Spring Cutters Crew Vol 35: Fuk Hunger(and Winter), We're Freaks!

[Dan_Staat]

Word. As a general rule, you can't do much with less than 12 weeks. He's not going to look good until it's almost fall at this point.

At this point I would just try to shed some water weight and not eat like a hog

depends on how lean you are. If you're 12%, 12 weeks can be plenty of time to get pool ready

[WeedWizard420]

Word. As a general rule, you can't do much with less than 12 weeks. He's not going to look good until it's almost fall at this point.

At this point I would just try to shed some water weight and not eat like a hog

Already lost 7 lbs of post bulk water weight last week. Rapid Fat Loss diet + high T + dnp will make 20 lbs of only fat easy in 2 months.

[Elvis.Costello]

Lol no such thing as too late with dnp.

PB that you *******?

[Dan_Staat]

PB that you *******?

One of the best trolls.


I wasn't around to witness RJC, but i went through the old threads and had an awesome LOL

[Kraken]

Already lost 7 lbs of post bulk water weight last week. Rapid Fat Loss diet + high T + dnp will make 20 lbs of only fat easy in 2 months.

Lol dnp. You got dat der death pill, brah. That weight loss was the life being drained from your body. Besides, dnp is as extreme is you can possibly get with fat loss, and we aren't talking about such risky circumstances

[Gibb1991]

I respect that and I'm not trying to derail the thread .

You're going to get the thread closed. You can't name these things openly. On a side note, taking something that has the potential side effect of blindness or death just because you learned how to use it on reddit doesn't seem like the best idea.

[Dan_Staat]

You're going to get the thread closed. You can't name these things openly. On a side note, taking something that has the potential side effect of blindness or death just because you learned how to use it on reddit doesn't seem like the best idea.

Were freaks bro

[Jestbrah]

doing the same cheat meal third week in a row tonight. Going to see central intelligence alone at the movie and eatery place, gonna get me some chips and salsa again and then a nice big burger and some cookies to wash it down, tastes soooo good

[iifymbro]

depends on how lean you are. If you're 12%, 12 weeks can be plenty of time to get pool ready

tfw you think 12% is pool ready

[atgbrahsrs]

tfw you think 12% is pool ready

for 90 percent of the population that is pool ready worry not

[TugOfPeace]

tfw you think 12% is pool ready

lol. I have to flex under good lighting at 12% just to see an outline of my abs. **** that

[Bonkies]

Dropped to full anorexic stats (50kg at 189cm tall) without a single fukken refeed, just using a regular deficit

Agreed with the talk above tho, if one is constantly craving junk having a refeed say weekly might prevent binges in some people. Personally I'm one fukked up person, haven't felt hunger in almost 2 years now + I don't ever crave anything lol

the fukkkkk

of course you don't need to refeed with a cut like that lol

brb zero muscle left.

[Elvis.Costello]

^^yall just need less fit friends lol. I'm over here crushing XL pizzas and 30 racks every weekend and I'll still be in the best shape when we hit the beach in July by about 6 bf%

[Dan_Staat]

tfw you think 12% is pool ready

It's is until you join bodybuildong.com

[getbustered]

I don't know about summer being over in 12 weeks lol. With this global warming or whatever it seems like the last few years it's been summer until October. I have a fantasy football draft every labor day weekend and last year before it started we were in my pool drinking all day because it was 101 degrees. So I say better late than never and get on it.

[Kraken]

Everyone is a nut expert. WTF did I just read? Felt like I was back in the 90s weight lifting era again

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=170629631

[Dan_Staat]

Everyone is a nut expert. WTF did I just read? Felt like I was back in the 90s weight lifting era again

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=170629631

Absolutely guy with that avi shouldn't be making a guide to optimizing anything tbh.

[BabyOilBrah]

Absolutely guy with that avi shouldn't be making a guide to optimizing anything tbh.

Amazing avi

[Dan_Staat]

Amazing avi

I don't write guides bb


I tried to upload an avi, but my body space is "inactive"(?) And won't let me.

Anyone know about this tho?

[Bonkies]

Everyone is a nut expert. WTF did I just read? Felt like I was back in the 90s weight lifting era again

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=170629631

ehhh pretty accurate about some stuff

basic diagram here explains most of his chit



MTor signalling pathway stimulates protein synthesis in muscle

gets stimulated by growth factors from muscle contractions when you lift.

Eating leucine alone can stimulate mtor itself without lifting

lifting + leucine = maximizing protein synthesis.

spacing out leucine intake throughout the day = more protein synthesis than degradation = more growth.


- exercise physiologist major

[fishnbrah]

wtf am i reading

[midcoastking33]

So if I'm eating 1600 calories for example, with 150g of carbs in there, my refeed day would be 1600 calories with 350g of carbs to replenish glycogen.

that's not a refeed chief

[atgbrahsrs]

ehhh pretty accurate about some stuff

basic diagram here explains most of his chit



MTor signalling pathway stimulates protein synthesis in muscle

gets stimulated by growth factors from muscle contractions when you lift.

Eating leucine alone can stimulate mtor itself without lifting

lifting + leucine = maximizing protein synthesis.

spacing out leucine intake throughout the day = more protein synthesis than degradation = more growth.


- exercise physiologist major

yeah this has been backed by reserach to a point

but I am do/eat whatever/whenever the **** I wanna do



and I think that is a girl

[Dan_Staat]

that's not a refeed chief

This.

If your maintenance is 2500 calories, you'd eat somewhere between 2500-3000 calories depending on how comfortable you are with going into a surplus I suppose.

Moderate protein - if you're eating 150g/day, drop to 100g

Low fat - 20-40g will be fine. Trace sources of fat are in nearly anything, so you'll end up with some.

Max them carbs son. Most coming from complex sources. Minimize the fructose. It has something to do with the liver IIRC but I can't remember quite why fructose isn't very efficient at filling glycogen stores.

The UD2.0 book gave a more detailed response, but that's a basic outline

Granted, the UD2 refeed is extreme because you're completely depleted of glycogen. Unless you've had 0 carbs for some time, you're not devoid of glycogen.

wtf am i reading

Idk man its science

[RAWhe]

anybody works labor/construction or a highly active job? what do your calories look like? I definitely have to go above the 1800-1900 range I used to be at to cut.

[TugOfPeace]

that's not a refeed chief

my bad, meant carb up. either way, helps me out and doesn't hinder progress as compared to refeeds turned cheat days

[Dan_Staat]

and I think that is a girl

That explains the leg shape/lack of hair.

It's a good guide with some good info, but lol @ nitpicking that hard as a natural.

May as well lift for 10 years, eat well and make gains vs go insane with meal timing and be a lunatic because you missed the 30 minute anabolic window

[midcoastking33]

my bad, meant carb up. either way, helps me out and doesn't hinder progress as compared to refeeds turned cheat days

das it

[Dan_Staat]

anybody works labor/construction or a highly active job? what do your calories look like? I definitely have to go above the 1800-1900 range I used to be at to cut.

Sup. At 182lbs my weight has stalled at 3300 calories. Which is sweet because all I'll have to do is poop to compete at 181.

[TugOfPeace]

das it

now that I think about it, got a question:

I've been on a normal diet (moderate carbs) for a long time recently tried lifting 6x a week with post workout cardio, but I ended up needing to refeed every 3rd-4th day (I couldn't handle the hunger or even finish my cardio.. was weak). It ended up hindering progress.

So what I started now is lifting 3-4x a week with cardio only on off days in hopes of not needing to carb up/refeed as often. However, if I do feel the need, would a carb up at my cutting calories be better as compared to a refeed perhaps 500 calories over my cutting calories?

And for what I was doing before, is that just considered not enough calories for the activity level, was it overtraining, or was it glycogen depletion?