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    Originally Posted by cphunter70 View Post
    There is no medical cure. He dared to believe and not only did he make a recovery but he no longer had to take his meds since it's gone.
    http://www.healthline.com/health/lup...ncy#Pregnancy1
    not to rain on his parade (as it is quite amazing) but people have been known to "heal" from believing in being cured, placebos; brb sugar pills and convictions outperforming pills costing MILLIONS to develop.


    Originally Posted by rockr101 View Post
    you have to understand that time didn't exist before the universe. It's a hard concept to grasp.

    btw I don't believe in gods.
    yeah Im aware, just a difficult concept to grasp how something could exist forever yet our existence was created by it now, as opposed to X quantities of Y later.
    on another thought it having perfect knowledge of everything sorta makes everything exist at once in that entities mind (we might not have been made yet but just be gods knowledge of the future lol.)
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    Originally Posted by repsacasz View Post
    not to rain on his parade (as it is quite amazing) but people have been known to "heal" from believing in being cured, placebos; brb sugar pills and convictions outperforming pills costing MILLIONS to develop.




    yeah Im aware, just a difficult concept to grasp how something could exist forever yet our existence was created by it now, as opposed to X quantities of Y later.
    on another thought it having perfect knowledge of everything sorta makes everything exist at once in that entities mind (we might not have been made yet but just be gods knowledge of the future lol.)
    Yeah there is people who have experienced the same outcome. It is interesting to say the least when an incurable disease is cured and medicine has no answer for "miracles" or whatever people want to call it.
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    Originally Posted by cphunter70 View Post
    Yeah there is people who have experienced the same outcome. It is interesting to say the least when an incurable disease is cured and medicine has no answer for "miracles" or whatever people want to call it.
    Those "miracles" are lapses in our medical knowledge. This may shock you, but we have no idea why most medicine works

    For example, we can fix eyes to a degree, but the eyes are viewed as a foreign object by the body and will constantly attack it instead of heal it. Why does the body do this? Doesn't matter, life goes on and doctors will still perform surgery on eyes despite no one knowing why it works and why the body does it. No one is funding enough money into figuring these things out

    Over the past few decades, technology has advanced much faster than our knowledge of nature. It wasn't that long ago penicillin was this amazing discovery that saved us. Your misunderstanding is overestimating how far we've advanced over the last century, simply because of how advanced tech has become
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    Originally Posted by Lolip0p View Post
    Those "miracles" are lapses in our medical knowledge. This may shock you, but we have no idea why most medicine works

    For example, we can fix eyes to a degree, but the eyes are viewed as a foreign object by the body and will constantly attack it instead of heal it. Why does the body do this? Doesn't matter, life goes on and doctors will still perform surgery on eyes despite no one knowing why it works and why the body does it. No one is funding enough money into figuring these things out

    Over the past few decades, technology has advanced much faster than our knowledge of nature. It wasn't that long ago penicillin was this amazing discovery that saved us. Your misunderstanding is overestimating how far we've advanced over the last century, simply because of how advanced tech has become
    This pretty much sums up my thoughts.

    It is common for religious people to experience something which cannot be explained by conventional wisdom, and explain this something with something even more extraordinary, an all knowing, all seeing, all doing "god". This is a completely illogical and ridiculous leap, but one that is made frequently. Not being able to explain something in this exact moment, does not mean there is not a reasonably simple and logical explanation for something at all. This ties in perfectly with the medical examples given here.
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    Why didn't Noah put the T-Rex on his ark?
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    Originally Posted by Lolip0p View Post
    Those "miracles" are lapses in our medical knowledge. This may shock you, but we have no idea why most medicine works

    For example, we can fix eyes to a degree, but the eyes are viewed as a foreign object by the body and will constantly attack it instead of heal it. Why does the body do this? Doesn't matter, life goes on and doctors will still perform surgery on eyes despite no one knowing why it works and why the body does it. No one is funding enough money into figuring these things out

    Over the past few decades, technology has advanced much faster than our knowledge of nature. It wasn't that long ago penicillin was this amazing discovery that saved us. Your misunderstanding is overestimating how far we've advanced over the last century, simply because of how advanced tech has become
    You totally missed my point and over analyzed. I am not under or overestimating technology. "It's interesting" as in I'm curious to see/understand when we will be able to unlock or understand medical mysteries. I am waiting in expectancy.
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    Originally Posted by SaltyDog920 View Post
    Why didn't Noah put the T-Rex on his ark?
    Bugger would have mauled everyone like the last Jurassic Park movie
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    Originally Posted by cphunter70 View Post
    You totally missed my point and over analyzed. I am not under or overestimating technology. "It's interesting" as in I'm curious to see/understand when we will be able to unlock or understand medical mysteries. I am waiting in expectancy.
    It will not happen in our lifetime, the only difference between now and the 1940's is we've had time to throw enough random darts at a board and some of them hit the center.
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    Is ezekiel 23:20 ''There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.'' the biblical version of sloots gonna sloot?
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    Why didn't Noah put the T-Rex on his ark?
    Maybe Noah brought baby dinosaurs on board instead of full size ones.
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    If God is omniscient and omnipotent meaning he knows everything that has ever happened and everything that ever will happen. Then why did he have to flood the Earth and so he could have a do-over? How can someone who knows everything REGRET making humans if he should have saw it coming in the first place?

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    couple of questions that ive been unable to answer myself and curious how others feel.

    1. why 2 different creation stories in genesis? The order is different. Seems like God would have made sure the scripture was the same for such an important book.

    2. who did cain and seth marry? Did God create other humans and they married them?

    3. where do cavemen come from?

    4. why doesnt god send anymore prophets? Seems like they were abundant in biblical times.

    5. seems like God can create peace on earth if he told the christians, muslims, and jews how he wanted to be worshipped and who is correct instead of letting two thousand years go by of senseless fighting and wars. they all believe they are the chosen ones. God could just poke his head out of the clouds and say "hey so and so is the correct religion"
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    Originally Posted by Miked1978 View Post
    couple of questions that ive been unable to answer myself and curious how others feel.

    1. why 2 different creation stories in genesis? The order is different. Seems like God would have made sure the scripture was the same for such an important book.

    2. who did cain and seth marry? Did God create other humans and they married them?

    3. where do cavemen come from?

    4. why doesnt god send anymore prophets? Seems like they were abundant in biblical times.

    5. seems like God can create peace on earth if he told the christians, muslims, and jews how he wanted to be worshipped and who is correct instead of letting two thousand years go by of senseless fighting and wars. they all believe they are the chosen ones. God could just poke his head out of the clouds and say "hey so and so is the correct religion"
    2. Lots of incest from cousins, or nieces/nephews. Adam had other sons and daughters which only Seth's name was mentioned. Having more than two wives was common.


    4. Prophets are still around. People don't recognize them as prophets but rather criticize them for any mistake and discredit any prophecy they bring. In the old testament we see how prophets were used but also sinned. Even thought they sinned God still honored HIS word of prophecy.
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    I understand Christians believe in the Bible as the word of God...but on whose authority is it that the collective scriptures are truly the word of God? Couldn't the Bible just be a group of "free e-books" written to obtain followers email information so that they can later sell them on products (for example, tithes to the church)? Is there not a conflict of interest in a group of men deciding that what another group of men wrote is or isn't the word of God?
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    Is that just a part of God's plan? If there truly is a God, and he allows this sort of bullshiit to happen, why would you want to spend your entire life worshiping him?
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    Originally Posted by Muzzlrpress View Post
    If everything was happy all the time, what would be the incentive to go to heaven?
    If everything was happy, would it not already be heaven?
    How dare you!

    Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner.

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    Originally Posted by LovePollution View Post
    If everything was happy, would it not already be heaven?
    Yeah, but then earth would be irrelevant.
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    is infinite punishment (hell) for a finite crime (sin) just?
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    Originally Posted by Muzzlrpress View Post
    If everything was happy all the time, what would be the incentive to go to heaven?
    This perspective is the worst that religion has to offer. The suggestion that we are somehow entitled to something better than this life. You, and the unfortunate and altruistic boy that suffered cancer, should consider every moment of this life a 'miracle' in its own right, and not diminish the value of this one life with by suggesting that we could somehow be entitled to more.

    The shame in this, is that believers with this mindset really do not realize how incredibly unlikely and precious their life is. As a result, they waste it longing for some imaginary utopia.

    Just obscene.
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    Originally Posted by cphunter70 View Post
    - Friend from church had lupus and now he doesn't according to the Doc. He gave a speech at his graduation. https://vimeo.com/97050026
    Not impossible.

    I mean what I said. Give me one example of something actually not possible then occurring. You can't, impossible things can't happen.
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    I do hope that there's more after death, a continuation of some kind, but as a logical person, someone who questions things, who's science driven, I personally do not understand you Bible/religion followers. Unfortunately science cannot answers a lot of questions, even if you believe in evolution, we can't explain how life and Universe were created, which makes it easier for a person to be turned towards religion. We, as species, are not evolved/knowledgeable enough to know all the answers, which sucks, but that's reality.

    I'm not going to bother writing a novel, the truth is, majority of people are either unintelligent or have been brainwashed with religion and similar bs since they were kids, which basically means you're pointless to reason and argue with, just a lost cause. These argnostic/atheist people who laugh at men made religions should know dat feel. It's funny to us that you believe in something so stupid, something that's not logical. Following a book of total chit that makes no sense, but because you can't explain your existence, that's your only option (mmmkay?)

    The reality is, we can't explain how we came to be, we don't know why or how, but what I know is neither can you.
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