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    Semi sumo

    It's paused and yes my back rounded but how is it?
    https://youtu.be/QZqbqLNsnl4
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    Originally Posted by Rcross1989 View Post
    It's paused and yes my back rounded but how is it?
    https://youtu.be/QZqbqLNsnl4
    Looks fine, but:

    1) WTF are you doing right after breaking off the floor? Looks like a good way to pull a muscle, esp. with the rounded back you noted.
    2) You hyperextend lumbar spine at lockout--just clench glutes and stick out chest and you're fine.
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    If you pause. (and its an excellent lift variation right from the floor) Pause with a properly braced lower back! none of that cat back bs.

    Upper back is less of an issue safety wise, infact for some it helps them break the floor (see: eddy coan) but it can be detrimental to your lockout. And as for the lockout, the rounded upper back could be the reason why you feel you have to hyper extend to make lockout, as you are having trouble bringing your chest through and are compensating...

    Excess lumbar extension isnt gonna be good for most people in the long term, especially combined with pulling rounded from the start.
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    Originally Posted by MyEgoProblem View Post
    If you pause. (and its an excellent lift variation right from the floor) Pause with a properly braced lower back! none of that cat back bs.
    AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH... didn't realize the pause was intentional. Now I have research to do, as I'm much stronger at lockout than off the floor.

    I would imagine a longer pause, with a properly braced back might work better.
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    Yeah I can't help but round my back I do it unintentionally but other then my rounded back how is hip position etc etc.
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    Originally Posted by abendm View Post
    I'm much stronger at lockout than off the floor.
    Are you talking about conventional or sumo?
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    Originally Posted by Rcross1989 View Post
    Yeah I can't help but round my back I do it unintentionally but other then my rounded back how is hip position etc etc.
    You can help it, take off the weight of the bar, do some Romanian deads and hyperextensions. You pulling with your back, very little leg drive, hams and glutes are not firing correctly.
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    Well how do I fire them correctly?
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    Originally Posted by Rcross1989 View Post
    Well how do I fire them correctly?
    Could do activation exercises: weighted bridges, cable pull-throughs, etc. Romanians are also a rly good idea.

    Originally Posted by -Lucifer View Post
    Are you talking about conventional or sumo?
    Mainly conventional--too little quad activation since I lift with fairly high hips. I've been doing snatch grip conventional lately for slightly larger ROM and lower starting position. I've also been doing some speed work.
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    Originally Posted by Rcross1989 View Post
    Well how do I fire them correctly?
    Read this, it might be a bit helpful for your deadlift:
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...post1426202301

    Simple butt squeezes for 5 sec at a time, then, cable pull-throughs, then, hyperextension, then, Romanian deadlifts. In that order of complexity. You have to feel your glutes and hams stretch before you spring back up via contraction of the glutes, keeping your back straight. It is possible your glutes are weak, in which case some direct work described above with resistance will help you immensely on your deads. As in stands, from your video, that seems to be the most glaring issue and it probably holding you back from a bigger dead.
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