In that range with good form bench press is perfectly safe.
The problem is there aren't many men benching who can resist the allure of a 1RM which is why I favor dumbbells and machines to build the chest.
And if you're not being spotted then incline DB press for example doesn't start with an eccentric. You should be able to press those DBs off your pecs and if you can't then they're too heavy. Machines (outside of the smith machine) will start from the bottom as well. I think this is safer than lowering a heavy bar.
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04-15-2023, 10:23 PM #6931
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04-16-2023, 08:59 AM #6932
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04-17-2023, 08:31 AM #6933
If you're in your prime go for it. If you're getting on in years then evaluate risk vs. reward.
My 2 cents is there is definitely a look from heavy lifting that no amount of high reps or mind-muscle sorcery is going to duplicate. In a natty context it's going to spike your T levels like nothing else assuming you're managing stress elsewhere and eating enough but it will also present some issues that you have to manage. 1) you're giving the joints and connective tissue a beating which in turn increases the risk of injury and 2) you're going to tax the CNS and accumulate fatigue.
I'm not a competitive lifter so don't train heavy very often. I find grinding through volume and higher rep PRs extremely rewarding. I'll occasionally do 10x10 "GVT" sets with shorter rest times. Take incline DB where I spend most of my time in the 100-110 range. Last workout was 3 sets of 110 x 12 then 90 x 30. Only a handful of gyms around here have more than 110 and only a few over 130. While I can press them, given I use form that is more like flyes with less emphasis on the triceps extension, I see no reason to go that heavy often. It's a chest exercise and I focus on getting a decent stretch and contraction of the pecs. Regularly chasing big numbers at this stage of my life isn't conducive to staying injury free.
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04-17-2023, 10:55 AM #6934
Never been a fan of maxmaxxing
I do fairly regular "1RM" to see where my current levels are but never a true 1RM in strict terms. I'd say I've never really gone past 90-95% more than once or twice in my life. I'm in my mid-40s now and I'm just happy i can just lift with a full ROM and have decent mobility.
I'm not worried much about strength in big lifts dropping as much as i am about preventing damage from old-age related things like falling off something. Thing I used to take for granted like jumping down from the back of a truck or off a chair suddenly seem way more risky.
Things like loaded carries, box jumps, deadlifts, pull-ups, "picking **** up and putting it overhead" all seem to be great for bulletproofing your body for old ageLast edited by W8isGR8; 04-17-2023 at 11:01 AM.
I don't know either lol
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04-17-2023, 12:19 PM #6935
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04-17-2023, 01:24 PM #6936
Great to hear how you both approach your training these days. Sounds very sensible. Which is ultimately what we're all striving for. Walking that line between making progress/maintaining and avoiding injury.
Speaking of injury...
I realize sh*t happens but it seems like his coach failed him here. Two years off from heavy lifting and only two months back (at a lighter body weight) he gave the green light to him attempting a bench PR, a lift he rarely trained during his 10 years in strongman. From feeling invincible to struggling to wipe your ass.
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04-17-2023, 01:35 PM #6937
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04-17-2023, 05:47 PM #6938
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04-18-2023, 07:01 AM #6939
I also have come to appreciate adding in concentric heavy movements to bump up volume without negatively affecting recovery. Things like sled pushing/pulling, ski erg, etc. I find it harder to recover from straight bro split bodybuilding as i get older. Feel it more in the joints and tendons from too much eccentric work.
I don't know either lol
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04-19-2023, 12:14 PM #6940
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04-19-2023, 01:49 PM #6941
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04-19-2023, 03:59 PM #6942
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04-19-2023, 09:40 PM #6943
Gambling can be fun, but I think your efforts will be better served evaluating and assessing your structure and holdings of international equities to assure you're properly positioned to capture and realize your fair share of risk adjusted returns over the next decade.
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04-20-2023, 03:06 AM #6944
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04-21-2023, 01:03 PM #6945
Trying a new plan out, which is a play on full body 3x a week (MWF):
Lower heavy/Upper light
Upper Heavy/Lower light
Lower heavy/Upper light
Then the next week would be
Upper Heavy/Lower light
Lower heavy/Upper light
Upper Heavy/Lower light
I tried the ULU LUL split years ago and liked it because it hit everything 3x in 2 weeks. I tend to respond better to higher frequency/volume, and do poorly on HIT or training real heavy to failure a lot.I don't know either lol
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04-22-2023, 05:43 PM #6946
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05-01-2023, 03:08 PM #6947
That's what everyone says until you win a couple hands and the drink girl asks where you're from.
Green Bay picked up the 10,000 yard passer from Penn State.
+ FWIW:
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