Official Raw 3/21/2016 Thread

[RoccoTanno123]

Call me a smark, but I hope Vince actually addresses the HHH-Reigns situation considering how he actually gave a chit about this in the past, but hasn't shown up or done anything tonight about it.

[KernelBluegrass]

Spoken like a true KO hater. He's been awesome, and I've still gotta rewind and see all of AJ vs. Owens. This show seems like it could've used a bit more Vince, Brock/Heyman, or Ambrose so far though. I really hope Ambrose pins Braun tonight.

edit: It's worth noting that Charlotte has been tons better as heel since turning. I actually want her to lose but fear that she'll win at WM.

Owens is mehhh... Aj is mehhh....maybe they will grow on me later?
And even I don't want to see another Jericho vs AJ.

THIS IS suppose to be the Road To Wrestlemania but tonight show is weak.

[Larfleeze]

They couldn't stump up the cash to fly Brock out two weeks before fuking mania nah?

[RoccoTanno123]

Was that when he was "the one"? I actually quite liked him at that point lol. Also the silent treatment doesn't work, Del Rio got ZERO reaction for all of 2013 yet still held the world title for like a decade

Nah, "the one" was later. 1999 was "Mr. Ass" when he won King of the Ring and challenged The Rock at Summerslam.

And the silent treatment with a few boos works, imo, if you actually pop hard for his opponents who you like and are willing to do that for months. Del Rio faced lots of hated wrestlers during that period, but he got killed after that. They tried the same chit with Reigns when they paired him vs. ****ing Big Show and Sheamus.

[cheerupemokid]

They couldn't stump up the cash to fly Brock out two weeks before fuking mania nah?

I think I heard he's going to be on Smackdown this week.

[RoccoTanno123]

Man that triple H and reigns segment was terrible. You would think they would lock the door or try to escape once they saw Reigns slowly walk down to the car. Awful segment.

Like I said, seemed like tweener to the max. Why not gimmick the window and have him superman punch it out and then rip HHH out? If they were worried about a goldberg incident then give him a cast or whatever protecting his arm, considering he's already waiting and knows HHH is showing up in a car.

I guess they think booking it like this will interest more people to subscribe to the network or ppv buy than another way....

[MikeTheOne]

No Ryback or Kalisto tonight?

[SageKing]

Okay somebody explain that weak pop for Ambrose in Philly of all places. Camera panned across the crowd and people were legit sitting on their hands.

[Larfleeze]

Okay somebody explain that weak pop for Ambrose in Philly of all places. Camera panned across the crowd and people were legit sitting on their hands.

like the fourth time we've seen him tonight

[RoccoTanno123]

Okay somebody explain that weak pop for Ambrose in Philly of all places. Camera panned across the crowd and people were legit sitting on their hands.

I'd guess it's the show? I'm not hating it, not saying it's great, but it's definitely a show that you'd feel better about watching on TV than in the arena. He has shown up a couple times earlier. Plus, that Vince segment was a waste. No pay off to Ambrose facing him, no comment on HHH-Reigns, and you make fans think even more....why is Taker willing to face Shane again after that proclamation.

[Larfleeze]

Nah, "the one" was later. 1999 was "Mr. Ass" when he won King of the Ring and challenged The Rock at Summerslam.

And the silent treatment with a few boos works, imo, if you actually pop hard for his opponents who you like and are willing to do that for months. Del Rio faced lots of hated wrestlers during that period, but he got killed after that. They tried the same chit with Reigns when they paired him vs. ****ing Big Show and Sheamus.

Hmm, I remember Rock burying him with the god promo but that's about it really.

[B33f]

Okay somebody explain that weak pop for Ambrose in Philly of all places. Camera panned across the crowd and people were legit sitting on their hands.

They couldn't stand up due to massive erections and poodles between their legs.

[SageKing]

I'd guess it's the show? I'm not hating it, not saying it's great, but it's definitely a show that you'd feel better about watching on TV than in the arena.

Roman got a bigger reaction than Dean, even if it is mixed a reaction is a reaction so ppl can't really complain about Roman being ahead of Dean if they can't even bother to cheer for him.

[ballieveryday]

Philly has got a pretty lame crowd... I guess I don't blame them though for a not so great show with Wrestlemania coming up. Like, did they seriously book Jericho vs. Fandago? Is Fandago considered a face now?!

[RoccoTanno123]

Hmm, I remember Rock burying him with the god promo but that's about it really.

Billy did some photo shop promos on one or two RAWs, and on the go home, The Rock was crushing him again, but Billy beat him up in a fist fight and made him kiss Billy's poison ivy'd ass. Yep, srs. Check it out in those August RAWs. We try not remember that and other stupid **** from around then (like the HHH shoving down the throat) because it was forced and awful.

[RoccoTanno123]

Roman got a bigger reaction than Dean, even if it is mixed a reaction is a reaction so ppl can't really complain about Roman being ahead of Dean if they can't even bother to cheer for him.

I'm sure that's what WWE will think. Philly fans probably feel a bit compelled bcs they were the *******s that decided to get really behind Reigns when it was Regns vs. Vince and Sheamus.


..............DQ? and heat back? ................man........

really bad last hour. they did some inventive format stuff, but the execution of the angles and segments on this show was weak mostly. I expect reviewers to bury this raw.

[ballieveryday]

The fans chant boring and the wyatt's look like chit once again. Why are they still a group?!

[Larfleeze]

Billy did some photo shop promos on one or two RAWs, and on the go home, The Rock was crushing him again, but Billy beat him up in a fist fight and made him kiss Billy's poison ivy'd ass. Yep, srs. Check it out in those August RAWs. We try not remember that and other stupid **** from around then (like the HHH shoving down the throat) because it was forced and awful.

I'd rather not, I have nothing but good memories of that time (except Benoit, he bored me to tears as a kid) seeing as I was 7/8 lol

[Bannister11]

an overall pretty awful episode of raw

wow

[SageKing]

Real sign of the times when it is the Road to Wrestlemania and the thread is this small, and everyone is bored.

Each RAW thread is like a last man standing match, where posters see who will last until the end.

[KernelBluegrass]

So dean gets DQ'd and still gets his music played?





Even Heyman couldn't save this show.

[MikeTheOne]

Lol at three guys just standing and watching their own get attacked then get in the ring after the attack.

[Larfleeze]

Real sign of the times when it is the Road to Wrestlemania and the thread is this small, and everyone is bored.

Each RAW thread is like a last man standing match, where posters see who will last until the end.

They've genuinely been pretty brutal lately.

[RoccoTanno123]

I'd rather not, I have nothing but good memories of that time (except Benoit, he bored me to tears as a kid) seeing as I was 7/8 lol

The Rock crushed Billy at Summerslam, and none of the fans gave a chit about Billy Gunn, so order was restored. The Rock had to feud vs. Bulldog after and not get a big world title run again until Backlash because HHH!!!!! (and Big Slow) tho.

[RScary15]

Show sucked

Aside from Aj/Owens

And Sa$ha

[RoccoTanno123]

Lol at three guys just standing and watching their own get attacked then get in the ring after the attack.

The Wyatts are dead. Just book New Day strong, give them the Rock rub, and then have them bury this faction at Extreme Rules and start going new directions after that because these 4 are done as a faction, especially Bray as the cult leader.

[SageKing]

So it looks like heading into Mania the only guys who are as over as they 'should' be are:

AJ Styles
New Day (Only turned face because their opponents are so bad they had no choice)
Sami Zayn (Despite no story being explained, brb new fans using their imagination)
Kevin Owens (despite heel, he is more over than 99 percent of the roster)
HHH (despite heel, more over than his opponent)

And maybe Ambrose if this was just a bad night.....

[ballieveryday]

I believe that was just a bad night for Ambrose, but that match was pure garbage. Is Brock and Ambrose going to be a hardcore match with other former stars giving him weapons?

[RoccoTanno123]

So it looks like heading into Mania the only guys who are as over as they 'should' be are:

AJ Styles
New Day (Only turned face because their opponents are so bad they had no choice)
Sami Zayn (Despite no story being explained, brb new fans using their imagination)
Kevin Owens (despite heel, he is more over than 99 percent of the roster)
HHH (despite heel, more over than his opponent)

And maybe Ambrose if this was just a bad night.....

Bad night for Ambrose, definitely. He's been over otherwise.

I thought tonight was bad for New Day. Book the league as jobbers, not cool heels, but we'll see if that lasts. New Day should be talented and over enough to survive it atm.

Shane and Taker are both over, but neither was on this show. Brock is over, but again not on this show.

Zayn doesn't seem as over to me as he should be at all. I do hope he gets over, but fans haven't been much a reason to take him seriously and so far that is showing up in his treatment. Additionally, I am now wondering his injury and return to putting people over in the NXT main event scene is hurting how over he is right now.

[SageKing]

Forgot about Brock, another guy they turned face because fans liked him more despite ending Taker's streak, and facing the 'next face of the company' Roman 'Sufferin Succotash' Reigns.

Shane and Taker have tapering interest now that everyone realizes the feud is half-baked. Vince also dropped heavily in reaction, and his segment ended with him awkwardly standing in the ring to almost dead silence after his promo....
They are pushing this as hard as they can as the big thing at WM, but it clearly isn't and we should be seeing video packages of Dean vs. Lesnar and Trips vs. Roman all show long instead of stars going on about Shane and Taker in their gimmick match.
We are coming off Taker HBK, Taker Trips, Taker Punk, Taker Lesnar at WM... This doesn't top that and no amount of video packages with Pat Patterson will convince us otherwise.

Zayn I guess is as over as he should be given the whole no storyline thing. He could rightfully be receiving the Tyler Breeze treatment with how he just appeared on Raw...

League I have no idea what is going on. They aren't over, aren't a threat, and we see them wrestle New Day everyweek and we are supposed to be pumped for a 'payoff'? And why did Alberto win over Cena? As an apology for getting fired? Only wayI can explain it as he is somehow practically a lower midcarder now.