yeah he's an interesting lottery ticket, but i'm thinking he'll probably get overdrafted by someone in the 6th or 7th chasing dem WR2 statsOriginally Posted by Tyler2106
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08-24-2016, 09:58 AM #811Registered User
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08-24-2016, 10:44 AM #812Registered User
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Rate the following RBs in order of who finishes the year with most fantasy points. Let's say .5 PPR and no injuries.
Mark Ingram
Doug Martin
Lesean McCoy
Devonta Freeman
Eddy LacyNew England Patriot
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08-24-2016, 10:45 AM #813lacyOriginally Posted by Tyler2106
martin
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08-24-2016, 10:48 AM #814I can do this all day
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In the free Yahoo public league I did as a fancy mock Josh Gordon went 10.09 (99th overall, standard scoring, 3WR). I took him. I wasn't going to but late tenth round as my 6th WR why not eh. That (~100th overall) seems to be roughly at ADP
If I want a reliable RB1 out of those guys I take Lacy. If I want to have fun with it I take my man Ingram.Originally Posted by Tyler2106
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08-24-2016, 10:54 AM #815Registered User
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McCoyOriginally Posted by Tyler2106
Ingram
Lacy
Martin
Freeman
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08-24-2016, 12:14 PM #816Misc MD 2017
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Originally Posted by yuja
My thoughts? If I end up drafting Brady I'm grabbing Gordon, and vice-versa. My thought is if I'm banking on the second half of my season I might as well get after it.S&P || Orlando Magic
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08-24-2016, 12:59 PM #817Registered User
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take bell while you're at itOriginally Posted by efoi
but you can minimilize risk drafting Brady by taking Carr/Stafford later. They both have very easy schedules to start and should be serviceable until he comes back
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Ingram is by far the safest. He may have the lowest ceiling though.Originally Posted by dhawkeye1980
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08-24-2016, 01:11 PM #819Registered User
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he's not exciting for sure but you know if they're in the RZ he's punching it in 80% of the timeOriginally Posted by thefullmonte
started catching more passes last season too
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08-24-2016, 01:14 PM #820Registered User
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Drafting Bell and Brady would be a legit combo. Come championship time, those are the guys that will win you the ship. If I had early second round pick, I wouldn't hesitate taking Bell. He is one of the best backs in the league.Originally Posted by yuja
take bell while you're at it
but you can minimilize risk drafting Brady by taking Carr/Stafford later. They both have very easy schedules to start and should be serviceable until he comes backNew England Patriot
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08-24-2016, 01:15 PM #821I-O-W-A
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The Freeman hate has gone too far too.Originally Posted by yuja
He's going back to catch 60 passes and gets the touches in the red zone.
He won't bust....even if he doesn't come close to what he did last yearMFC
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08-24-2016, 01:28 PM #822Registered Operator
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Thats what I keep reading about. Everyone has a feeling that he wont be the guy this year, but what evidence is there to show for that? Its just feeeeeeeelings. I dunno. Its started to creep on me too but I cant really explain it. Thsoe feeeeeelings could also go to a guy like DMT - but he's being taken as a WR1 with a completely new offensive scheme and we dont even know who his qb will be. I think thats kinda unfair, also - considering something like 80/1200/8 is the guys average - and that includes Tebow throwing to him. If ever I had a bad feel about a player it was Anderson last year, and I think he's way overdrafted this year so I'm not immune to it.Originally Posted by Jayarbie
Yeah, his 4 game stretch was amazing and unsustainable, but look at the other games. Like I said, only 3 weeks of less than 10 points. Thats stupid consistent. Of course he'll regress - and he can afford to do so at more than his ADP.
Going with your gut is important, but never before have I seen so many people trusting their gut in a negative way with so little evidence for it. To the contrary, you've got plenty of guys that people have feeeeeeelings of upside with no proof at all. People act like Freeman only played in those 4 games.
I'm not a Gordon believer, but look at it this way: who else can you draft in the 8th round that has the potential to finish as a top 5 WR?Originally Posted by yuja
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08-24-2016, 01:36 PM #823Registered User
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thing is all these other backs listed with Freeman have the potential to do what he does, but they don't have another back breathing down their neck (Sims maybe for Martin)Originally Posted by thefullmonte
I wouldn't mind having Freeman on my squad, but I do think Coleman will get more involved this year. Falcons offense as a whole should do better this year and Coleman could very well fumble/get injured and all of a sudden Freeman is the lone dog again
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08-24-2016, 01:41 PM #824Registered User
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IF bell isn't injured by then hahaOriginally Posted by Tyler2106
I feel like drafting DeAngelo is a MUST if you're taking Bell. Overpay if needed, but having that security lowers your risk
Brady is GOAT, nuff said
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i think drafting deangelo is a must in general. bell or not. get a guy you can start for 3 weeks and then stash or trade afterward. he's a legit RB1 whenever he starts and you're getting him cheap.Originally Posted by yuja
you figure 3-4 weeks into the season somebody will be hurt by then. you have time to replace him. or trade him to the guy who has bell.
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08-24-2016, 01:45 PM #826Registered User
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sorry I meant if you own Bell you're taking DeAngelo a couple rounds early to make sure he doesn't get snagged before you can handcuff him to Bell.Originally Posted by Murph0408
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08-24-2016, 03:37 PM #827Registered Operator
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Im picking 11/12 and theres a good change Bell is there after the turn. How do you NOT take him? I'm hoping that Miller or AP falls to me at 11. Possible as I KNOW a potato or two will take a QB in the first round. Happens every year.
I just hate that I have to invest a 6th round pick to get Dwill. I mean, at what point does a second round pick + a mid round pick = the 1 he would have been taken at? Seems like a lot of draft capital, but then again Bell is Bell
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08-24-2016, 03:43 PM #828Registered User
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Let's not act like Freeman is some kind of special player here. He really isn't. He was setup in a great position last year and took advantage of it.Originally Posted by thefullmonte
Colemans talent level > Freemans"Steven Curry is a mouth guard chewing piece of chit" - Gandhi
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08-24-2016, 03:53 PM #829Registered Operator
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Lets be real tea. In fantasy opportunity >>>> talent. I dont see a huge talent gap there. They were graded about the same coming out of college and have similar measurables.Originally Posted by HughBMyron
Why would the team take a guy that they leaned on heavily last year with great success, and all of a sudden put him in a worse situation? He's also great in pass protection, so he's in on third and long situations as well as early downs. I'd bet that if Freeman played those four games and got hurt, he'd be a first rounder this year. However, he goes on to put up a great statline overall throughout the rest of the season and people doubt his consistency.
I guess I've just never been sold on Coleman, maybe thats why the anti-freeman hysteria doesnt make sense to me.
We'll see how it shakes out soon, but I'm willing to bet Freeman finishes better in relation to his adp than coleman. A 9th round flier is a low cost insurance, policy though.
Heres a question: say you take Freeman, do you reach on coleman?
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Doug Martin was top RB one season and then people were down on him for his next year because of consistency and big games propping up the total. It didn't work out if you took Doug.
Being great the season before, for all kinds of reasons, obviously doesn't mean all that much a lot of the time
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No i don't think he is a good handcuff imo. Specially with his ADP. If you take freeman you roll the dice on freeman.Originally Posted by chevy72blu
I said earlier in the thread i expect to see a 60/40 split in carries come later in hte season (about half way mark) i follow the falcons closely and Quinn/Shanahan love colemans ability to make plays. He does however have a fumbling issue.
Now that they added Sanu, hardy is in his 2nd year id expect Freemans catch total to decrease."Steven Curry is a mouth guard chewing piece of chit" - Gandhi
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08-24-2016, 04:04 PM #832Registered User
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8th round rolls around who do you guys take?
Parker
Shepard
White
Desean
Crabtree"Steven Curry is a mouth guard chewing piece of chit" - Gandhi
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08-24-2016, 04:06 PM #833i like white this year tbh or djaxOriginally Posted by HughBMyron
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where's josh gordon?Originally Posted by HughBMyron
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Going in the 6th on FFCADP (lol if you use Experts ADP)Originally Posted by yuja
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That year Dougie Fresh got 1/3 of his fantasy points from 2 games.Originally Posted by Farley1324
If you ignore Freeman's two highest scoring weeks, he finishes with 246 fantasy points in PPR last year - at 15.375 points per game (assuming he gets zero points during the two weeks we arent counting his score).
He still outscores every RB in the league except for AP (by 2 points). As for the consistency? Again, only 3 weeks of <10 fps
Inb4 I dont end up with freeman in any of my leagues. Not even that high on him like I said, but the hysteria isn't based in facts.
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No he didn't lolOriginally Posted by chevy72blu
That year you could totally and arbitrarily throw out the top and bottom two games of every RB and he was still I think top 5 but definitely top 10
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08-24-2016, 04:26 PM #839Registered Operator
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Originally Posted by Farley1324
http://www.espn.com/fantasy/football...-monster-gamesBig play overreliance: Last year, Martin scored one-third of his fantasy points in two games: Week 8 against the Minnesota Vikings and Week 9 against the Oakland Raiders.
I didnt fact check Chris Harris. Is he wrong?
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It's close, but <1/3. Let's take a wider look at this. I doug up my old post. This is for Martin's rookie season of course. I see no reason whatsoever, and never did, to just randomly and arbitrarily throw away two weeks in which a single player basically guaranteed you a win. But let's say that we do that.
Originally Posted by Farley1324
Doug Martin still RB5 in standard scoring even if you totally ignore the two weeks he won the match up for you by himself.
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