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05-07-2016, 06:41 AM #61
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05-07-2016, 06:44 AM #62
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05-07-2016, 07:32 AM #63
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05-07-2016, 07:48 AM #64
If the trainer "is a beast and like pro size" then he is taking some super supplements he's not telling you about. Take his advices with a grain of salt. If he could do it natty, he would have.
Anyway, the method he was talking about sounds like Layne Norton's mini cut/mini bulk cycles. Most people who have tried it have failed. While it may work for Dr. Norton, you have to remember he is an advanced, world class trainee. He is at the top of the food chain. It will work for him because he is at his natural genetic limits and he is refining for competition purposes.
Someone who has a lot of muscle to gain needs to stay on a calorie surplus and build lean mass. You can't do that on a deficit. Every time you go on a calorie deficit you stop the muscle building process.
He also suggested I have my testosterone levels checked, which I'm thinking maybe I need to do.
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05-08-2016, 12:17 AM #65
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05-08-2016, 09:19 AM #66
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05-08-2016, 10:15 AM #67
I really try to stay out of these pis$ing matches but can't let OP hang out on a limb on this one by himself.
I'm over 5 years in and am not hitting those numbers either.
I have a stack of workout sheets 6 inches thick, I've always stuck only with compounds and have posted plenty of videos of my sets to prove I go hard. I'd be more than happy to post them again but doubt you care that much
Throwing up numbers that someone should be hitting isn't necessarily itself bad and I actually agree with those numbers as achievable for just about anyone, myself included. What I don't agree with is trying to theorize blindly on why someone isn't hitting those numbers when there are a lot of different possibilities beyond whether or not they go hard in the gym.
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05-08-2016, 10:51 AM #68
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Look it's not so much that he's not hitting those numbers, it's the fact that he's nowhere near them. At 185# squats and 245# deadlifts he's at what you would normally expect to see from someone with 6-12 months of lifting experience not five *******ing years into it.
Somewhere along the line he just stopped pushing himself and seriously stalled in progress.
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05-08-2016, 10:54 AM #69
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05-08-2016, 10:59 AM #70
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05-08-2016, 11:11 AM #71
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05-08-2016, 12:59 PM #72
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OP, these devices are total crap. They have no use whatsoever other than to make the company that sells them rich. It's a consensus ...review after review...they don't work. I used a friend of mine's device once and his required that you enter height and weight. What is the point of that if they actually work? It factors in BMI...they don't work. At your height and body weight the last thing you need to be doing is eating like self-conscious teen-aged girl. And at those calories ...that's exactly what you're doing. If you want lean mass you must eat in order to grow. And as some in this thread have stated, it's not an easy task for everyone. Some have superior genetics, some use pharmaceuticals ( whether prescribed or black market ), some have both... and some have neither and just bust their ass and eat right to reach their goal. Take the constructive criticism in your thread and make use of it. Send the device back and spend your money on some steaks...a tub of whey..something. Just eat more and quit chasing a useless bf% number.
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05-09-2016, 08:36 AM #73
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