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    Smile █ Is this the most Logical thing to do to lose Weight? █

    Hey Guys

    So recently I came up with this plan to lose weight. I wanted to know what your opinion is on it.

    If someone is fat and want to lose weight would it be a good idea to cut down their food by 50%?

    Example:

    Bob is 220 lbs and 29 years old and has a big belly he feels lazy because of his weights.

    His diet consists of

    Breakfast
    2 fried eggs with 4 bread slices

    Supper
    2 flatbread with beef stew or sometimes rice instead of flatbread

    dinner
    2 flatbread with chicken or beef stew or sometimes rice instead of flatbread



    Bob's NEW DIET to Lose weight and be fit

    Breakfast
    2 fried eggs with 2 bread slices (instead of 4 slices)

    Supper
    1 Flatbread and half of beef stew then before (instead of 2 flatbread)

    dinner
    1 Flatbread with half beef or chicken stew then before. (instead of 2 flatbread)


    Would this diet help Bob lose weight? is this safe?
    Bob will also work out with lights weights for 20 min also.
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    Calories in/calories out
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    Originally Posted by RuntStud View Post
    Calories in/calories out
    meaning?
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    Originally Posted by AdamMuscles View Post
    meaning?
    Eat above tdee= Gain weight
    Eat below tdee= Lose weight

    Of course there's more in depth but im sure there's an expert nutritionist that has a copy of all the info you need lol
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    Originally Posted by RuntStud View Post
    Eat above tdee= Gain weight
    Eat below tdee= Lose weight

    Of course there's more in depth but im sure there's an expert nutritionist that has a copy of all the info you need lol

    bro i'm illiterate when it comes to nutrition/ calories so I would really need the help
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    Originally Posted by AdamMuscles View Post
    bro i'm illiterate when it comes to nutrition/ calories so I would really need the help
    If he eats less calories than his body needs, he loses weight. If he eats more than he needs, he gains weight.
    Short cuts to success are often paved with lies.
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    Originally Posted by AdamMuscles View Post
    bro i'm illiterate when it comes to nutrition/ calories so I would really need the help
    I know there's this one guy on here that has ALL the info on nutrition lol idk why he's not showing up
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    If he eats less calories than his body needs, he loses weight. If he eats more than he needs, he gains weight.
    Yeah! This guy has a copy of all the info
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    Originally Posted by RuntStud View Post
    Yeah! This guy has a copy of all the info
    It would be wasted to post it.
    Short cuts to success are often paved with lies.
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    Cutting food intake in half may in theory seem to work but it really comes down to what their intake was initially. If they are eating more than double than their maintenance level, cutting the food intake in half just means they'll gain weight slower, but they will still be getting fatter not leaner.
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    Firstly, we would need to know the height and weight of the individual, along with the sizes of his servings (caloric value). Secondly, the diet noted here is a severely lacking diet in regards to meeting your recommended number of servings for fruits and vegetables. Nutrition plays an enormous role in losing weight, as it ties in with many biological functions that you cannot consciously control, this is where fruits/vegetables come into play.

    In short, this individual needs to deviate away from the SAD-diet (Standard American Diet) and incorporate foods that contribute to weight loss rather than weight gain. Look into insulin response regarding the foods he consumes, certain meats rank high in insulin response, and in turn, the potential for weight gain.

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    the logical thing would be to educate yourself as to how to gain or lose weight and then try to take the path that yields the most results with the least amount of effort on your part.
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    Originally Posted by AdamMuscles View Post
    Bob will also work out with lights weights for 20 min also.
    Don't be Bob...
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    Bob needs too..


    Ride a bike

    Eat his carbs


    And ride his bike more.

    Obviously the most logical way to lose weight.
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    Don't be Bob...
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    Don't be Bob...
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    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    Bob needs too..


    Ride a bike

    Eat his carbs


    And ride his bike more.

    Obviously the most logical way to lose weight.

    Can bob have your bike?
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    Originally Posted by InoKaze View Post
    Firstly, we would need to know the height and weight of the individual, along with the sizes of his servings (caloric value). Secondly, the diet noted here is a severely lacking diet in regards to meeting your recommended number of servings for fruits and vegetables. Nutrition plays an enormous role in losing weight, as it ties in with many biological functions that you cannot consciously control, this is where fruits/vegetables come into play.

    In short, this individual needs to deviate away from the SAD-diet (Standard American Diet) and incorporate foods that contribute to weight loss rather than weight gain. Look into insulin response regarding the foods he consumes, certain meats rank high in insulin response, and in turn, the potential for weight gain.

    Best of luck to you.

    Height 6 feet with shoes on
    Weight 220 lbs with a full stomach

    Wouldn't fruit make you gain weight because of SUGAR?

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    Originally Posted by BrightonBomber View Post
    Cutting food intake in half may in theory seem to work but it really comes down to what their intake was initially. If they are eating more than double than their maintenance level, cutting the food intake in half just means they'll gain weight slower, but they will still be getting fatter not leaner.
    I guess you're right!

    it's like someone eats 10 chocolate and is FAT he then cuts it down to 5 chocolate just means they'll gain weight slower Am I right?
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    Originally Posted by AdamMuscles View Post
    Hey Guys

    So recently I came up with this plan to lose weight. I wanted to know what your opinion is on it.

    If someone is fat and want to lose weight would it be a good idea to cut down their food by 50%?

    Example:

    Bob is 220 lbs and 29 years old and has a big belly he feels lazy because of his weights.

    His diet consists of

    Breakfast
    2 fried eggs with 4 bread slices

    Supper
    2 flatbread with beef stew or sometimes rice instead of flatbread

    dinner
    2 flatbread with chicken or beef stew or sometimes rice instead of flatbread



    Bob's NEW DIET to Lose weight and be fit

    Breakfast
    2 fried eggs with 2 bread slices (instead of 4 slices)

    Supper
    1 Flatbread and half of beef stew then before (instead of 2 flatbread)

    dinner
    1 Flatbread with half beef or chicken stew then before. (instead of 2 flatbread)


    Would this diet help Bob lose weight? is this safe?
    Bob will also work out with lights weights for 20 min also.

    I will try to briefly spell it out.

    Weight loss or gain is a simple matter of "Energy Balance" based on how much you eat.

    Daily - you use some amount of energy (Measured in calories) for your body to move and take care of its metabolic processes.

    You can "Guess" what that amount of energy is or come very close to your needs using one of a dozen calculators on the web or this site to get your starting point, based on your weight, daily movement habits, etc.

    Articles like this are the reason this site is AWESOME!!! Use the calculator in this link below. And also read the article :-) (Good stuff in there)

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/the-...nutrition-plan


    Now lets say you or your friend falls right at 2000 calories per day to stay the same or maintenance level as we call it. Per the calculator.

    Fine, now go to myfitnesspal.com and setup an account and log in, install it on your phone, and setup your profile for the same amount as the calculator said, and set Myfitnesspal up to loose 1/2 a pound per week.

    Now the hard part (At first) is to track every bit of food and drink that goes in your mouth every day. Period.

    It gets easy as you go, because you eat alot of the same thing, and the app remembers. And use the bar code scanner if what your eating has a bar code. Even restaurants are in there, 5 million items if I recall.

    Everything gets entered! Beer, Twinkies, Water, etc.....track it all. The better you get at tracking, the better you will be able to control the result IMHO.

    Pick a day and weight yourself first thing in the AM (Same day every week) right after you wake and pee and if you do not go down .5 to 1 pound per week from your current level, reduce calories 150-200 or so per day and or increase your exercise amount for the week and repeat.

    Try not to go to far below you minimum calories recommended by the calculator (more than say 20%) as if you go into a very sharp calorie deficit, you body will start shutting down things and gets hard to work with. :-)

    You have to eat to loose, it sounds weird and counter intuitive, but trust me, I loose weight like a Kemo Patient when I cut, and I have a HUGH lunch box/cooler. :-)

    Also do NOT forget to drink a gallon of water each day.....I give newbies one of these jugs regularly :-) http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attach...3&d=1465009946

    Hope that helps!
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    Originally Posted by AdamMuscles View Post
    Height 6 feet with shoes on
    Weight 220 lbs with a full stomach

    Wouldn't fruit make you gain weight because of SUGAR?

    thanks

    I"m gonna make another post "Does eating less make you Stronger and more energetic"
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    Originally Posted by pcgboca View Post

    Also do NOT forget to drink a gallon of water each day.....I give newbies one of these jugs regularly :-) http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attach...3&d=1465009946

    Hope that helps!
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    This post generally had good advice, but I disagree with the gallon of water part. Drink when you are thirsty and drink to try to replenish fluids lost by sweating (which most people will if they drink while they are thirsty; hormones that modulate blood volume also modulate thirst). No need to force yourself to drink a gallon a day. If you eat a lot of fruits/vegetables or foods where you add water (ie, oatmeal), you'll get a lot of water from the foods you eat even without drinking additional water.
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    Originally Posted by Heisman2 View Post
    This post generally had good advice, but I disagree with the gallon of water part. Drink when you are thirsty and drink to try to replenish fluids lost by sweating (which most people will if they drink while they are thirsty; hormones that modulate blood volume also modulate thirst). No need to force yourself to drink a gallon a day. If you eat a lot of fruits/vegetables or foods where you add water (ie, oatmeal), you'll get a lot of water from the foods you eat even without drinking additional water.
    Actually it varies buy the person, and about a million other contributing factors (How much is the right amount per day) but the water in my fruits and veggies are not enough for me, even if I added 8 glasses.

    I easily pound 1.5 Gal on a hot day where I am working outside, etc......so the recommendation is very general and middle of the road to say "Drink a Gallon" IMHO, so that's why I recommend that.

    It is far better health and fitness wise to err on the side of caution and drink more than the min amount required per day, as the body can more easily deal with a bit too much water than not enough IMHO.

    You are 100% right, a bunch of folks will not need more than 2-3 liters, and the water in food counts. Some food is like 50% water or more, such as Avocado meat which is high in water and lets not forget Water Mellon. :-)

    Clinically speaking I think by the time you are thirsty you are partially de-hydrated as well.....and as you point out the best bet by far is to eat a lot of fruit & veggies in addition to your healthy fats and proteins.

    Get your Water on top of that and move a little and the magic will happen! :-)

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    Originally Posted by pcgboca View Post
    Actually it varies buy the person, and about a million other contributing factors (How much is the right amount per day) but the water in my fruits and veggies are not enough for me, even if I added 8 glasses.

    I easily pound 1.5 Gal on a hot day where I am working outside, etc......so the recommendation is very general and middle of the road to say "Drink a Gallon" IMHO, so that's why I recommend that.

    It is far better health and fitness wise to err on the side of caution and drink more than the min amount required per day, as the body can more easily deal with a bit too much water than not enough IMHO.

    You are 100% right, a bunch of folks will not need more than 2-3 liters, and the water in food counts. Some food is like 50% water or more, such as Avocado meat which is high in water and lets not forget Water Mellon. :-)

    Clinically speaking I think by the time you are thirsty you are partially de-hydrated as well.....and as you point out the best bet by far is to eat a lot of fruit & veggies in addition to your healthy fats and proteins.

    Get your Water on top of that and move a little and the magic will happen! :-)

    -Tom

    I agree with you!
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