while i agree with you on certain parts..what exactly is your solution?
you do realize society would be chit without marriage? you do realize if there's no marriage that you are condoning more competition and competitive behavior (which has more people phucking over one another)
the family unit is basically the crux of all societal values; the family unit is the basis of all amicable laws.
if you remove the family unit it means there's an incessant vying for sex between everybody, and there's no real prerogative to docile behavior; only a prerogative of obtaining more sex.
are we sure this "relationship" concept exists without the concept of marriage?
i agree with you guys that marriage stands for nothing but a legal contract nowadays, and amicable relationships can exist without that document, but i'm not exactly sure we are where we are without marriage existing as it has previously. nor would anybody vy for it without its necessity as a cultural trend and tax breaks
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This. Of course most of the benefits stated can be obtained without marrying, so it doesn't seem make sense to get married.
While marriage might not logically make sense (apart from some small tax perks), it's a cultural remnant overlapped with religion that really isn't enforced or bothering anyone who doesn't partake in it.
It's like Christmas. You might say "lol @ Christmas, explain why in 2016 we gotta have a tree, give presents to people and worship some Middle-Eastern Jewish baby that wasn't even born in December". You don't NEED to decorate a tree and exchange gifts with friends/family at the end of December, there's no logical basis or necessity to it but it's just one of these cultural phenomena that has persisted and isn't bothering anyone enough to abolish. Heck, even non-Christians celebrate it because it becomes a part of their society's national holiday. If I lived in a country that had some sort of different national gift-giving/religious ceremonial holiday I'd probably take part in the customs too without being part of that religion.
Marriage is just one of these societal quirks. Humanity just happened to think of some arbitrary statement of intent to 'express love and commitment' and incorporate it into different cultures and religions. If we lived in a society that evolved to show love and commitment in another way (e.g. give a girl a cup of sacrificial sheep's blood to drink) instead of signing some legal contract, then we'd all be doing that too (and complaining about it on the misc)
Solution? There's no solution lol, because there's no problem. Christmas exists (even though it's "logically" pointless) but that's not a problem. Let marriage stay, even if it's 2016. Fukk it I'll probably get married too just because it's part of our society's culture. And yes, our society currently respects/values married men more than unmarried ones.
I'm saying while marriage is basically pointless, its existence isn't harming anyone so we don't need to actively abolish it even though it is archaic and somewhat redundant. British royal family has no real function or effective ruling power but they're quirky and raise money through tourism/PR so meh, let em stay.Last edited by Ronceiro; 05-11-2016 at 06:18 PM.
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He's scared to admit that it isn't.
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05-10-2016, 01:05 PM #253
I agree, but I would also like to add that maybe the solution is we should treat marriage like college.
It's not for everyone, too many people make money from it and divorce, it works for some people, some people work around it and find happiness.
And finally, everyone should honestly just mind their own business. The societal pressure is annoying
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05-11-2016, 11:34 PM #254
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Found this thread in my tabs. Had to neg this stupid sloot.
It would be even funnier if your marriage made another 5-10 years because you'd just be hanging around either out of emotional neediness like a typical weakling, or because you were trying to save face.
But it's always fun to see two emotional weaklings find each other.
A woman on a forum with 99% men can only be delusional to be in a relationship, let alone a marriage.
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05-11-2016, 11:45 PM #255
lol is he serious? Most of the cons he lists are actually pros and most of the pros he lists are cons
He says that less time with friends and in bars in bad, and more time working and going to church is good.
also, he makes this odd assumption, that once you get married your life is complete and you'll never get divorced and deal with the Courts and child support and all that nonsense.
He talks as if he's trying to push an agenda.
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