Was Kai anywhere near his best in the latter half of the Arnold? (pics)

[dominicgurham]

His physique was undoubtedly sub-optimal in the pre-judging... but how do you think he looked at the night-showing relative to prior competitions? Do you think he was anywhere near his best? How do you think he compared to, say, the 2012 Mr Olympia or the 2010 Arnold Classic?

[Nep2une]

Those particular pictures aren't the best quality obviously but I will say this. Anytime Kai Greene d oesn't have a film of water over his abs, he is near his best ever.

[BartPimpson]

Real talk: if Kai was near his best, Cedric couldn't have been four points away from winning.

[Iceman1981]

He looked even better at the Finals than he did at the prejudging, but his gut was still hanging out in many poses. It seems like as he just doesn't care about the protruding gut or he just can't hold it in.

[JohnTA71]

am i the only one that thought cedric shouldve been first? he had like no waist

[Nep2une]

Real talk: if Kai was near his best, Cedric couldn't have been four points away from winning.

You said in a different thread that Cedric was or was just about at his all-time best and I agree with you.

Most people believe that Cedric at his all-time best could beat just about anyone, some people taking it further.

I disagree but what I do recognize is that Kai beating Cedric at his best speaks highly of Kai as opposed to a blemish on his track record.

This example is a bit of an exaggeration but this is how I see it in my opinion. I feel it's in the ballpark of if Kai beat a "on" Ramy. Kai's position as #1 contender wasn't threatened as much as Kai showing he could take on Cedric's potential.

[TheIronAsylum]

he was flat at prejudging and filled up for the later show and looked his normal freaky self


also that 3rd pic in op is sick as fuark

[weltweitefurcht]

On the HD video from andro, he looks crazy.

[Kiwi_]

good that Ced's bicep tear isn't holding him back

[Milone79]

Kai was noticeably flat in the prejudging and looked a little rusty with his posing/confidence etc...however he filled out and peaked perfectly for the finals...I say he was at his all time best...his "gut" was in check and never let it out during transitions etc. or while hitting poses...I was watching and he really was working his ass off to hold it under control even flexing the abs during a few poses where normally does not...;-) I say this was the best Kai yet hands down!! The dry grainy separated muscle was better than anyone else's on stage..

[JohnSmeton]

id personally rather have a longer, leaner looking physique, of course your going to have muscle, its bodybuilding , so i ask , who would you rather look like physique wise?

and that most likely is who you will pick as your winner

[Canuck77]

Kai was noticeably flat in the prejudging and looked a little rusty with his posing/confidence etc...however he filled out and peaked perfectly for the finals...I say he was at his all time best...his "gut" was in check and never let it out during transitions etc. or while hitting poses...I was watching and he really was working his ass off to hold it under control even flexing the abs during a few poses where normally does not...;-) I say this was the best Kai yet hands down!! The dry grainy separated muscle was better than anyone else's on stage..

I agree. He looked unreal in the finals. I think he was at or at least up there with his best showing ever.

The way he controlled his muscles and the detail in that posing routine was unreal. Up there with his '09 Dirty Diana.

Make sure you have it on HD / 1080p

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[JohnTA71]

So ill bring up the next question for debate then. Do we think that Arnold 2016 Kai could have beat Olympia 2015 Phil Heath?

[Unbiasedfan]

So ill bring up the next question for debate then. Do we think that Arnold 2016 Kai could have beat Olympia 2015 Phil Heath?

No.

[ROMMYromboid]

Real talk: if Kai was near his best, Cedric couldn't have been four points away from winning.

Kai was noticeably flat in the prejudging and looked a little rusty with his posing/confidence etc...however he filled out and peaked perfectly for the finals...I say he was at his all time best...his "gut" was in check and never let it out during transitions etc. or while hitting poses...I was watching and he really was working his ass off to hold it under control even flexing the abs during a few poses where normally does not...;-) I say this was the best Kai yet hands down!! The dry grainy separated muscle was better than anyone else's on stage..

THIS, lucky for Heath he did not enter the show, he would 100% have lost to Kai.

Great that Kai is now the current World#1 and Cedric world #2.

A very well judged show, the Olympia can learn from the AC.

[ROMMYromboid]

No.

Yes.

[Unbiasedfan]

Yes.

So, you complain about the O judging but you still believe kai would beat heath in 2015?

Kai didn't beat heath at his absolute worst, in 2014. Therefore, he obviously wouldn't beat an improved heath.

[Canuck77]

THIS, lucky for Heath he did not enter the show, he would 100% have lost to Kai.

Great that Kai is now the current World#1 and Cedric world #2.

A very well judged show, the Olympia can learn from the AC.

I agree 100%. Hopefully this movement catches on at the O.

[Misctake7]

So, you complain about the O judging but you still believe kai would beat heath in 2015?

Kai didn't beat heath at his absolute worst, in 2014. Therefore, he obviously wouldn't beat an improved heath.

You have logic and sense in your post. Rommy won't understand.

[Kenny Redd]

id personally rather have a longer, leaner looking physique, of course your going to have muscle, its bodybuilding , so i ask , who would you rather look like physique wise?

and that most likely is who you will pick as your winner

Taller and swole ahould win.

[BartPimpson]

On the HD video from andro, he looks crazy.

Yeah, I've seen enough. Cedric won the show.

Maybe Kai's legs look a little thicker in the side poses. Whoopie.

[Kiwi_]

Cedric should've won because aesthetics

[purdey]

So, you complain about the O judging but you still believe kai would beat heath in 2015?

Kai didn't beat heath at his absolute worst, in 2014. Therefore, he obviously wouldn't beat an improved heath.

I think he means if the O was judged fairly

#TEAMFAIRJUDGING

[Unbiasedfan]

I think he means if the O was judged fairly

#TEAMFAIRJUDGING

lol its hard and close enough to judge them side by side in the same show, nevermind in different ones.

[GearHound]

damb all these hd vids making me rethink the AC. at first i thought it couldve gone either way and I was kind of let down ced didnt win; but rewatching the vids kai just looked so fkn freaky in the finals

[brendanh32]

So ill bring up the next question for debate then. Do we think that Arnold 2016 Kai could have beat Olympia 2015 Phil Heath?

Not a chance.

[Skallfraktur]

Imo Kai's FDB is a thing of absolute beauty. I think his midsection is looking more and more like it did back in the days. His waist is wide but I wouldn't go as a far as saying he's got a distended gut. Sure, in poses where he flexes his lumbar region a lot it protrudes, but whose doesn't. Imo he looked amazing at the Arnold, Cedric too though.

[wolfsburg2]

Yeah, I've seen enough. Cedric won the show.

Maybe Kai's legs look a little thicker in the side poses. Whoopie.

Those low lat insertions on kai
the arms specifically the detail on kais arms is just crazy. the glutes and legs are so much bugger and more defined than cedric too.

I'm guessing you never like Jay cutler's physique either.

[Canuck77]