Everytime I See A Sumo Deadlift On Instagram Or YouTube I Immediately Hit Back

[SheenBro]

Will never respect that chit

[nctarheels21]

Sumo is a joke.

[5everFat]

x2 srs

[kinzu1996]

sumo is for weak *******s who can't lift heavy enough properly.


inb4 negs from butthurt sumo ****s

[nzgs]

Well powerlifting is all about using leverage to shift as much weight as possible, that's why it's kinda stupid to exercise muscles that way since the two goals are opposites. Skills training for a powerlifting meet != optimal posterior chain exercise.

[.aeterna]

not sure if srs. Sumo requires more technique than conventional

but it's all about shortening bar travel distance. same thing as legal bench arch or a wide-stance squat...

[SheenBro]

Sumo is a joke.

lol this.

They should at least put it in a separate category or lift away from conventional DL.

[SheenBro]

not sure if srs. Sumo requires more technique than conventional

but it's all about shortening bar travel distance. same thing as legal bench arch or a wide-stance squat...

Yeah I dont respect that EXTREME arch bench either when you have a 2 inch bench ROM. Just kills the sport imo and takes away from the majestic beauty of these lifts. It's damn near cheating.

[SheenBro]

Well powerlifting is all about using leverage to shift as much weight as possible, that's why it's kinda stupid to exercise muscles that way since the two goals are opposites. Skills training for a powerlifting meet != optimal posterior chain exercise.

I know it's the main goal but these are still lifts performed by bodybuilders and people of other sports, i just can't find myself respecting anyone who performs the lift in that form and also i despise to excessive archers [some arching is cool] where the ROM is so short it can hardly be classed as a bench.




Might aswell just claim this the sport as 'who can find the cheekiest legal loop hole that can still past as a lift'. Pathetic andy.

[.aeterna]

Yeah I dont respect that EXTREME arch bench either when you have a 2 inch bench ROM. Just kills the sport imo and takes away from the majestic beauty of these lifts. It's damn near cheating.

i agree

i find deep oly/high bar squats and conventional deads to be more impressive than an ultra-wide low-bar squat that barely hits depth or a sumo dead. E.G





but i understand why the latter methods are used to competitions. They're generally more efficient since the bar travel distance is smaller

[nzgs]

I know it's the main goal but these are still lifts performed by bodybuilders and people of other sports, i just can't find myself respecting anyone who performs the lift in that form and also i despise to excessive archers [some arching is cool] where the ROM is so short it can hardly be classed as a bench.




Might aswell just claim this the sport as 'who can find the cheekiest legal loop hole that can still past as a lift'. Pathetic andy.

My point was that you can take an exercise and perform it completely differently depending on goals. Explosive sumo deadlift achieves completely the opposite thing to a slow conventional deadlift without touching the floor (Dorian style). Arched wide-grip flat bench with a bounce achieves the opposite thing to a flat-back superslow DB bench press. Wide stance low-bar powerlifting squat is the opposite of a high bar slow squat only performing the bottom 3/4 of the RoM with a pause at the bottom.

Both styles have their functions - one is to move weight, one is to stress muscles maximally with high intensity. What annoys me is when people think they're achieving one thing by doing the other.

[SheenBro]

i agree

i find deep oly/high bar squats and conventional deads to be more impressive than an ultra-wide low-bar squat that barely hits depth or a sumo dead. E.G





but i understand why the latter methods are used to competitions. They're generally more efficient since the bar travel distance is smaller

This is what it's about! buriful


And yeah I 'understand' why they use it, but I still don't really respect it and never get that feeling of awe like I literally just did watching those 2 lifts

[SheenBro]

My point was that you can take an exercise and perform it completely differently depending on goals. Explosive sumo deadlift achieves completely the opposite thing to a slow conventional deadlift without touching the floor (Dorian style). Arched wide-grip flat bench with a bounce achieves the opposite thing to a flat-back superslow DB bench press. Wide stance low-bar powerlifting squat is the opposite of a high bar slow squat only performing the bottom 3/4 of the RoM with a pause at the bottom.

Both styles have their functions - one is to move weight, one is to stress muscles maximally with high intensity. What annoys me is when people think they're achieving one thing by doing the other.

So this is why a lot of powerlifters can move a lot of weight but look like they've never touched a weight in their life? Not the fat ones, I'm talking powerlifters in the 165 and 181 class.


And nice physique man, thats pretty much my goal.

[StrongFella]

[Footzy]

Dude I can't stand listening to your jargon anymore. The fact that you talk a lot of **** that you can not back makes me believe that you do a lot of reading and not a lot of lifting. How Can you give advice to people without truly understanding what you are saying? The answer is you can't ..... You can not tell someone something without knowing if it works or not. You have no experience lifting. You hardly know anything. Everything you do know you read in a book or stole from someone else. You have no factual eveidence that it works. You just take advice from credible sources and post them as your own....As an aspiring personal trainer, who has actually spent time working in a gym, watching and criticizing and experimenting. Stop posting. You don't know what youre talking about. You know it too.

[Bababroey]

Dunno man, I prefer pulling sumo, I can feel it much more in my hams/glutes than when I pull conventional, where I mostly just feel it in my lower back. Since I am focusing on building my legs I choose to pull sumo.

[Jackal005]

I see no issue with using conventional and sumo at different stages as part of a periodised routine. Same for alternating between high bar/low bar/front squat. I'm currently pulling sumo but pulled conventional for all of last year, and will probably return to conventional at the end of the programme I'm currently running. I also think it's a good movement for people who aren't massively gym obsessed but want to get some kind of hip hinge movement in. I have a lot of my older clients doing sumo deads.

It also makes sense for powerlifters as they need to do what allows them to move the most weight. Although I would also like to see conventional and sumo graded in different categories.

[Jan1ss]

Lmao @ butthurt ****s who dont have mobility to do sumo and think that it somehow adds 20-30lbs to your deadlift.
You guys do realize that in sumo you use more legs less back and if your hamstrings or hips are weak point you wont be able to pull chit in sumo right ?
Also KK couldnt pull 800lbs in sumo (saw it in gym and dude pulls that chit in conventional for reps when standing on 2 inch block)

most guys who hate on sumo are uneducated lifters who dont understand the mechanics of the lift and think that just because lift looks easier in 2 dimensions(herp derp less rom) its also easier in 3 dimensions aka real life

[bobbydigitaloa]

This troll topic again?

lol

Look at all this cheating...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y39frg0SS7A

[SheenBro]

Dunno man, I prefer pulling sumo, I can feel it much more in my hams/glutes than when I pull conventional, where I mostly just feel it in my lower back. Since I am focusing on building my legs I choose to pull sumo.

How is that possible? my legs are fried after deadlifts. Y'all buggin or lifting pussy weights

[SheenBro]

I see no issue with using conventional and sumo at different stages as part of a periodised routine. Same for alternating between high bar/low bar/front squat. I'm currently pulling sumo but pulled conventional for all of last year, and will probably return to conventional at the end of the programme I'm currently running. I also think it's a good movement for people who aren't massively gym obsessed but want to get some kind of hip hinge movement in. I have a lot of my older clients doing sumo deads.

It also makes sense for powerlifters as they need to do what allows them to move the most weight. Although I would also like to see conventional and sumo graded in different categories.

Last point hit home man. They should be separate categories.

Lmao @ butthurt ****s who dont have mobility to do sumo and think that it somehow adds 20-30lbs to your deadlift.
You guys do realize that in sumo you use more legs less back and if your hamstrings or hips are weak point you wont be able to pull chit in sumo right ?
Also KK couldnt pull 800lbs in sumo (saw it in gym and dude pulls that chit in conventional for reps when standing on 2 inch block)

most guys who hate on sumo are uneducated lifters who dont understand the mechanics of the lift and think that just because lift looks easier in 2 dimensions(herp derp less rom) its also easier in 3 dimensions aka real life

Tom martin can deadlift well over 800lbs and could barely deadlift 600lbs sumo, just takes some time to adjust to, you cant expect to match your max using a different technique. I still think it's a pusssy ass lift

This troll topic again?

lol

Not a troll topic, tons of people hold the same opinion

[Dan_S]

Dunno man, I prefer pulling sumo, I can feel it much more in my hams/glutes than when I pull conventional, where I mostly just feel it in my lower back. Since I am focusing on building my legs I choose to pull sumo.

Have you considered doing RDL's instead? Or in addition to?

[EoR]

Would you respect my deadlift if I had like 2 meter arms?

[bobbydigitaloa]

Not a troll topic, tons of people hold the same opinion

Correct...they are people that can't lift heavy so they assume it's "easier".

[PovertyLifter]

sheen brah pls.

sumo is more technically demanding than conventional.

every now and then i'll misgroove a sumo rep and even a poverty 80%1RM rep will fail to break the floor.

also people who actually do it properly make it look fuking mint, pozdeev for example

[SheenBro]

Look at all this cheating...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y39frg0SS7A

Not mirin

This is what its about bro

[SheenBro]

Correct...they are people that can't lift heavy so they assume it's "easier".

lol no they arent. Got mates that lift well past your max and agree [guy I just posted is one example], he thinks sumo is gay AF too

[SheenBro]

sheen brah pls.

sumo is more technically demanding than conventional.

every now and then i'll misgroove a sumo rep and even a poverty 80%1RM rep will fail to break the floor.

also people who actually do it properly make it look fuking mint, pozdeev for example

lol that was way too easy for him.


I just think they should be separate lifts bruh

Would you respect my deadlift if I had like 2 meter arms?

Nah

[coynemoney]

Sumo is legit but it's become a meme from instagram famous sloots doing it all the time.

[Nosferatu187]

lmfao

johnny candito breaks his foot.