Recently awared about this.
It's a touchy subject tbh and IMO both sides are wrong to an extent. Janoy may have learning difficulties but from what we have seen of him, he has some awareness into what he does (e.g. previous financial scams, eliciting sympathy/attention in videos, knowing how much "power" he has and using it to order 66 people). He might not fully understand the consequences of his actions (e.g. order 66'ing a youtube fitness guy might ruin the guy's income/livelihood) but he knows how to get attention and controversy, much like a young child will do things to get attention and because they feel they can get away with mischief (without fully realising the consequences of their actions).
From the full video, it seems that it was in a controlled environment, rules were laid out and consent was gained (again, Pisslord may have learning difficulties but he has enough mental capacity to give tacit consent to a slap-up), Piana stopped when asked to stop, AND the hatchet was buried after those few seconds of slapping.
Also some people out there would full-on beat 7 shades of $hit out of you for maligning them on social media especially when it can ruin their business/livelihood. A few seconds of consented slapping is nothing compared to that. While we like trolling especially as miscbrahs, we have to be ready to accept the consequences (if I dox/troll/ruin an online business of an absolute nutter and and he beats the fukk out of me, I need to accept that risk even though it may not be morally right for him to knock me out). Could just keep things simple and not talk $hit about people too.
Now the other side....
In a fitness expo, when you are promoting your brand, you are setting a $hit example by hitting people. As you can see in the full video, there were kids in the queue. Some people in the queue looked a little disturbed/uneasy due to the slap-up too. If Piana had a genuine problem with Jason, he should have dealt with it in a less-public setting (idunno, maybe outside the expo venue) where kids and your potential customers aren't hanging about.
Both sides went full-retard. Jason got the consequences of trolling/order 66'ing (slapped on camera by a 300lb syntholed-up giant), now Rich Piana has to be ready to accept the inevitable backlash that will come from slapping a learning-impaired individual on camera in public infront of children.
cliffs:
-Janoy might have learning difficulties but has some awareness/ability to manipulate (eg scamming money off others, fishing for sympathy, abusing his influence to order 66 people)
- ie he has responsibility for his actions and shouldn't be given the lenience and leeway given to a child.
- he gave consent to being slapped and has mental capacity to give consent, Piana stopped when asked to, couple of light slaps would not cause bodily harm.
-Chat $hit, get banged.
-Piana is wrong for resorting to slapping and shouldn't have done it in a public place infront of kids
-People in the queue were visibly uncomfortable, not what you want to be doing to customers of your products
-Both sides are wrong.
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05-02-2016, 05:00 PM #841
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05-02-2016, 05:06 PM #844
Only one I was interested in was Lobliner, solely because of his past with Genova. He delivered. The rest are just begging for views.
I was disappointed in Christian Guzman (who Im a fan of, regardless of misc hate) when he ended his video title with "RIGHT BABE?!" I was expecting commentary about this event, instead I got him awkwardly shaking Panini's hand while Piano stared at his cell phone.I'm back, bby - doubt you noticed
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05-02-2016, 05:29 PM #851
LULZ did you see LUIs video
"Rich Rich please stop, theyre called miscers and theyre VERY real"
and to the idiots saying genova deserved it...youre personal opinion doesnt mean sht
Genova makes a living doing what he does (thats capitalism for you) and rich is a loser for letting it get to him.."Take account of yourselves before your are brought to account."
You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength -Marcus Aurelius
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05-02-2016, 05:56 PM #862Death is impossible for us to fathom: it is so immense, so frightening, that we will do almost anything to avoid thinking about it. Society is organized to make death invisible, to keep it several steps removed. That distance may seem necessary for our comfort, but it comes with a terrible price: the illusion of limitless time, and a consequent lack of seriousness about daily life. We are running away from the one reality that faces us all.
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05-02-2016, 06:13 PM #867
Rich was mad because an autist showed him that his entire business model can be subverted by trolls. But is it Jason's fault Rich's business relies on internet channels like social media and YouTube for its sales funnel? No.
Rich knows brand credibility is everything, otherwise he can't pedal products on the internet. He also knows trolls can tarnish his image at a moment's notice. Put the two together. He wanted to take his frustration for trolls out on Jason.
If it weren't about business, if Rich were actually secure in himself, he wouldn't have felt the need to take it to that level after seeing how obsequious Jason was acting towards him. He knew Jason was intimidated. He knew he had already embarrassed him. He already taught him a lesson before needing to put his hands on him. He did what he did out of anger.
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05-02-2016, 06:21 PM #868
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05-02-2016, 06:27 PM #870
Hopefully more than slap box him. Pretty sure most people would turn their head while it happened.
Edit - to clarify, I don't condone assault as my comments have shown in this thread, but VG is low of the low to me. You don't openly wish cancer and death upon people you don't even know. Dude has no respect from me, not that it matters.I'm back, bby - doubt you noticed
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