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    Originally Posted by Jasonk282 View Post
    lol...just because someone didn't agree with you means they're not being fair? Life ain't fair princess.

    What worked for YOU might not work for others.

    There's more than one way to lose weight.

    High carb, low carb, high fat, low fat all work.. If you're in a calorie deficit. You seem to really have a hard time understanding that.
    I never said that keto is the only way. I have clearly stated it is my opinion that keto is best. You guys can rep jerk each other I'm done with this thread and the fools in it.

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    Originally Posted by Joesywhales View Post
    If many people have had a great experience from low carb diets how is it not superior to high carb diets?
    Because, conversely, many people have a great experience from non low carb diets as well. Are you seriously this dense ?
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    Originally Posted by Joesywhales View Post
    If many people have had a great experience from low carb diets how is it not superior to high carb diets?

    Pretty sure low bodybuilders eat super low carbs to cut. I know Arnold and other big names did.

    I'd personally rather take his advice then some kid in a lab coat who has never stepped a foot in the gym
    Wow, education has really failed you, hasn't it?
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    Originally Posted by Joesywhales View Post
    I never said that keto is the only way. I have clearly stated it is my opinion that keto is best. You guys can rep jerk each other I'm done with this thread and the fools in it.

    listen, ultimately why cut/lift/argue









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    Joesywhales

    Are you for real? Like are you trolling everyone right now or are you really new to all of this?
    Great, you lose weight in a caloric deficit. everyone can.
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    Originally Posted by Joesywhales View Post
    I never said that keto is the only way. I have clearly stated it is my opinion that keto is best. You guys can rep jerk each other I'm done with this thread and the fools in it.
    Ill hold you to that, here is a parting gift, next one will be a removal.
    Eat the damn yolk.

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    Well that was entertaining to read lol

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    Originally Posted by allrnder View Post
    Great, you lose weight in a caloric deficit. everyone can.
    Yeah, but if he can find three buddies that did it the same way as he did, he can draw conclusions no scientist with a well-designed study ever could.

    The poor guy started with around 300 rep points, too.
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    Man, what the heck happened in this thread???
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    Originally Posted by MrM27 View Post
    Man, what the heck happened in this thread???
    Jacked potato was in here.
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    Originally Posted by Joesywhales View Post
    Check out the weight loss on my bodyspace. I did that in two months on 20g of carbs or less. It works bruh

    Your conclusion is wrong if you conclude that a low CHO diet = weight loss. A caloric deficit regardless of the macronutrient composure will result in weight loss.

    Joesy, your post are getting more and more delusional as time goes on. You may not notice it now or ever but one day hopefully you will see the overwhelming effect conformation bias is having on you. When you are doing your research on any given topic nutrition and weight lifting for example and you find an answer that you like or want to hear, you must research the criticisms of these claims and give them equal respect with the most objective thinking you are capable of. Unfortunately for you, you lack this critical step (proper skepticism) in most everything you do. You wonder why people are acting hostile towards you in person (thread you made), and your assumption IIRC is that they are "jealous" and "hating" for non rational reasons when it fact, what you perceive as yourself being "confident" is actually stage 5 arrogance.
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    Originally Posted by Partyrocking View Post
    Allrnder asked for research not your brotastic nonsense.
    If the diet worked for him, and he presented what he did, would it be his research or brostatic nonsense?

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    Heres what we need. A study that is not in a lab, where somebody eats a LCHF diet at maintenance calories or slightly above and keep a log of it here on bb.com nutrition forum and see the real world results. not a lab where we dont know exactly whats going on.

    It would have to be somebody with integrity, is not pro LCHF or Pro whatever else, someone with a lot of time to detail every single thing! Someone who has a decent amount of fat to lose. someone like......ME. Id be willing to do it if people wold follow along or if its even something people would be interested to follow...if not, please ignore this post

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    Originally Posted by psalms1441 View Post
    Heres what we need. A study that is not in a lab, where somebody eats a LCHF diet at maintenance calories or slightly above and keep a log of it here on bb.com nutrition forum and see the real world results. not a lab where we dont know exactly whats going on.

    It would have to be somebody with integrity, is not pro LCHF or Pro whatever else, someone with a lot of time to detail every single thing! Someone who has a decent amount of fat to lose. someone like......ME. Id be willing to do it if people wold follow along or if its even something people would be interested to follow...if not, please ignore this post
    A study not done in a lab? does this include a metabolic ward?

    Otherwise there is so much room for error with lack of control it is not funny.
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    Originally Posted by allrnder View Post
    A study not done in a lab? does this include a metabolic ward?

    Otherwise there is so much room for error with lack of control it is not funny.
    no Im just talking about a LCHF diet at maintenance or slightly above, where everything is logged, from what you eat to exercise, just to see if REAL weight loss occurs, not water weight. Just go by what the pictures and bodyfat test says. I can be VERY OCD about tracking stuff lol I understand where OP is coming from I really do because I use to feel the same way

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    Originally Posted by psalms1441 View Post
    Heres what we need. A study that is not in a lab, where somebody eats a LCHF diet at maintenance calories or slightly above and keep a log of it here on bb.com nutrition forum and see the real world results. not a lab where we dont know exactly whats going on.

    It would have to be somebody with integrity, is not pro LCHF or Pro whatever else, someone with a lot of time to detail every single thing! Someone who has a decent amount of fat to lose. someone like......ME. Id be willing to do it if people wold follow along or if its even something people would be interested to follow...if not, please ignore this post
    You realize that this would not say anything about whether a low carb diet is better than a high carb one, right?
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    Originally Posted by EmperorRyker View Post
    You realize that this would not say anything about whether a low carb diet is better than a high carb one, right?
    yeah I realize this, I would just be interested to see if you can lose bodyfat on LCHF diet eating at maintenance or slightly above, that would be the whole point of the log. Its obvious at this point that the best diet is the one you can stick with

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