I live to get that so is Lucozade sport an ok replacement? He mixes gatorade in with his BCAA and he is BIG!

    Laslty, he also mixes in nitraflex with all of that. I read though that it makes so many people breathless and I can be considered to have Asthma so not ideal for me. I saw this thing as a replacement called GAT PMP. Is this ok? It's from the same company so I don't know if the same side effects will be there or not? What do you think? Or any other replacements you know off?

    What supplements you take?



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    So why do people take BCAA's then? Are they pointless then or...? Because I can get/afford them no problem it's just seeing if it will make a difference or not ? pls explain.

    I also saw a vid where a guy takes gatorade during his workout. I am british and it can be hard where I live to get that so is Lucozade sport an ok replacement? He mixes gatorade in with his BCAA and he is BIG!

    Laslty, he also mixes in nitraflex with all of that. I read though that it makes so many people breathless and I can be considered to have Asthma so not ideal for me. I saw this thing as a replacement called GAT PMP. Is this ok? It's from the same company so I don't know if the same side effects will be there or not? What do you think? Or any other replacements you know off?

    What supplements you take?



    Thanks so much for your reply and time bud. Really appreciate it!!!!!

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    BCAAs are largely marketing hype and only beneficial to a small portion of persons, aka endurance athletes, athletes who train multiple times a day, and those engaging in starvation practices. There is positive data on BCAA supplementation however you're spending money on something that may help body composition to a small degree. Adequate protein intake basically devalues the use of BCAA supplementation, you're amino acid pool will typically be full and nitrogen balance positive. Your money would be better spent on food, protein powder, creatine, fish oil, or something else that can more positively effect health and/or muscle gain. Remember, there's nothing legal that works to a great degree, period.

    A random guy on youtube has no relevance to what you do. People don't get big by using supplements, they get big by years of training and use of scheduled drugs. My training style (currently) is filled with drop sets, endurance work, and quite a bit of cardio so i utilize Gatorade or Powerade intraworkout. During a typical weightlifting bout i don't use anything intraworkout except for water. There's really no need to take in carbs intra workout unless your pre workout nutrition is severely deficient. That or you train at a very high level.

    I don't know what supplement you're referring to but it's likely garbage.

    The supplements i use are tailored to my needs and likely not useful information for you. I can say though that most supplements are not needed and just a waste of money. The things i keep on hand at all times: protein, fish oil, cissus, whatever pre workout i have stocked.
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